• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Cat with blocked bladder

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Cat with blocked bladder

    I need to educate myself. One of my cats, a 9 - 10 year old male, has had many health issues his whole life. (He has an enlarged heart and uncountable bouts of cystitis -- and is on lots of medication for the heart and bladder issues).

    So yesterday his bladder was completely blocked and I took him to the vet. He was unblocked and is staying at the vets. The estimate to do this was between $650 - $850 (unblocking, two nights at vets with supportive care, and flushing the bladder to try and get crystals out). Does that sound right?

    My vet told me if he reblocks they'd do the procedure again; and if he reblocked a third time then they'd do the surgery to open up the penis/urethra so he couldn't block.

    So, three times of unblocking = $2100 potentially, and then I don't know how much surgery is (guessing another $2,000)

    I'm stuck because on the one hand that is way more money than I can comfortably afford to pay on one pet, the cat is in shaky health anyway (heart -- the vet said there was a chance he would not survive the sedation etc, though he has so far), he's on the older side and finally this cat pees all over my house (we've tried many things) and as a result is confined to three rooms. On the other hand, I've never euthanized an animal for convenience or financial reasons (though I would support someone else doing so in these circumstances!).

    Any advice on what I should do? Are these typical costs? Where (if anywhere) would you draw the line?
    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peonyvodka/

  • #2
    First of all, dont panic. There are ways to medically manage a cat AFTER they are unblocked.

    If cystitis is the cause of the obstruction (not crystals or stones), a daily dose of an antiinflammatory and cosequin has been proven to help. If its stones, crystals or sludge, diet alone often helps. A strictly tin food diet is important, and possibly a dissolution diet depending on the type of crystals found.

    As for reblocking, yes there is always a chance that it will happen again. However, with proper medical management you are drastically reducing these chances.

    Here, an unblocking at the ER costs about $1500 or so, for a simple unblock. GP vets are usually much cheaper.

    Talk to your vet about your concerns, they will likely be able to help you make an educated decision.


    • Original Poster

      Thanks, Squish. He's already on cosequin and uromaxx (which I understand changes the urine's ph) for his bladder issues (and has been on them for years). We tried the prescription diet and he was so allergic to it that he wasted away to skin and bones (it got that way b/c the vet thought he had lymphoma; a petsitter just put out a big bowl of dried food instead of feeding the wet when we were away and he regained most of the weight in the few weeks we were gone).

      I guess here's another question: if he reblocks should we just go straight to the surgery? (Yes, I'll ask my vet that as well). I guess the downside is that it would be rougher on his heart.

      Thanks for responding, and pointing out he won't necessarily reblock.
      Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peonyvodka/


      • #4
        You dont necessarily read presciption diets, there are several that have different ingredients but basically a high moisture diet is the key. It takes a LOT of tin food to make up for a small amount of dry food, so if the kitty is already thin then a high calorie tin food (and lots of it) would be good. Low in Ash.

        Surgery is a personal choice. If I had a cat who has blocked twice, then yes third time into surgery he goes. However with seeing LOTS of kitties with FUS over the years, theres a large amount that do respond well to medical management second and third reblockings arent common....but not impossible.


        • Original Poster

          Thanks, Squish!

          I spoke to my vet today, who says that reblocking is much less common with them on the special diets. And I guess there are a couple to choose from, so that gives me a lot more hope that this is (hopefully) just a one-time thing. If it is then I'm happy to have spent the $$. The vet said the blockage was due to sludge, btw.
          Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peonyvodka/


          • #6
            Just going to add my personal experience with blockage.

            My male cat was VERY fat (despite always being on a carefully managed feeding plan and getting Science Diet Light at the recommendation of my vet at the time - heh). He started showing signs of having a slight blockage one day that I happened to be home from work. Luckily I was home and noticed immediately and got him to the vet ASAP. They were able to do sub q fluids and put him on a prescription diet for a week to help "flush" his system.

            This freaked me out after reading about the expense and challenge of male cats with chronic blockage issues, so I did some research. I sound like a broken record sometimes, but this site really helped me out (small animal vet with a passion for cats and their nutrition - also happens to be a horse person):


            Specific page for urinary tract health: http://catinfo.org/?link=urinarytracthealth

            I did the prescription diet for a week and then switched to Wellness grain free wet, added a water fountain to encourage drinking, and also gave him chicken or tuna water from time to time to help get him more fluids.

            The ONLY times he's ever had a mild relapse was when I switched him back to mostly dry to help out my cat sitter while on vacation.

            Anyhoo, just wanted to show that these things can be managed and managed quite well, good luck!!!


            • #7
              20 years ago did surgery - never had another issue

              Nicholas, who showed up one Christmas Eve, had recurring blockage probs and we did the surgery. He never had another problem, but did pass away from cancer at 15. At the time, the cost was probably under $800.


              • #8
                Costs seem about par. I'd consider the PU surgery now. I'd say at least a third of the cats we see here (ER veterinarian) for urinary obstruction end up as surgical candidates. With the costs involved, if surgery is an option, I'd suggest sooner rather than later. The one I'm overseeing now, waiting on surgery (past when we recommended it) cost his owner an extra $1500,


                • Original Poster

                  Thanks Marshfield. That's definitely the question I'll need to answer if he reblocks-- go straight for the surgery or unblock one more time? It would be cheaper on my pocketbook but tougher on his heart. I'll talk to my vet if that happens; in the meantime I'm not going to try and decide unless he reblocks again.

                  Thank you all of you for your responses, they've all been extremely helpful.
                  Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peonyvodka/


                  • #10
                    As has been said, if you feed an all-canned diet, especially one formulated for urinary tract health (Friskies has several flavors and is inexpensive) and make sure your cat is getting enough water, hopefully you will never see a second blockage, especially if the blockage was caused or exacerbated by crystals. The main reason that cats block is that they aren't getting enough water to flush sediment out of the bladder regularly--cats rarely drink enough water because their bodies are designed to get enough water through their diet. Dry food, even dry prescription food, does not provide this. Dry food is more calorie dense than wet, so you ill need to feed more. One of mine needs 3 5.5 ounce cans a day to maintain (though he is also diabetic), my big boy needs 1.5-2 cans. You want to look for low ash (phosphorus), which the Friskies Special Diet is. The ingredients on this are virtually the same as those in the prescription food for urinary issues. You want to avoid the flavors with gravy as they are high in carbs which can lead to diabetes and other issues.

                    Hopefully your guy will never block again. My big cat blocked completely a few years ago (and I want your vet; unblocking ran about $1500 all told) and since changing him to an all wet species-appropriate diet, he has never (knock on wood) had another blockage.