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    I can't see your picture (at work - and it's blocked) but I personally have been wanting recycled glass counters for ages. It's another option to check out that I haven't seen mentioned yet. Lots of different colors to choose from!



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    I would go in a completely different direction that what you probably want...

    Retro! I love all the pine. Rather than go for a confused look, or even a successful eclectic look, I would go for a forties/fifties look with laminate, such as Formica, in a retro pattern. Someone mentioned broken dishes, which you would not have with laminate. It deals well with water, not so much super hot stuff, and it's easy to keep clean. Ultimately, it comes down to the look you want to achieve more than function.

    But me, I'd go with Formica on the counters and Linoleum floors (unless you have wood -- I can't tell from the photo), keep the stainless steel sink, get a stainless panel for the front of the dishwashwer, and keep your eyes peeled for a vintage-looking refrigerator or go with stainless steel. A few additional judicious touches of chrome or stainless steel would be great, and then add color. I really like the clubby, nostalgic, yet upscale feel of places like King's Fish House and Tap's Restaurant.

    Love Houzz! There's a lot of repetition in these pages, but some inspiring ideas, which may or may not use laminite counters:
    http://www.houzz.com/retro-forties

    Some Fifties decorating history:
    http://www.retroplanet.com/blog/retr...orating-style/

    Formica ideas:
    http://pinterest.com/formicagroup/pins/?filter=likes
    http://www.pastense.com/surfaces.html

    And a more rustic direction to go -- think Ralph Lauren Summer Cabin:
    http://pinterest.com/janshoco/adirondack-style/

    Or maybe think of the feeling (at least I get that nostalgic feeling, do you?) of a Maxwell House Coffee ad (or was it Folger's?) with the cabin on the lake:
    http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/2f/a6/afc5_35.JPG
    http://www.thisnext.com/store/F68F75...urnest/kitchen
    http://bringingdesignhome.com/2011/1...n-by-the-lake/

    This search gives a lot of fun ideas, but doesn't help narrow down the counter top decision because so many different counters look great:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=adiro...w=1173&bih=554

    I am having way too much fun with this. Good luck!



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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyPie View Post
    I would go in a completely different direction that what you probably want...

    Retro! I love all the pine. Rather than go for a confused look, or even a successful eclectic look, I would go for a forties/fifties look with laminate, such as Formica, in a retro pattern. Someone mentioned broken dishes, which you would not have with laminate. It deals well with water, not so much super hot stuff, and it's easy to keep clean. Ultimately, it comes down to the look you want to achieve more than function.

    But me, I'd go with Formica on the counters and Linoleum floors (unless you have wood -- I can't tell from the photo), keep the stainless steel sink, get a stainless panel for the front of the dishwashwer, and keep your eyes peeled for a vintage-looking refrigerator or go with stainless steel. A few additional judicious touches of chrome or stainless steel would be great, and then add color. I really like the clubby, nostalgic, yet upscale feel of places like King's Fish House and Tap's Restaurant.

    Love Houzz! There's a lot of repetition in these pages, but some inspiring ideas, which may or may not use laminite counters:
    http://www.houzz.com/retro-forties

    Some Fifties decorating history:
    http://www.retroplanet.com/blog/retr...orating-style/

    Formica ideas:
    http://pinterest.com/formicagroup/pins/?filter=likes
    http://www.pastense.com/surfaces.html

    And a more rustic direction to go -- think Ralph Lauren Summer Cabin:
    http://pinterest.com/janshoco/adirondack-style/

    Or maybe think of the feeling (at least I get that nostalgic feeling, do you?) of a Maxwell House Coffee ad (or was it Folger's?) with the cabin on the lake:
    http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/2f/a6/afc5_35.JPG
    http://www.thisnext.com/store/F68F75...urnest/kitchen
    http://bringingdesignhome.com/2011/1...n-by-the-lake/

    This search gives a lot of fun ideas, but doesn't help narrow down the counter top decision because so many different counters look great:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=adiro...w=1173&bih=554

    I am having way too much fun with this. Good luck!
    If you are not going to modernize, if the tile is clean and sound, it looks very nice, no need to change it.
    I would take those low cabinets out, that alone will make the space brighter and larger, not darker and closed in as now.
    At least I would start there and then re-evaluate, see what it all looks without them.



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    I would definitely revisit the light fixture (can you lose the fan?) and evaluate your use of the butcher block island. Because you have so much wood, I would put a light-colored marble, quartz or composite on your island, different than the countertops. This is assuming you don't use it all the time and need it to be wood.

    I love the feel of this kitchen, although your wood cabinets would bring a different color palette:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VZFsgIXRCI...arahshouse.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6ChHhJxoAe...se-kitchen.jpg

    This reminds me a little of your kitchen with marble counters:
    http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...ink-marble.jpg



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    I discovered that thebig boxstores now chargefor laminate by the linear foot, and for installation too. They used to charge one price for both.

    Whatever you do definitely price it around. For less than what I would have paid for laminate, plus a laminate backsplash, including installation I actually got quartz, installation, undermount sink (a really deep double one, it's standard with my installer), plus the backsplash tile, and installation. And granite and others come cheaper from the installer, or the countertop company. You can also do a retro looking back splash with 4" x 4" matte (I perfer matte to shiny) backsplash tile yourself, and either do a squared pattern, or a subway tile pattern and save a lot too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Tile is not near as clean as any other large solid surface and will not be an asset if you sell later.

    Try to see what all is out there that is better today, all kinds of concrete, steel, man made and of course from granites on.

    Natural rock will always be an asset and it can be made to fit most anything.
    Today the cost is even cheaper than tile for most standard, not fancy granite and they will measure and make it fit right.

    Reconsider it.
    I was adamant that I wanted tile nine years ago and the builder insisted and insisted and I finally gave in and am very happy with the granite he put on the kitchen counters.
    It makes the plain farm house kitchen stand out nicely.


    Ohhhhh you can make such nice counter tops with concrete!
    I got a book from the library once, slap full with marvelous ideas!

    but you can also have those correlan or whatever composite counter tops made. They do look like stone, are solid, so you can 'fix' some scuffs by sanding, but they are not as expensive as granit.
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    concrete done to look like natural stone such as http://www.houzz.com/photos/1301786/...kitchen-dallas and http://www.houzz.com/photos/109208/B...chen-san-diego

    Concrete can be any color or appearance you want it to be. Just make sure whoever puts it in knows what they are doing. If it was my kitchen, other things I would do is also strip the stain off your cabinets and restain or bleach to make them lighter. I love the style of them though, so keep all the hinges and pulls. Mount the upper cabinets higher though (if there's room, hopefully all the way to the ceiling). I'd removed the upper cabinets above the stove and put a nice vent in. I'd sand the floor and stain it medium to dark. Put in a nice natural stone backsplash like http://www.houzz.com/photos/574277/K...n-other-metros The butcherblock would be stripped sanded and resealed.

    other ideas could be found here: http://www.houzz.com/photos/kitchen/log-cabin-



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    Think hard how dark you want the floors.
    Anyone I know with the darker ones is very, very sorry they went there.
    While very light colors may show some dirt, medium less, darker ones show all the dirt.
    You can just have cleaned and walking across will leave light footprints.
    Dark colors never quite look clean, if you walk on them.

    We had dark red SW tiles in our floors in the old house and I know, you can't keep those clean more than a few minutes after working hard at it.
    A friend went stained concrete for the floors in her house and is going to tile them over as soon as she can, they are a nightmare, especially when she entertains and all are walking around and the floor shows every step taken in a nice, light contrast to the dark.



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    Ya, don't go with dark floors, especially in that space. Too dark already. You need bright and open and light to make that space feel airy. Dark shows everything, and when telling her to stain her floor, you have to remember that the floor that we are seeing is only ONE ROOM in the house. I am assuming the hardwood is running throughout far more space than the kitchen. You have to think globally.

    There are a few simple, inexpensive updates that can be done without changing too much and without blowing the wad on a full reno.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimon View Post
    I can't see your picture (at work - and it's blocked) but I personally have been wanting recycled glass counters for ages. It's another option to check out that I haven't seen mentioned yet. Lots of different colors to choose from!
    They're very pretty but I haven't seen any that were less expensive than granite.

    I just did countertops, and granite was the most cost-effective. They have prefab sections that can be extremely economical if the color and the dimensions work for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsmoak View Post
    Thanks for the link Jazzy Lady. When people kept saying concrete countertops I admit I was thinking garage floor grey... but that looks like fun!

    We can practice on the master bath which has a couple of small vanities.

    Still have to pick a color though... can you convince concrete to be cream colored or does it all start with grey and go from there?
    9 years ago, when I was checking into concrete, there were several ways to change the color.
    Acid staining was done on floors and at that time all were darker colors.

    I understand today the sky is the limit, the technology has changed so much you can get any color in concrete.

    The disadvantage of any concrete is that it WILL crack, sooner or later.
    There is concrete with cracks and concrete waiting to crack.
    The company mixing the concrete can add fiber to it and that helps, but it will crack sooner or later, so count on that anywhere you use concrete.

    I decided against concrete, but I have seen some beautiful colored concrete floors in malls and Parade of Homes display houses for countertops.
    I am not sure it is a DIY type concrete job.



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    Concrete should not crack if it's done properly. The technology behind countertops has changed, and so have the materials. If it's formed correctly, installed correctly and treated properly, it should last as long as any other material out there. The benefit of using it on a kitchen in an older home, is that any settling that is going to occur with the home has already happened.

    Anything is a DIY job if you know what you are doing, are handy, research it properly and take your time doing it. Concrete countertops aren't difficult if you aren't going for anything crazy. I am a designer and work for a builder and we do lots of them. They look beautiful.

    Granite, Corian, Laminate, Marble, Tile, butcher block, etc, any of them can crack if they aren't maintained, installed and treated properly. Hell, granite is one of the most difficult surfaces to work with. It's so brittle, and when you get into the higher grades which are more dramatic, the veining in them can make them incredibly fragile.

    Whatever you decide, avoid box stores for countertops. They are way higher priced than others out there.



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    I love re-doing rooms.

    I think I'd go with a lighter solid worktop- if you can get hands on with the materials, you'll find one that feels right to you. The tiles seem like they'd be tough to keep clean.

    I'd paint the ceiling white- it's amazing how much something that simple brightens up a space.

    I'd also consider stripping the wood and either leaving it natural (sealed with a clear coat) or maybe even painting it a light colour.
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    my concrete counter tops are 13 years old w/o no sign of cracking.

    I do think they kinda want to stain- you'll wear the protective coating off if you cook, like really cook- and the kitchen countertops will get stained. If you call that character like I do, cool. If you want an ever-new look, I would gently suggest you may not be happy with concrete. JMO



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    We have re-done the butcher block island already (it was *sticky* when we got it, as if it had been varnished and someone used the wrong cleaner on it.)

    The ceiling fan has to stay or I am not cooking in the summer. Grilled chicken gets old after a while, and I can't go that long without baking bread. We did put in a new one with a more modern light fixture. (Those frilly glass things are popular at the town yard sale though, no idea what people are using them for!)

    I'm thrilled with the idea of taking down the cabinets over the stove. I will be able to use a stock pot without banging my hand on the vent hood (which doesn't vent anyway -- if you turn on the fan it blows right in your face.)

    Perish the thought of painting the ceiling! It is tongue and groove pine between the support beams for the upstairs floor. The entire house is wood -- floor, ceiling, walls, all of it.

    The cabinets need an update and I'll definitely think of stripping and re-doing them in a lighter stain. (No way am I replacing them, they are solid wood, even the backs and shelves.) I'm thinking of an antiqued white, like this... http://www.addicted2decorating.com/d...e-of-furniture .

    Maybe I'll practice on one of the doors from the ones we'll be taking down.
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    I'm glad you're sticking with the basic look of the kitchen, because it seems like a shame to change things that are well made.

    Painted cabinets are beautiful, IMO. If you paint yours, don't forget a really pretty look that is being done nowadays with two colors of cabinets. You could paint the upper cabinets and leave the lower cabinets in their original color, for example. Obviously, the paint color would coordinate well with the existing cabinet color.

    To chime in about concrete counters: it is true that they crack. As long as you are aware of that, you can incorporate the cracks as part of the design, even add painted faux cracks. I have concrete counters in my outdoor kitchen and after several years they still look great. There are tiny hairline cracks that are really not noticeable.

    I hope you let us know how it comes out and what you decide to do about your counters. Pictures!



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    Hate, hate, hate, HATE my tile countertops!!!! White with white grout - Are you kidding me?!!! The person who put them in must have never used a kitchen! Crumbs get stuck in them - they crack, stain, mildew - no matter how often you Clorox - things break on them. DO. NOT. USE. TILE!



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    Quote Originally Posted by wsmoak View Post
    What would you do with...
    http://www.pbase.com/wendysmoak/image/119502786
    this kitchen?

    Specifically, the countertops. We're leaning towards tile because we can DIY, plus nothing in the house is exactly square, so ordering one-piece countertops and expecting them to fit would probably be an exercise in frustration.

    But... which tile? What size and what color?

    It is a late 80's log home (there are other pics in that gallery) so nothing ultra-modern please.
    Out of square and not straight are common enough, even in new houses, that it's no problem for fabricators. Heck, it's just day-to-day for them. There are all sorts of fancy tools that even make it easy for them.



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    I redid my kitchen a year and a half ago. It took me awhile to work up the courage to do it, because I painted the counter tops. Took nine coats, starting with a base coat in black Rustoleum countertop paint, then sponge painted the other colors in layers to look like granite, and finished up with three coats of polyurethane. They were an ugly gray laminate that just didn't work with the hickory cupboards. Then I added the backsplash in a coppery bronze...got the tiles at Home Depot, and they are PVC but look like metal. I kept the existing black granite sink but replaced the faucet with a burnt copper faucet.

    The whole project cost me $500, but the kitchen transformation turned out really well.
    Before and after pics here:
    http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/IMG_5141.jpg
    http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/IMG_5144.jpg
    http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/IMG_5147.jpg


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    That really turned out vey nice, awesome remodel.



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