• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

sundowners/dementia/anxiety and sedatives

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • sundowners/dementia/anxiety and sedatives

    Hi all,
    Posting here for my sister, who is nearly at her wits' end with an older dog who's recently developed serious anxiety.

    The dog's a 10-ish year old lab mix, spayed female. She's always been a model citizen and super easy to be around. The past couple of years it became obvious she was losing her hearing and some vision but she seemed to cope without issue.

    A few months ago, she quickly developed a case of anxiety. Some separation anxiety when the family leaves (she has a dog friend with normal, unchanged behaviors) but primarily outburts at bedtime and throughout the night. She paces, pants heavily, and paws at everyone in bed incessently. She cannot be left outside, crated or closed up as she is out of her mind tearing at the doors and destroying her surroundings. They haven't slept in months.

    The dog's had multiple, complete workups at the vet. Within the last year she was diagnosed with congestive heart failure (in the very, very early stages) and had a total workup and ultrasound with a cardiologist. She has had her regular senior exam, CBC's, bloodwork to check thyroid/liver/kidney function, xrays, physical exams, etc. following the onset of anxiety.

    The only anomoly on her results is a slightly low thyroid. She's being treated with prescription meds as hypothyroid, despite the fact she's always been very trim and in fact has lost something like 6 lbs on her 46 lb frame. They gave the meds a few weeks to work and retested with little change. The vets then added Prozac to attempt to combat the anxiety.

    Still no improvement. The dog's still losing weight and panicing at night. The vets are looking to refer her on.. but to where? What kind of specialist? Behaviorist? They would also like to put her on a sedative so the family can rest. They literally cannot sleep. The vet's recommended ace. Thoughts on a better option that's compatable with the psychotropic drugs? Other suggestions on what else they can work up? ANY help would be much appreciated!

  • #2
    did they try Anipryl?

    if the dog is so distressed and can't be helped, it's certainly ok to consider euth.


    • #3
      I think they need to find what is causing the weight loss. That seems very suspicious to me. For sure get another opinion. Until then, her symptoms are also consistant with pain. If anxiety meds don't work, maybe try pain meds.


      • #4
        Have them test for Cushings. My brothers dog did the same thing. He had the test for Cushings, was positive, then went on treatment, and the symptoms were eliminated.


        • #5
          Our old lady Labrador was pretty much the same at the end of her life. We learned after the fact that tramadol and alprazolam are not compatible, and in fact made her worse. Tramadol alone seems to help our other old dog, both with pain to some extent and just to let her sleep soundly. I would imagine you've already tried that.

          We finally decided that our old lady dog was just not enjoying this life any more and didn't have to stay here any longer. She got to the point where she never relaxed and would hurt herself when she had her panic attacks. No fun for anyone to find 90 lb of Labrador stuck in the bathtub.


          • #6
            A friend had an older lab that had anxiety attacks along with vision problems. He would be delighted to see someone approach, then try to attack them when they got within range. Anxiety or fear? Anyhow, they did have to euthanize him.

            Labs seem to have more age related problems than most, ime--but they're really sweet dogs.