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  • #41
    Get the misconstrued dog and prove JoeShmoe wrong.

    Originally posted by Falconfree View Post
    Gosh, I would LOVE a Papillon. We played with the notion of getting one for a second dog a few years ago, but were turned down by a major rescue "because we have a big dog" (and foster big dogs). DH really wants one for our number three someday though.

    For the most part though, I'm not at all a fan of little dogs. That is likely due to my days working at Petco, when people would set their purse dogs down next to their items. I'd grab an item to scan, and get bit, and the owners would almost always LAUGH.
    Get one, train it to be awesome, and show the world! My 8lb, 11" tall Pap is not carried around stores or set on counters. Half the problems would stop if that behavior stopped .

    People are incredulous that my toy is a therapy dog and sport winner. Taught my dad's Chi two tricks and now he believes his dog is smart and is teaching him more. Win!

    Full disclosure they are delicate. Timber spent most of the hotel time this past weekend at a lure coursing event hiding in his crate because we had a 50lb dog and an active 30lb dog playing in our shared room. Off leash when big dogs run or play he glues himself to a human's heel. The rescue was being safe. I roll my eyes at households who get a Dane and a Chi: is that to garner as much attention as possible?

    Originally posted by JanM View Post
    they had to be careful about turning out groups of red/brown and the black/tan ones, because they would separate into groups by color and have little puppy rumbles complete with chasing and cornering the smaller group.
    I've heard of that. Seen a couple horses that would do the the same.

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      #42
      New experience this a.m. Movers were here to pack out my UAB. Young guys.

      Young Man A says, "Oh, is that a labradoodle?"

      Me: No, he's a standard poodle.

      Him: Really? Because he really looks like a lab.

      Me: Yep, full blooded, registered standard poodle.

      Him: Hmm. He sure looks like a lab.

      Me: Well...(looking at my lab, then at my poodle and thinking...no, he really doesn't look anything like a lab. LOL)

      Him: He sure seems like a nice dog! I really wanted a lab but my girlfriend came home with a chihuahua.



      NOTE: Just this week, I had my dog at the groomer (a first for me) and she went on and on about how he was such a great specimen, great confo, great hair coat, yada yada. AND the way he's cut right now, there is NO getting around the fact that he is a poodle. Kind of made me giggle.
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      • #43
        Falconfree-a few years ago my boss and his wife had something like 6 Papillons, and when they made their championship in the show ring, they were spayed/neutered and then became obedience champions. They were the cutest ever too.
        You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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        • #44
          As for the inter-dog discrimination, I've noticed my poodleys are drawn to other poodles. My male, especially before we turned our home into a halfway house with a revolving door, and he had yet to meet tons of dogs, was disproportionately obsessed with poodles at the dog park. My female is less discriminating and will charge anyone (eye roll. Thankfully she's easily corrected).
          Our two weimaraner fosters came from different backgrounds but before them I had never seen two dogs who have so clearly met their soulmates in each other. They are glued to each others sides all the time. It's like when you read about twins being separated at birth and later discovering they have the same extreme quirks and life experiences. Big Weimy and little Weimy are one dog with two heads.... maybe one brain between the two, but hey...

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          • #45
            ^ I've had a similar experience. Dex always makes a beeline for the other schnauzers and our wheatens gravitate towards other fluffy doodley types.

            Dex stayed with his litter until 4 months and the wheatens are male/female littermates so I guess all three dogs spent a disproportionate amount of time with one breed compared to the average dog.

            The thing that blows my mind is that schnauzers instantly go into a different play mode when they see another schnauzer. Dex goes from posturing and strutting about to airplane ears, lots of vocalization, and hoppy lateral movements. It is a night and day difference.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by To the MAX View Post
              I mean no disrespect, but I'm not a fan of poodles (and plenty of other breeds) because I don't find them *cute*. I just couldn't have a dog that I didn't like to look at... LOL. And I think besides the stereotype of them being "froo-froo dogs" a lot of people don't care for them for the same reason. But, different tastes are what makes the world go 'round. You may think my dogs are ugly as sin. But that's why I own my breed and you own yours. So what if other people don't like your choice of breed? Plenty of people think I'm insane (and they may be right, but that's a different story...) for having 2 Great Danes. If I had a nickle for every "that's not a dog, that's a horse" "who's walking who" or "scooby doo" comment I hear, I could buy, train, board, and show a Derby horse with a BNT.

              I have found, though, relating to the big dog thing...people are much more willing to approach my male dog - he is MUCH bigger than my female, and has a HUGE head and HUGE mouth, but he is a fawn and my female is black. In fact, I was walking them today and a very tiny little Amish girl walked RIGHT up to Willy's face and gave Bella a wide berth. LOL
              A poodle doesn't need to look froo froo if you don't want. My poodle has had most every haircut he could have b/c I am a groomer.
              He can go from this
              http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL481.../138216895.jpg
              (one of the first times I tried a continental trim so don't mind the mistakes haha)
              To this
              https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...06880907_n.jpg
              https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...39372115_n.jpg
              and yes, his ears are shaved
              When in this trim he tends to get a lot of 'is that a bichon' or 'he can't be purebred poodle' I also get 'oh he must just be a puppy' (he's 7 years old)
              He does NOT go in a purse, he is very friendly except for really young kids that will pull his hair or hurt him. He's highly trainable. His only real issue is barking at the door at home or at my grooming shop. He has good recall, all basic commands as well as distance commands, and many tricks.

              However, yes there are some breeds I don't like the look of that I wouldn't own. Basset Hounds come to mind.
              I LOVE poodles. One of my fave breeds. I love the froo froo look too.

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              • #47
                First of all, a Standard Poodle doesn't look a thing like a Curly Coated Retriever!

                http://puppydogweb.com/gallery/curly...etriever/e.htm

                I think the only thing they have in common is that the Standard Poodle was originally bred to be a ...
                ... curly-coated retriever (or at any rate a sporting/gun dog).

                I agree with you that "poodle" as a word does carry connotations of frou-frou little lap dogs, to some people. But what a German hunting dog has to do with laps is beyond me.

                I know men who own Poodles and these are not frou-frou guys (even the one who owned the Miniature girl Poodle). These guys aren't hunters, but the ones who own minis probably love having them be lap dogs sometimes (and bed warmers too )

                It's just a matter of educating people and ignoring the ignorant if you can't educate them. If someone thinks your Poodle is a frou-frou lap dog, then introduce them.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                  There isn't a better large dog on the planet than a well bred Spoo.
                  LOVE Standards.

                  I knew a guy who trained dogs for Hollywood; his favorite breeds to work with were (in order) Standards, and GSDs. Trainability and smarts.

                  Personally, I think it's GREAT to have an unpopular breed - it means it hasn't been ruined (yet).

                  If I ever deviate from my breed of choice, I'd get a Standard. (but I like eating corgi hair too much)

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by ElisLove View Post
                    A poodle doesn't need to look froo froo if you don't want. My poodle has had most every haircut he could have b/c I am a groomer.
                    He can go from this
                    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL481.../138216895.jpg
                    (one of the first times I tried a continental trim so don't mind the mistakes haha)
                    To this
                    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...06880907_n.jpg
                    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...39372115_n.jpg
                    and yes, his ears are shaved
                    When in this trim he tends to get a lot of 'is that a bichon' or 'he can't be purebred poodle' I also get 'oh he must just be a puppy' (he's 7 years old)
                    He does NOT go in a purse, he is very friendly except for really young kids that will pull his hair or hurt him. He's highly trainable. His only real issue is barking at the door at home or at my grooming shop. He has good recall, all basic commands as well as distance commands, and many tricks.

                    However, yes there are some breeds I don't like the look of that I wouldn't own. Basset Hounds come to mind.
                    I LOVE poodles. One of my fave breeds. I love the froo froo look too.
                    Again, no disrespect meant, but I meant *besides* them being thought of as "froo froo" they are just not cute dogs to me. No matter what haircut they have I think poodles have unattractive faces.
                    And I love basset hounds. See? Different tastes for different people.
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                    • #50
                      All breeds have some level of discrimination against them - often through "sterotypes".

                      I know Chiuahahas (sp?) that are obedience grand champions - I know Chis that are nasty little yappy things. My brother had one for hunting! (Laugh not, they are a terrier-type and Chico was awesome after rabbits .)

                      I know Bichons (sp?) that are obedience champions - I know Bichons that are nasty little yappy things. A friend has one for his daughter - it helps out on the farm moving cattle (by jumping out of the long grass and scaring them I suppose) - who is definitely not white . It acts as if it is as big as the large cattledogs used.

                      Labs are boisterous, gregarious and easy-going - yes, actually a good stereotype. My friend's lab that is used as a therapy/visiting dog and has been since he was 6 months old?? Kind, quiet, slow moving - but gregarious and easy-going - and has been like this since he was 6 months old.

                      And then my dog of choice - a BC. Hyper, highly energetic, neurotic, need to "WORK", intelligent, nervy around strangers .... then people meet my older BC - gregarious, outgoing, loves people "off switch", loves to exercise, loves to train but loves to snuggle.
                      Still Working_on_it - one day I will get it!

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