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  • Kitty questions

    So, DH and I adopted a kitty from the local shelter in August. She is currently 9 months old. She is the first house cat that either one of us have had. We are doing pretty good, but I do have a couple of questions about her litter box usage.

    1) She uses the box probably 95% of the time, but once a while she will pee on the couch, floor, or somewhere else that is not in the box. She is the only cat (we do have a small dog). Large litter box that is cleaned at least once a day. Dog does not have access to the box. Box in in a closet that is mostly private and out of the main traffic flow of the house. Any ideas why she pees on the couch?

    2) Sometimes after going poo she has some stuck to her bottom Then it gets on whatever she's hanging out on. Is this normal? Will she grow out of it, or do we just deal?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Get an extra box. One cat=2 boxes.

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    • #3
      I've had good luck for 1 box per cat, but most people recommend at least one extra box. You might try getting a second box but putting a different kind of litter in that box. Maybe your girl doesn't like your brand of litter. Another option is the Cat Attract litter. I hear that it's magic.

      As far as hygiene, I've found that most cats clean themselves most of the time. But there are some cats who don't seem to care and some cats who can't for various reasons (arthritis, too fat, etc). And then you have the odd (in every way) cat who is the Butt Patrol Kitteh who must make sure that everyone has a clean butt. IME, this is also the same kitteh who is convinced that he/she must show their love for you by licking you.
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        #4
        Hmm, I'll have to try something different with the litter box then. I'm not sure I can find a spot for a 2nd one that the dog can't get to. I know he will get into it if given the chance. I have a baby gate keeping him out of the one we have. I'll try different litter and see what happens.

        When I notice her yucky butt, I wash it, but that's normally after she's gotten on something. I guess we'll just roll with it.

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        • #5
          Is she a long haired cat? My long haired kitty will occasionally have some poop stuck to his bum. Incidents are drastically reduced when he goes to the groomer and gets his bum hair trimmed/shaved!!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Blondie22 View Post
            Is she a long haired cat? My long haired kitty will occasionally have some poop stuck to his bum. Incidents are drastically reduced when he goes to the groomer and gets his bum hair trimmed/shaved!!
            Nope, short hair.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jen-s View Post
              Maybe your girl doesn't like your brand of litter.
              This is a good point. What kind of litter do you use?

              When my litterbox gets too dirty, my cats tend to rub the extra poop off their butts onto the floor rather than in the box. And I don't really blame them for it...

              Maybe your cat feels the litter is too dirty, even if there isn't anything visible in it. Could be just the smell, or the feel of it that she doesn't like. Cats are weird.

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                #8
                I'm using Tidy Cats clumping. I need to get some more, so I'll try something else, probably the Cat Attract and see what happens.

                It could be that she thinks the box is dirty. Last time I just dumped in the whole bucket. I scoop daily, but there are small bits that don't come out. Maybe if I just put in a little bit and changed it out weekly?

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                • #9
                  In my experience, it's not appearance but smell that makes a cat decide that a litterbox is "dirty". In the days before the Nature's Miracle type products (which I now use whenever I completely dump the litter) I would have to periodically throw out litterboxes that apparently still had an odor even when washed. I'm happy to say that this has not happened with a regular wiping with Nature's Miracle or its generic equivalent!

                  That same type of product is a godsend for cleaning places the cat has peed that are inappropriate. But there's something even better that I learned about on COTH, I just have to get up and find mine to get the right name... okay it is called Cat Odor-Off. The link should take you to it on Amazon but it's available other places as well. It lasts forever since you dilute it to use it, and on the rare occasion where a cat has peed in the wrong place I've been able to entirely remove the odor (and stop kitty recidivism!).

                  Regarding the poopy butt -- what are you feeding your kitty? I feed Taste of the Wild and it really reduces the size of the poops which I think must indicate more digestible content. The poops are also firm and I doubt they'd stick to any nether region. I'm skeptical about sticky/smooshy poop and would try to attack that (the consistency) with a change of diet to see if that solves the problem.

                  BTW, back to the litter situation -- I hate Tidy Cat. I still use it because my cats don't care (I do have four litterboxes for three cats though) and it is the cheapest alternative, but I hate the way it clumps (or doesn't, as the case may be). My sisters swear by Arm and Hammer in the blue/black box so I bought that this week and will be trying it when I clean the litters this weekend.
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                    #10
                    When she pees on the couch, I dry it as best I can, then it goes outside to sit in the sun for a few hours, then I use Fabreez extra strength on it. The human noses in the house cannot smell anything on the couch after this treatment.

                    Ivy is being fed Taste of the Wild dry and Nutro Max Cat kitten wet 2X per day. Most of her poops are firm, but once in a while there is a not so firm one that sticks to her.

                    I will try a different litter next time I change it out, which should be soon.

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                    • #11
                      Nature's Miracle really is a miracle. A must for cleaning the couch, or something like what JoZ said. Even if we can't smell the pee, they might, and think it's an okay place to pee.
                      I've been using sawdust pellets for a long time for cat litter. Like for stall bedding. But cheaper than Feline Pine.

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                      • #12
                        Have you talked to a vet? I took in a feral that had never been in a house and had him in a cage. He was using the towel I gave him to sleep on instead of his litterbox so I removed the towel and have not had a problem since. He located the regular litterbox first time out and has used it ever since.

                        I have three cats and one litterbox but I do strip it bare every day and clean it a few times a day.

                        Where is the litterbox? Is it really far away from parts of the house?
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                        • #13
                          I would get a second box. A top entry model like a clever cat will keep the dog out.

                          How often are you scooping your current box?

                          Unfortunately it doesn't sound like you're fully removing the urine with your current cleaning method. Febreeze masks odors but does not break them down so it's entirely possible kitty is returning to the same few spots. Nature's miracle is really good, as is hydrogen peroxide (may bleach colors), oxy clean, even just plain old vinegar can help if you're diligent. Regardless, I'd definitely gets something that breaks down odors and use it religiously.

                          My cats have all gotten yucky poops on kitten food so we just give them regular wet food - kittens just need more of it. This has helped us a lot.
                          Originally posted by BAC
                          I don't think FF's post was rude (not this one at least).

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                            #14
                            The house is small, so the box is easily accessible from all parts of the house.

                            I scoop the box once a day.

                            I'll get some Natures Miracle next time I go to the store.

                            Interesting about the kitten food. Once we have used up this case, I'll have try some adult food and see if that helps.

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                            • #15
                              When you brought her home did you lock her in the room with the litterbox or let her free range right off the bat? What other behavior is she exhibiting besides peeing on the couch?
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                              • #16
                                For inappropriate peeing, a trip to the vet is really in order to rule out infection or crystals.

                                Once you've crossed medical issues off the list, look elsewhere. Consider putting her on cosequin--if she has sterile cystitis, that will help make her more comfortable.

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                                • #17
                                  Given that you say this is a 5% of the time issue AND it sounds like she is choosing visible, open spots, I'd be inclined to think it's either anxiety/upset or she has a low-grade recurrent bladder issue. Or both.

                                  The great news is that if it truly is an anxiety/anger/pain issue, if you resolve the cause, you resolve the behavior.

                                  So I'd be looking at things like "what's going on in the house in the day leading up to the potty incident" and checking her over physically. Sudden changes in potty habits are (in my experience) normally a reaction to something, and the cat is desperately trying to communicate its distress.
                                  "The nice thing about memories is the good ones are stronger and linger longer than the bad and we sure have some incredibly good memories." - EverythingButWings

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                                  • #18
                                    I have had varying numbers of cats at a time (currently 3) and the main thing that I try to stick with is 1 box per cat, plus one. So 1 cat = 2 boxes, 2 cats = 3 boxes, etc. This also allows you to try different litters out to figure out what your cat prefers.

                                    Litter box cabinets are a godsend if you have dogs/children/etc or if you live in a small place. They come in really basic (think IKEA) to really elaborate, hide box (and odor) well, allow the cat some privacy (essential in multi-cat or cat/dog situations), and keeps naughty dogs/children out.

                                    As others have stated, inappropriate peeing can stem from veterinary issues. It can also be a sign that the cat is upset because the box isn't clean enough (some cats are very picky about this, some couldn't care less) or because they feel vulnerable in the box. I have a cat who will only poop in the litter box once. If you don't scoop it out before she has to poop again, then she'll poop next to it. I have another cat who will only use an open box, because she is afraid of the other cats and wants to be able to see her surroundings at all times.

                                    I scoop my boxes right after I feed in the morning, when I get home from work, and right before I go to bed. I use Arm & Hammer Multi Cat, which seems to be the best compromise of odor control and cat satisfaction in my household.
                                    It is only through labor and painful effort, by grim energy and resolute courage, that we move on to better things.
                                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                                    • #19
                                      If this has been mentioned already, I apologize, as I did not read every single post.

                                      But is she still on kitten food? Sometimes kitten food has a tendency to make their poops on the squishy side, which could explain why there's some residue on her butt and it's not making a clean break, so to speak. I had a little bit of a skinky butt problem with my most recent kitty, who is around the same age as yours. Once she started eating adult food, the problem seemed to resolve itself.

                                      Some of the other suggestions you've gotten here are good. Try another litter box, maybe a different type of box, and different type of litter. That and the food. That's really all I can think of... as I've been pretty lucky and never had a cat that didn't go in their box 100% of the time.

                                      Good luck!!

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                                        #20
                                        She is on wet kitten food. As soon as this case is finished, I'm going to switch to adult and see what happens. Until then, I'll just try to catch it and clean her when needed.

                                        I switched to the Cat Attract litter a couple days ago, so far so good

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