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Cane Corso moved in 3 doors down (Townhouses) am I being unreasonably concerned?

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  • I am not commenting on any breed at all, but I see two posts from people who were attacked by a dog which was chained to a dog house. That is an entirely different aspect which doesn't have anything to do with breed. If a dog is chained continually, then the circumference of the chain turns into its territory. Things coming into the territory can often be perceived as a threat even though they are not. For example, a jogger running past a chained dog. The dog sees a person running at him and into his territory, even though the jogger might not have even noticed the dog. Similarly, a dog left in a car can be extremely protective of its space. I have very sweet dogs, but I would never encourage a stranger to stick his face through the car window to say hello.
    I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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    • It's been a week+. Has the Cane Corso been sighted loose again?
      The virtual "woodshed" seems the only remedy for willful fools .

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        Originally posted by Joanne View Post
        It's been a week+. Has the Cane Corso been sighted loose again?

        Ha ha - one sighting after, where he had the dog sit and held her but still no collar or leash - so ridiculous. I've not seen any of the family this week so they must be away on vacation.

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        • Originally posted by khall View Post
          vacation, really? Here are some professionals in vet medicine that disagree with you on so many points. http://avsabonline.org/uploads/posit...download-1.pdf
          Khall, I don't mind if you stalk me around COTH objecting to my every post, but could you come up with an introduction other than "Vacation, really?" It gets old. And please, come up with some less pathetic arguments. Vets largely support the pit bull owners. I'm well aware of that; it's hard to avoid knowing that when all my conversations with the people with whom I trust my pet - the vet, the groomer, the techs - are fraught with that tension of my wanting to be 110% sure they realize I do NOT want my elderly dog exposed to someone's pit bull and their wanting to not give a shit because that's an ambassabull! In my more bitter moments, I have to wonder if vets support pit bull owners because they're such a MARVELOUS source of revenue. But you will see that change. Institutions change slowly, so it won't be immediate. But as more people lose pets to pit attacks, those people aren't going to want to hear "Oh, look at sweet Banjo the rescue pittie who gives kisses!" in the vet waiting room anymore. They're not going to put up with having ol' Felon in the Petsmart grooming center. The pit owners are a tiny, tiny minority that got an outsized voice because they needed it to overcome the fact they were in the wrong. Their lack of numbers is going to kill them in the end. A vet practice made up of only pit bulls is going under in a hurry. It took 30 years for the pit owners to make this dent in society; in another 30, they'll be gone.

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          • vacation your unrealistic views on pit bulls and bully breeds in general gets old. I cannot imagine a person with any sense or intelligence that would condemn an entire breed(s) for very very few and many mis identified attacks.

            You are living in fantasy land if you think an entire breed will disappear just because you want it to. If you read any of the statement in the link, many countries and cities who had BSLs are now repealing them because they just do not work, despite you saying they do (that fantasy land thing again). Sounds like you need to move to your own little land away from all the big bad pit bulls you might encounter.

            Really, get some help with this unreasonable and irrational fear of the bully breeds. Wonder what that fear is called in psychiatric world? Bullyphobia?

            I know nothing I write will change your ideas, I don't really care, I just get so tired of reading your attacks against a breed/type that I admire in many ways. I cannot imagine any person with any kind of heart that thinks that all bullies should die. Just unfathomable in my head.

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            • Can we keep this discussion focussed on the dog in question, Cane Corso, please?

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              • Originally posted by khall View Post
                Really, get some help with this unreasonable and irrational fear of the bully breeds. Wonder what that fear is called in psychiatric world? Bullyphobia? ... I just get so tired of reading your attacks against a breed/type that I admire in many ways. I cannot imagine any person with any kind of heart that thinks that all bullies should die. Just unfathomable in my head.
                Bullyphobia... and here I thought the ranting that BSL is "unconstitutional" was the ultimate in pit bull owner self-aggrandizement. It's a dog breed. Get over yourself already. Lots of dog breeds have died out over the years. Anybody who "admires" the parts of the pit bull that are non-dangerous can easily find a breed which possess those attributes and has that added component the pits lack, which is inhibited bite and self-preservation. Lots of big, muscular dogs out there that aren't mauling people and killing dogs in horrific numbers every day. Ban a handful of breeds, and make the world safer for dogs. Or protect one breed and make the world far more dangerous for dogs. I have a head and a heart, and that's one easy choice.

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                • Originally posted by khall View Post
                  vacation your unrealistic views on pit bulls and bully breeds in general gets old. I cannot imagine a person with any sense or intelligence that would condemn an entire breed(s) for very very few and many mis identified attacks.

                  You are living in fantasy land if you think an entire breed will disappear just because you want it to. If you read any of the statement in the link, many countries and cities who had BSLs are now repealing them because they just do not work, despite you saying they do (that fantasy land thing again). Sounds like you need to move to your own little land away from all the big bad pit bulls you might encounter.

                  Really, get some help with this unreasonable and irrational fear of the bully breeds. Wonder what that fear is called in psychiatric world? Bullyphobia?

                  I know nothing I write will change your ideas, I don't really care, I just get so tired of reading your attacks against a breed/type that I admire in many ways. I cannot imagine any person with any kind of heart that thinks that all bullies should die. Just unfathomable in my head.
                  I'm not a CPA.

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                  • I don't care what breed of dog you have, or the numbers, as long as your animal doesn't come on my property, doesn't bother me when I'm on public property, and is properly controlled in public. I don't care what breed you have if you feed, house, and treat your animal kindly and properly. And if you have an animal that attacks another animal or human (yes, I've been watching Judge Judy again), don't stand up in court and deny that your animals have multiple previous attacks recorded by the animal control, and police records. Bad owners always forget police and animal control records are available. The denial that some animal owners practice about the behavior of their animals is amazing.
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                    • I don't think I buy the "territory" argument either. We have a big, purebred GSD and a big GSD/Malamute cross. They have a large pen and get out to run around with us. We don't leave them out unsupervised, because of the wildlife. I think the temptation of deer could prove too much . But where people are concerned, they are very trustworthy. In fact an insurance guy took a ladder into their pen to inspect my roof, I was out raking hay, and came home to find them playing and getting lovins from the guy,inside their pen.

                      BUT, both of these dogs were heavily socialized as young pups, handled by every single person we could get to hold, pet and play with them. Because we can't afford to have a dog around that would bite a person.

                      Put me down as a person who would be very concerned if there was a CC in the neighborhood. Of course in this neighborhood, if any big dog is running around loose, it is soon a dead dog. This is sheep and cattle country so loose dogs aren't welcome.
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                      • Originally posted by Megaladon View Post
                        Haven't met a nice one. If it were me, yes, I would be concerned. Not sure there is much you can do. It sounds like you are on the right track however, good luck.
                        How many have you met?

                        They're great dogs, but they require someone who has a clue. I was lucky to know someone in Aiken whose SO bred them.. I met just about every dog on the premises - they each had distinct personalities but not a single one was aggressive. They were inquisitive but quiet. I was really impressed with them.

                        In the wrong hands, they're just like any other dog.
                        AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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                        • Originally posted by vacation1 View Post
                          Khall, I don't mind if you stalk me around COTH objecting to my every post, but could you come up with an introduction other than "Vacation, really?" It gets old. And please, come up with some less pathetic arguments. Vets largely support the pit bull owners. I'm well aware of that; it's hard to avoid knowing that when all my conversations with the people with whom I trust my pet - the vet, the groomer, the techs - are fraught with that tension of my wanting to be 110% sure they realize I do NOT want my elderly dog exposed to someone's pit bull and their wanting to not give a shit because that's an ambassabull! In my more bitter moments, I have to wonder if vets support pit bull owners because they're such a MARVELOUS source of revenue. But you will see that change. Institutions change slowly, so it won't be immediate. But as more people lose pets to pit attacks, those people aren't going to want to hear "Oh, look at sweet Banjo the rescue pittie who gives kisses!" in the vet waiting room anymore. They're not going to put up with having ol' Felon in the Petsmart grooming center. The pit owners are a tiny, tiny minority that got an outsized voice because they needed it to overcome the fact they were in the wrong. Their lack of numbers is going to kill them in the end. A vet practice made up of only pit bulls is going under in a hurry. It took 30 years for the pit owners to make this dent in society; in another 30, they'll be gone.
                          Oh. my.

                          I have to give a colossal eyeroll to anyone who is so anti-pit/bull breed - nothing shouts narrowminded ignorance more to me. Half the reason bullies have such a reputation is because just about any stray with four legs and two eyes is classified as a pit/bully breed - regardless if it has any bully ancestry. So really, you're looking at thousands of misguided and misidentified 'cases' where a 'bully breed' is responsible for 'yet another brutal and vicious mauling'. ALL dogs are INHERENTLY dangerous. Cute yellow labs kill people too!

                          Really, BSL doesn't work, won't work, and in 30 years there will still be bully breeds here.

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                          AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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                          • Originally posted by vacation1 View Post
                            Khall, I don't mind if you stalk me around COTH objecting to my every post, but could you come up with an introduction other than "Vacation, really?" It gets old. And please, come up with some less pathetic arguments. Vets largely support the pit bull owners. I'm well aware of that; it's hard to avoid knowing that when all my conversations with the people with whom I trust my pet - the vet, the groomer, the techs - are fraught with that tension of my wanting to be 110% sure they realize I do NOT want my elderly dog exposed to someone's pit bull and their wanting to not give a shit because that's an ambassabull! In my more bitter moments, I have to wonder if vets support pit bull owners because they're such a MARVELOUS source of revenue. But you will see that change. Institutions change slowly, so it won't be immediate. But as more people lose pets to pit attacks, those people aren't going to want to hear "Oh, look at sweet Banjo the rescue pittie who gives kisses!" in the vet waiting room anymore. They're not going to put up with having ol' Felon in the Petsmart grooming center. The pit owners are a tiny, tiny minority that got an outsized voice because they needed it to overcome the fact they were in the wrong. Their lack of numbers is going to kill them in the end. A vet practice made up of only pit bulls is going under in a hurry. It took 30 years for the pit owners to make this dent in society; in another 30, they'll be gone.

                            Interestingly enough from a vet tech's point of view , one who's worked primarily in emergency / orthopedic surgery they are the best dogs to work on.

                            Happy go lucky even when they are in extreme pain , submissive and tolerant even when they are in pain or uncomfortable , easy to handle in recovery and to medicate.

                            I've had the S@&* bit out of me by dozens of angry cats , every small dog breed you can imagine and a few rarer large dogs(although most of those were pain/fear related bites ) Not one pit bull in 11 plus years has ever offered to be anything but well behaved.

                            I've seen them hobble in on 3 legs with the other dangling from a compound fracture still trying to wag their tails and kiss every person in site. Some that were so hurt that they were stretchered in and barely with us who still would offer a tump of a tail and a kiss to complete strangers who were poking prodding and by all accounts causing more pain.

                            They are not perfect and humans certainly have made it hard for them but to rebuke an entire breed based on the behavior of a few is lunacy.

                            There certainly have been some really horrible human beings....should we all be viewed the same as they?
                            "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                            • Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
                              Interestingly enough from a vet tech's point of view , one who's worked primarily in emergency / orthopedic surgery they are the best dogs to work on.

                              Happy go lucky even when they are in extreme pain , submissive and tolerant even when they are in pain or uncomfortable , easy to handle in recovery and to medicate.

                              I've had the S@&* bit out of me by dozens of angry cats , every small dog breed you can imagine and a few rarer large dogs(although most of those were pain/fear related bites ) Not one pit bull in 11 plus years has ever offered to be anything but well behaved.

                              I've seen them hobble in on 3 legs with the other dangling from a compound fracture still trying to wag their tails and kiss every person in site. Some that were so hurt that they were stretchered in and barely with us who still would offer a tump of a tail and a kiss to complete strangers who were poking prodding and by all accounts causing more pain.

                              They are not perfect and humans certainly have made it hard for them but to rebuke an entire breed based on the behavior of a few is lunacy.

                              There certainly have been some really horrible human beings....should we all be viewed the same as they?
                              And I witnessed one maul my technician and then try to attack me. I used an IV stand to push it off me as it tried to go for my face. The only serious bite I have seen in a decade as a veterinarian

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                                • Not anti breeds, anti irresponsible owners

                                  As do most horse people, I know owners of many different types of breeds.

                                  In the 70s and 80s, the Dobermen and Rotties were the breeds of aggression.

                                  Under the wrong care, these dogs are probably more prone to aggressive behavior than say a Lab.

                                  There are exceptions to any breed. I know dogs in the PB world as well as the CC world. The ones that I know with responsible, firm and good owners are wonderful dogs. I have no hesitation around them.

                                  I have a neighbor who rescued a dog aggressive PB. It ended badly to say the least. Dog was out of her yard on a fairly regular basis, he attacked dogs in the neighborhood and tallied up quite a huge vet bill on the one that didn't get away.

                                  My beef (other than her irresponsibility of owning a KNOWN dog aggressive dog and failing to keep it contained) is with the rescues who place these dogs. I firmly believe (and I may be bashed for this) unless you are 100% certain that the new home can contain the dog and not allow it to cause any issues, they should not be placing these dogs. There are so many really good PBs, CC etc who would promote the breed in a positive manner that need homes. Concentrate on the ones you can save and unfortunately, I think the dog and people aggressive ones should be put to sleep if a very experienced home can't be found for them.

                                  These so called "rescues" who place these dogs into homes knowing there is a chance they won't be successful do so much bad for the aggressive breeds as well as dog rescues in general.

                                  Hopefully the breeders of these dogs screen the new owners well and place them in homes with experienced dog owners.

                                  Off my soapbox...

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                                  • Originally posted by beowulf View Post
                                    I have to give a colossal eyeroll to anyone who is so anti-pit/bull breed - nothing shouts narrowminded ignorance more to me.
                                    I'd question the use of eye-rolling in a written format, but given quality of your actual arguments, it's probably best if you stick to grimaces and hand gestures to communicate.

                                    Originally posted by beowulf View Post
                                    Half the reason bullies have such a reputation is because just about any stray with four legs and two eyes is classified as a pit/bully breed - regardless if it has any bully ancestry. So really, you're looking at thousands of misguided and misidentified 'cases' where a 'bully breed' is responsible for 'yet another brutal and vicious mauling'.
                                    That might work better if so many pit bull attacks, particularly the fatal ones, weren't done by pets instead of strays. Pets which are registered American Bullies, like the thing in the Mia DeRouen killing. Pets which the owners had proudly, pre-attack, lauded on their FB pages as "ambassabulls" and specifically called pit bulls, like the Cindy Whisman killing. There are huge holes in the "can't nobody ID a pit bull" argument.

                                    Originally posted by beowulf View Post
                                    ALL dogs are INHERENTLY dangerous. Cute yellow labs kill people too! Really, BSL doesn't work, won't work, and in 30 years there will still be bully breeds here.
                                    No, all breeds are not inherently dangerous. All wolves are, all coyotes are, etc., because they are wild animals whose breeding choices have been fairly random. Dogs are domesticated animals whose breeding has been controlled by humans who wanted specialists. So we have herders and hunters and chasers and retrievers and killers. The only killers are the bulldogs. The terriers and the greyhounds, as predatory as they can be, are primarily about hunting and chasing. The only type that was created to close, to attack and attack until the target died, was the bulldog. Dogs will always bite. A few dogs will always attack. Breeds designed for guard/protection work will almost always have a higher incidence of this than breeds designed to trail a rabbit through a field. And a few dogs will always kill. That's just a realistic understanding of the world. There will always be an individual that's bizarrely aggressive, an abberation. Short of eliminating the species, you can't eradicate the potential of canines to hurt humans. But you can remove 60% of the worst dog behavior by removing one strain of dog. Remove the bulldog, or rework it so the aggression is gone, and you have a vastly improved situation for both dogs and humans.

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                                      well folks the CC owner was away on vacation and then I was out of town... So yesterday I'm returning home from walking my dog.. out bounds the CC, owner calling her to sit.. then says to dog just say Hello.. Since I was steps away from my house, and being chilled from vacation, I didn't say anything about keeping dog on leash.. but then owner takes CC for a run around a pond near our homes - no leash, no collar. I hope he at least put some Frontline or something on the dog - that area is full of ticks.

                                      We'll see what the next few weeks bring... in the meantime the other neighbor's not-so-friendly boxer/pit mix almost took out a poodle. Ah life in the burbs.

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                                      • Originally posted by gottagrey View Post
                                        well folks the CC owner was away on vacation and then I was out of town... So yesterday I'm returning home from walking my dog.. out bounds the CC, owner calling her to sit.. then says to dog just say Hello..
                                        Did the dog sit? What does "just say hello" mean?

                                        I have experienced a certain anxious tone of voice, "Fluffy, be nice. Just say hello. It's oooook, Fluffy. Be niiiiice." from owners of dogs straining on their leashes, hard staring, growling, and posturing at my dogs. NO ONE is saying hello, thankyouverymuch, and reel your d@mn dog in (cuz those dogs/owners are always attached to flexis)!

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                                        • I have experienced a certain anxious tone of voice, "Fluffy, be nice. Just say hello. It's oooook, Fluffy. Be niiiiice." from owners of dogs straining on their leashes, hard staring, growling, and posturing at my dogs.
                                          Or not growling and just posturing. Those are the ones that make me nuts, because that will set my dog off. Idiots.

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