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  1. #1
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    Default Shipping semen from Canada to U.S. ?

    The stallion I am most in love with is in Canada, and I am in KY. Is it easy to ship semen, or do you run into problems with the semen getting held by customs and arriving dead?
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    Almost NEVER! I say almost never because we did have a problem this year with the FDA that should have never happened and caused the semen to arrive a couple of days late...as it was sent as a Saturday shipment. But this was a one time thing. We've never had a problem with customs!

    Other than that, over the last six years or so, we ship semen all the time to the U.S. and never have problems with Fed-Ex. Fed-Ex ships A LOT of semen and they know the routine and recognize what to do with the "big blue containers" when they come in. As long as all of the paperwork is in order at my end and I'm diligent about tracking the package...our shipments have always arrived the next morning.

    Receiving dead sperm may have a lot to do with the individual stallion. All three of our boys ship beautifully. Picasso in particular, he's semen has still been vigorously semen after six days in a disposable container. But not all stallions will do that well so you will need to check with the Stallion Owner and make sure to find out the stats on his shipped semen.

    Good luck!
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    Probably 70-80% of my annual shipments (or maybe even more ...) are to clients in the States and as long as you have a commercial invoice done correctly and MAKE SURE when you drop it off to Fed Ex that any special instructions are noted (ie "hold for pick up" or "Saturday Delivery", etc) AND you check later on that night to make sure that it is going where it is supposed to be going, 99.9% of the time, everything is fine

    But having said that my background is freight and logistics and the success of the shipment is only as good as the person that key punched in the information, etc (and this holds true for Canada - US shipments as well as shipments within Canada or the USA). If they got distracted when they were entering in your shipment - yes maybe it is not going to go where it was supposed to go. So thats why I check the data on all of my shipments late that night when updates are posted on line and then check again in the morning to make sure they are going where they are supposed to be going. And its in time to correct most errors and I will usually find at least 1-2 per shipping season

    But US Customs delays? I hate to say never, but in 6-7 years of shipping to the States - we've never had one shipment delayed by US Customs at all ...

    Hope that helps!



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    We have used a stallion in Alberta for years now and usually have troubles getting timely shipments. We live in a rural KY town, but do have a UPS depot. Usually our shipments get hung up in customs in Memphis...it misses the truck to Ky. We have the same problems with Fed EX. The stallion we use last a long time, so we usually try to order our shipment a day earlier...because it will be a day late to us! It may be our location, but we get US shipments on time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TrakFan View Post
    We have used a stallion in Alberta for years now and usually have troubles getting timely shipments. We live in a rural KY town, but do have a UPS depot. Usually our shipments get hung up in customs in Memphis...it misses the truck to Ky. We have the same problems with Fed EX. The stallion we use last a long time, so we usually try to order our shipment a day earlier...because it will be a day late to us! It may be our location, but we get US shipments on time.
    We've shipped to Kentucky several times over the last few years and have NEVER had a problem. I'm wondering if the Stallion Owners paperwork isn't correct or they are not tracking the package properly. That much trouble doesn't make any sense!

    It is important for a Stallion owner to put a Priority Trace on any semen being shipped to the U.S. with Fed-Ex. It alerts the Fed-Ex managers at each depot along the way and makes sure the semen gets where it needs to!
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    Im with Daventry on this one. The ONLY reason US Customs would hold or delay a shipment is if paperwork is missing or not correct. Its literally as easy to send a shipment to the States as it is to another province within Canada. Its truly as straightforward a process as it can possibly be ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueColours View Post
    The ONLY reason US Customs would hold or delay a shipment is if paperwork is missing or not correct. Its literally as easy to send a shipment to the States as it is to another province within Canada. Its truly as straightforward a process as it can possibly be ...
    I totally agree! I'd be curious to know who the Stallion Owner is (I likely know them). I'm wondering if they are just not used to shipping semen to the U.S. and it may only be a once a year thing. If you don't do it all the time, it's easy to forget about paperwork or not understand the paperwork you need.

    That being said, you mentioned being in a rural area and having a UPS depot. I'm assuming that means that Fed-Ex is not keeping the container and delivering it directly to you. Meaning, I'm wondering if Fed-Ex is handing it off to another carrier for delivery...which sometimes can be a pain, as it's out of Fed-Ex's hands at that point. Your best bet would be to have to have it held for pick up at your closest Fed-Ex stop.
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    I bred to Wolkentanz II last year and I had no trouble getting semen. It arrived promptly and alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrakFan View Post
    We have used a stallion in Alberta for years now and usually have troubles getting timely shipments. We live in a rural KY town, but do have a UPS depot. Usually our shipments get hung up in customs in Memphis...it misses the truck to Ky. We have the same problems with Fed EX. The stallion we use last a long time, so we usually try to order our shipment a day earlier...because it will be a day late to us! It may be our location, but we get US shipments on time.
    I think I'm understanding it now...you are using UPS, not Fed-Ex. UPS is not something I would ever use for shipping semen. I know a few people have had good luck with them, but on the whole, I wouldn't use them.

    You mentioned that you've had the same problem with Fed-Ex...and getting stuck in Memphis. Most people don't realize that Memphis is the main hub. So, even if you ordered semen from Illinois, it will go to Memphis FIRST, and then sent out to you. If it were me, I'd go with Fed-Ex next time and make sure the Stallion Owner does a "Priority Trace". If you search for priority trace on here, a bunch of my threads will come up on here on how to do it properly. It might save you time and a lot of headaches.
    www.DaventryEquestrian.com
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    It doesnt matter if you live in the middle of nowhere in Canada or the USA - sometimes SO's and MO's need to be very flexible and creative to get the job done ...

    We have areas in Canada that FedEx cannot service overnight, but Purolator can. We have some areas that we ship to that dont do Saturday delivery so the MO has to drive 2 hours each way to get their semen from the closest depot. Its just the way it is at times ...

    We've had to do counter to counter on airlines because neither FedEx nor Purolator can offer delivery in the time frame we require, which means timing the collection to match up with the flight schedule to match up with the cut off time to make sure the semen arrives in time

    Its all possible. I dont think Ive ever come across a location anywhere that we simply cannot service. It just involves thinking "outside of the box" at times and putting your thinking cap on ...



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    I have been shipping to the US for many years, both by Fed Ex and by air.
    There is ALMOST NEVER a problem with customs. and Fed Ex really does amaze me with their efficiency.

    However to say the ONLY reason it would be held up is because of faulty or incomplete paperwork is not simply not true.

    Once in awhile things happen out of our control, and it is always sensible and reasonable to be aware of that possibility.

    For example, one time the semen got to Memphis, and the wife of the pilot on the next plane was in a car accident.
    The pilot left to go to the hospital, the plane stayed on the ground ,and everything was delayed an extra day.
    The semen was still excellent, and luckily the mare held on , and a pregnancy resulted.

    Good luck!
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    My experiences with Fed-Ex within the state of Virginia have been terrible. That was over 10 years ago. Maybe they have gotten better?
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    I've gotten semen from Canada to CA twice in the last three years and no problem at all. I think, as all these stallion owners say, they know what they're doing and there shouldn't be any problem.



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    My experiences with Fed-Ex within the state of Virginia have been terrible. That was over 10 years ago. Maybe they have gotten better?
    I really believe the onus is on the SO to research destinations to ensure appropriate service IS available to that area before they leave the box at the FedEx depot. And that isnt just for shipment to the US either

    FedEx doesnt offer overnight service to many parts of Nova Scotia up here but Purolator does. Vancouver Island - forget it with either FedEx or Purolator - and Air Canada hands off in Vancouver with no "suitable" trackability after that, so Westjet airlines won hands down on that one as they offered complete accountability and trackability from door to door and acceptable transit times as well

    If you are a SO you just simply have to accept that all shipments wont terminate in well populated areas of North America that offer overnight service and Saturday delivery and sometimes you just HAVE to go the extra mile to source out the best company and routing for the MO who may well be doing this for the first time and is 100% relying on your knowledge and expertise to get the semen to their mare on time



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    I will check on the Priority Trace...I am not sure if that is being done. I don't mind Fed Ex but UPS in general has been the best for us... my local guys are great and go way out of the way to get the semen to us on time. And we get creative sometimes to get it done!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybug Hill
    My experiences with Fed-Ex within the state of Virginia have been terrible. That was over 10 years ago. Maybe they have gotten better?


    The are still horrible (and this has nothing to do with shipping semen. They are just horrible (slow, late, etc.).
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