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    Default Horse boarding bill in the NY Senate

    I know the audience for this is small, but there is a bill in the NY Senate to allow boarding barns to not charge sales tax on boarding. From the bill:


    To clarify the Sales Tax Law to specify that
    all services provided by commercial horse boarding operations are
    exempt from sales tax. In 2000, sales tax relief was provided to
    farm-related purchases including commercial horse boarding operations.
    Instruction, training and showing of horses is nontaxable, but
    according to tax regulations, care, custody and control services are
    taxable. Taxable services currently include feeding, watering,
    mucking, grooming, exercising, blanketing, spraying, worming, holding
    for farrier or Vet, administering shots, nursing care, maintenance of
    tack and burial of dead animals. The existing Tax Law is confusing
    and open to interpretation as to what services are or are not taxable
    for horse boarding. Raising of horses is a growing and vital part of
    agriculture in New York State and removing the sales tax from all
    aspects of horse boarding will remove any confusion from the law and
    make New York a more friendly state for the horse business.

    The link to the bill is here:http://m.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S3193-2011

    Not sure how to lobby, but it would probably be a good thing to make a few calls! (It looks like the bill is in the Finance Committee -- if anyone has tips on who to call, I'd love to hear them).



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    I wouldn't call the audience on this small as NY is a large state and I know we have a lot of NYer's on COTH. I just sent this to my trainer whose on the USEA board of Governors.
    Sue
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    Thanks! My hope is that if the word gets out the legislators will hear from more people than they expect.



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    OK, spoke w/the bill's sponsor's office. Here's what NY horsepeople need to do:

    1. Contact your Senator and ask that they support the bill. Also that they contact Senator DeFrancisco, who's head of the Finance Committee and ask that they push him to move the bill out of Committee so the full senate can consider it. Here's a link to find out who your senator is:
    http://www.nysenate.gov/


    2. Contact Senator DeFrancisco yourself and ask that the bill be moved from Committee out to the full Senate. His office phone numbers are 518 455 3511 in Albany, and 315 428-7632 in Syracuse, his district office. Here's a link to a page to send him an email:
    http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/john...ncisco/contact

    Please post to any other horse board, facebook, whatever to get the word out!

    Also, I think a winning argument in these economic times when NY is going to want as much tax revenue as possible is to cast this (which is true!) as something which benefits the small business owner. Small business owners are the engine of our economy so this is something that will help the economy.



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    I just got off the phone w/my local Senator's office. I guess since they are out of session, this bill would have to be reintroduced and go through all the steps again. So, that's the bad news. The good news was that my senator's aid said he'd consider co-sponsoring the bill since he is so pro-agriculture.

    So -- I guess if we all speak up, the bill might get reintroduced and possibly passed in the next session.



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    Any word on if this bill has made any progress? Thanks!


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    Urgh, I just saw this resurrected and wish I'd acted on it before. Would also love to hear any updates--I'm in NY and the tax on my board is ridiculous.
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    I paid tax on board before leasing the horse out. Since 2010. And farrier. Vet. 13%. Very, very uncool.

    Hopefully NY won't do it. It sucks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gumshoe View Post
    I paid tax on board before leasing the horse out. Since 2010. And farrier. Vet. 13%. Very, very uncool.

    Hopefully NY won't do it. It sucks.
    Oh, NY already is charging sales tax on board/farrier/vet/etc. I agree; most uncool. I believe this bill is meant to exempt those services from having to charge tax, but it must still be in hiatus somewhere because I continue to have to pay it...
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    Will contact my senator.



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    Yes, this thread is two years old -- sadly we still are paying sales tax on board etc.

    I doubt the bill is still active, but really don't know what the current situation is.



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    Darn, did not look at the dates.
    I thought we might actually make some progress here for a change.



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    It stinks having to charge it to boarders. Hopefully it will change someday soon



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    Good info here. Just thought I'd share.

    http://www.nyfb.org/img/topic_pdfs/file_ickzuzf3pm.pdf



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