Stallion Spotlight

Contenda MIHT 14 SJ2 JW 2

Real Estate Spotlight

  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums’ policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

How long for Metacam to take effect? (UPDATE)

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • How long for Metacam to take effect? (UPDATE)

    Last week, my little 6-year-old Brussels Griffon started experiencing seemingly intense pain in his rear right leg. He would walk and then yelp and tuck the leg under, or show pain when being picked up (as he would extend that leg). There was no known injury or trauma.

    Thinking that perhaps he had just sprained something, he spent a few days on baby Aspirin (per vet's recommendation) with no improvement. Yesterday, we went in for an exam where he showed no signs of pain during palpation of both legs, spine, back, neck, etc. No neurological symptoms either.

    He had Grade 1 luxating patellas briefly as a puppy (during a growth spurt), but was never in pain because of them. Vet says both patellas luxate still and there is thickening in both joints. Vet diagnosed him as having arthritis and prescribed ArthriMaxx and Metacam. Vet also pulled a CBC panel, which we do not know the results on yet.

    He got dosed Metacam at the vets and was in good spirits and much happier all last night—even jumped up on the couch on his own. He woke up around 3 a.m. and yelped when he repositioned himself on the bed. I gave him a little more Metacam and he seemed to settle.

    Today he got his dose of Arthrimaxx and Metacam, but we've not been having a good day... Yelps and tries to snap if I pick him up, was not at all excited to go outside and would occasional cry as he walked and pick up that back right leg. He's sleeping next to me on the couch now, but he's definitely not himself. He has not eaten his dry food for several days now—I've been making a raw mixture for him to get him to eat.

    Does the Metacam just take time? Should I request some Tramadol or something just for the pain? The vet said we'll have good days and bad days but I'm just sick of the bad days—I want my dog back!

    Sorry the novel. Any advice or even sympathy appreciated.
    Last edited by Tha Ridge; Aug. 19, 2013, 08:02 PM. Reason: New update!

  • #2
    As you know, different dogs react differently to pain and pain meds than other dogs do, and the dog can't say if it's a 1 or 10 on the pain scale. I would call the vet and ask his thoughts as he may want to change the dosage or try something else.

    I took my JRT in for almost the exact same sort of pain, in one hind leg, and my vet prescribed rimadyl I think it was, but my dog was acting like he felt worse the next day, so we went back. The vet said that he had underestimated my dog's pain level and he added tramadol which worked great. Now my dog didn't have arthiritis, but I'm sure the level of meds needed is still a bit of a guessing game all the same.
    Rhode Islands are red;
    North Hollands are blue.
    Sorry my thoroughbreds
    Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :


    • #3
      Becareful giving "extra" metacam. Its a pretty potent drug which can cause some nasty ulcers if overdosed. Hard to tell if the anorexia is due to pain, but skip the metacam if he isn't eating at all.

      Can your vet refer to you an orthopedic specialist? Sounds like something is being missed.

      Metacam should take effect in a few hours and last 24.


      • #4
        My dog is on Metacam right now. Actually, we had withheld it since he seemed ok, but after talking to the vet on tuesday, we put him back on it. The vet was adamant about the dosage and made sure he was not getting anything else that would be contra-indicated.
        He got his first dose on Wednesday am and I saw an improvement within hours. Less lethargic, more willing to get up and walk, etc.
        I bought the large bottle because he will be on it for a while before and after surgery next week.
        It works!!


        • Original Poster

          The anorexia started before the Metacam. He'll eat his raw food, just not interested in the dry stuff, which isn't the end of the world, I suppose, since he does have a full tummy either way.

          We had a relatively good night last night comparatively speaking, so I think it's beginning to work. Vet did tell me to be patient (not my strong suit) and I've read elsewhere that for some dogs, it works almost immediately whereas for others, it can take a day or two. One shelter worker friend said that for some dogs it doesn't seem to work at all—hope we're not that dog!

          If we don't see improvement in the upcoming week, I'll definitely get a referral elsewhere.


          • #6
            I hope its just taking a while for the Metacam to kick in, but Lyme can cause anorexia, mild to severe and often rotating leg/joint lameness and fever. Are they doing a Lyme test?

            And FWIW, my vet adamantly cautions against overdosing with NSAIDs, and says generally it takes 36-48 hrs or longer to see results. I've found Metacam to be one of the most effective NSAIDs, and with the least side-effects. My husband likes his meloxicam too, yes he does


            • Original Poster

              Originally posted by lovey1121 View Post
              I hope its just taking a while for the Metacam to kick in, but Lyme can cause anorexia, mild to severe and often rotating leg/joint lameness and fever. Are they doing a Lyme test?
              Yep. Not 100 percent sure yet, but lyme seems unlikely—no fever, and living in Manhattan, he doesn't ever spend time in wooded areas where ticks would be common. There's also no apparent pain when the joint is palpated. It's a good suggestion though—it was the first thing the vet asked.

              Hoping that the Metacam is just taking its time, especially since it does seem like it's relatively safe and easy on the dog compared to other options. I talked to the vet again today and we're going back for X-rays on Tuesday if we don't see anymore improvement.


              • #8
                Originally posted by Tha Ridge View Post
                Yep. Not 100 percent sure yet, but lyme seems unlikely—no fever, and living in Manhattan, he doesn't ever spend time in wooded areas where ticks would be common. There's also no apparent pain when the joint is palpated. It's a good suggestion though—it was the first thing the vet asked.

                Hoping that the Metacam is just taking its time, especially since it does seem like it's relatively safe and easy on the dog compared to other options. I talked to the vet again today and we're going back for X-rays on Tuesday if we don't see anymore improvement.
                A lyme test is pretty cheap. My last cocker didn't exhibit pain when being palpated either, but she definitely had Lyme. Lyme doesn't necessarily present with a fever and you can still pick it up in a city...rodents carry Lyme ticks and are an interim host.

                Off Topic Discussion about Life, Interests & Politics


                • #9
                  In my experience (and I'm not a vet), I would expect the Metacam to be fairly effective within 48 hours. If it's not, there are other options and/or combinations. But it's not wise to make changes without talking to your vet because of potential interactions. I sure hope you can get your critter feeling better soon.
                  A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                  Might be a reason, never an excuse...


                  • Original Poster

                    He's been taking the vet-recommended dose of Metacam. It was only that first night that he got a little more. I did ask the vet if that was OK and they said it was fine that once, so no more need to bring it up. It's about 48 hours now, and pain is still consistent.

                    It sucks, but I'm beginning to feel a little like it may be something more intense like osteosarcoma. I hope I'm just being a worrywart.

                    ETA: We *are* testing for Lyme, just don't know results yet. Also awaiting results from a CBC panel.


                    • #11
                      Try not to worry. I know its hard, but statistics are against osteosarcoma, so try to stay positive that its something not so sinister!

                      A chronically luxating patella can be painful, as can a cruciate tear or meniscal tear. Xrays should help rule things out, and hopefully diagnose a problem that can be fixed


                      • Original Poster

                        Thanks! Just sucks to see your best friend in pain.


                        • #13
                          I would add that it would be wise to limit his movement, especially if/when the painkillers kick in. No jumping on the couch or jumping up etc. Calm, short walks only until you know what is going on. If he has a sprain or other orthopedic injury, he could be aggravating it by being too active as he feels better and then you are back where you started (or worse!)


                          • Original Poster

                            Still no improvement with the Metacam... We're going in for x-rays this afternoon or first thing tomorrow.


                            • Original Poster

                              Well, we did X-rays this afternoon. The vet palpated again and got a pretty violent reaction around the hips, so we did two views of his hips.

                              They showed us what we already sort of knew—arthritic changes in the knee and a little bit of dysplasia in the right hip, that we'll continue managing with Metacam, as needed, and ArthriMaxx for day-to-day.

                              BUT the biggest thing the X-rays showed: bone fragments passing through his intestines, especially in his colon which is perfectly in line with the pain he showed today and the pain he's been showing when he's picked up. They are small enough to pass on their own (with a little help from Lactulose) but definitely big enough to be causing pain. I did at least get some Tramadol in case his pain persists for a few more days.

                              So that is my anti-climactic, non-romantic answer! I don't know where he ate bones (but he does eat all sorts of things here off the street in the blink of an eye), but I'm glad that it's nothing tragic. He took a giant poo upon leaving the vet's office and seems to be in better spirits already.


                              • #16
                                Yay, glad to hear!!