• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Educate me on dog food for the smallish, slightly overweight

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Educate me on dog food for the smallish, slightly overweight

    DH and I will most likely be getting a dog once we settle into our new digs. We both like her and the dog loves me through massive bribes of treat laden pockets, but very friendly, sweet dog as a whole. She's a quick study this one, sits by a look and figuring out down(usually we meet outside, so down isn't really nice in the snow), comes when called. She's a beagle mix of some sort, I think corgi, but she doesn't have the stunted legs.

    I know about the generic Purina/Dad's foods are filled with corn and junk. Our usual grocer started carrying Evolve, both cat and dog food( http://www.triumphpet.com/evolve/evolve.pdf ) which looks decent, it does seem to have a lot of plant based ingredients after the first 4. I've used Chicken Soup in the past with my family's old dog and she liked it. I do have a CountryMax and TSC close by that have huge selections.

    I switched my cats to an all wet diet after all these years and they are doing great. Do dogs need wet food as well as dry? Old family dog got her kibble top dressed with wet but we really didn't know any better. New dog is a little overweight, she doesn't have the conformation to be really svelt(again more corgi shaped body), but she's got a pretty good covering over her ribs. Still has the belly "tuck" though and she's very active. I think she's carrying a bit more since she stays outside (with a dog house) most days.

    New place has lots of room to run outside and in. I plan on having the cat's feeding area off limits for he dog. I've started to cut back on the treats already, not giving her one every time she does something, but lots of praise/attention instead.

  • #2
    as far as I know, dogs don't REALLY need wet food the way cats do, but there are two reasons why one might want to not-feed just dry kibble:

    1) feeding dry kibble dramatically increases the risk of your dog getting bloat. Bloat is the #3 cause of death of older dogs. Adding table scraps, meat, or canned foods to the bowl of kibble dramatically reduces the risk of bloat.

    2) it is ludicrous to believe that we know enough about nutrition to somehow pack everything a dog needs into one bag of dry processed lumps. It is 100% certain that the stuff isn't actually complete and balanced. Dog nutritionists strongly recommend that if you are feeding commercial kibble that you a) rotate brands frequently to alter the nutritional makeup of the food, to try to make up for minor deficiencies in one brand that will be different from the minor deficiencies of another brand; and b) supplement the diet with fresh foods- try to feed 10% or so of the dog's daily calories in the form of a wide variety of fresh foods- it's easy enough to just select from the table scraps of the household for this purpose.

    For dog weight loss, the best thing to do is to feed less and exercise more. As to selecting an appropriate food, look for something with low carbohydrate content. Namely, in terms of dry kibble, look for something with a % fat of around 20% and a protein content that is very high, at least 35%, preferably higher. For a small dog, the ideal weight-loss diet is probably one of the commercial raw diets that are available- very low in carbohydrates and full of what dogs need, which is meat. For small dogs, these are very affordable. You can buy various pre-made raw diets these days that look and are handled just like kibble, so they are very easy to feed.
    For example: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...od/999276.aspx

    http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...ts/531005.aspx

    One major benefit to feeding raw is the teeth stay much cleaner- many small dogs are predisposed to dental problems, and feeding raw may reduce your dental bills vs. feeding kibble.

    if you choose to feed a dry raw diet, the comments above about benefits of adding fresh foods still apply.

    Comment


    • #3
      A good way to put a dog of any size on a diet is to (gradually) replace up to 1/2of it's food with green beans. Fresh or frozen, canned if salt free.

      Comment


      • #4
        Most of the grocery store brands are just not a decent dog food. Check out the dogfoodadvisor.com.

        I like a grain free, limited ingredient food for my dogs. Tractor Supply has a reasonably priced grain free food...4Health.

        Comment


        • #5
          Can you get Wellness? The Wellness Small Breed Healthy Weight really, really helped my 10-lb. guy when he came back from a summer with my mom weighing, well, almost double. (She literally fed him eggs for breakfast every morning...)

          Now he's on the regular Wellness Small Breed. It's good food.

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
            Most of the grocery store brands are just not a decent dog food. Check out the dogfoodadvisor.com.

            I like a grain free, limited ingredient food for my dogs. Tractor Supply has a reasonably priced grain free food...4Health.
            I agree that most grocery stores carry crap food. However, in the land of Danny Wegman, we are very spoiled. They used to carry Nature's Harmony and why I included the new food label, they also carry Castor and Pollux Organix and Natural Life foods. Plus I know DH will balk more if he can't do his one stop shopping on his week to pick up groceries...

            Comment


            • #7
              Sorry to hijack, but along the same lines...

              wendy, what 'raw material' would you recommend to supplement a dogs dry food? Also, if trying for weight loss (not much - I'm taking her to the vet tomorrow but I'm thinking ~5lbs) should I be adding the raw material to the dry food she gets or supplementing it?
              "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
              "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Heliodoro View Post
                I agree that most grocery stores carry crap food. However, in the land of Danny Wegman, we are very spoiled. They used to carry Nature's Harmony and why I included the new food label, they also carry Castor and Pollux Organix and Natural Life foods. Plus I know DH will balk more if he can't do his one stop shopping on his week to pick up groceries...
                Now, I dispute your statement. Wegman's is not a grocery store...it's heaven on earth.

                Comment

                Working...
                X