• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

When you're on the phone - dog like a little kid

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • When you're on the phone - dog like a little kid

    I have noticed it is almost infallible. My while-in-the-house-I'm-very-laid-back 6 y.o. Irish Wolfhound is now tuned into dying to go out if I'm on the phone. I swear, she can be asleep stretched out in another land, and as soon as I get on the phone, she is at the door, crying - I give her a "no" look and point back to her bed, and then she'll scratch at the door again.

    I've been really set about not letting her out to avoid conditioning this, even though she scratches the paint on the door, and I'll even drag her back to her bed - fun while trying to keep the receiver squeezed between my shoulder and ear...

    She is really a well behaved sweetheart, and very low key - except for when she's zooming around outside when we're out together which is fine. But she doesn't otherwise whine to get out at any other time. In fact, I've never had a dog who could "hold it" as long as she can, or who can be so stubborn about going out in bad weather. They're a lot like Greyhounds that way.

    But tonight it is 30 degrees and pouring rain out, and both times I've been on the phone, she's been at the door within 60 seconds. I'm on a portable phone, not a cell. I wonder if there is some kind of frequency that triggers it? Although after the call is through, and I let her out the door, she's done her business both times... I've noticed this now for a couple of weeks.

    Anyone else ever see this? Had labs for years and years and none of them ever did this.
    But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. H.C.Anderson

  • #2
    Mine don't ask to go out but it seems to never fail that when I get on the phone my two Dobes decide it's wrestle mania time with one on each end of the loudest squeeky tug toy they can find...


    • #3
      At some point you probably unknowingly reinforced the pattern. Phone rang, coincidentally she asked to go out at the same time, or shortly thereafter. You let her out. It might have happened only twice, and now she has the pattern down. Classic conditioning at work. Bell rings, dog scratches at door, dog get attention, dog goes outside. Happy dog.

      If it were me I would practice with some fake phone calls. Call your home phone from your cell or vice versa - either way, make sure she hears it ring. You pick it up and start talking. Just talk to yourself and laugh as if you were on a real phone call.

      When she starts begging to go out, totally IGNORE her. Don't point or say NO or give her a look, or drag her to her bed, or anything. Do not enforce her demand for attention at ALL. Even negative attention is still attention.

      Talk on the phone for 5 minutes, then say "Bye" and hang up. Don't even look at her. Go on about your business cleaning or watching TV or whatever. Then in another 5 minutes, get on the phone again.

      Just keep repeating until she realizes that when you are on the phone, she gets totally IGNORED. No eye contact, finger point, head shake, NOTHING.

      Normally I like giving lots of treats for good behavior but in this case, the only behavior to reward would be her laying on her bed quietly. And you don't want her to start begging for treats when you're on the phone either. If you try to reward her for laying on her bed, you will reinforce to her that phone rings = she gets food. So in this case I think I would choose to ignore her and not reinforce the behavior.

      She will have to learn that begging to go outside while you're on the phone is a totally dead end.


      • #4
        It's an Irish thing. I'm sure of it now that you posted this. My Irish Setter does the same thing. Ha! She goes nuts if she sees me on the phone outside. I can be inside talking on the phone and she's fine, go out to the deck and she attacks the door like wolverine.

        She also can hold it in bad weather. I swear she will hold it for 3 days if it is raining outside! She just stands there and blinks at me in the rain. She won't pee in the house but must have a bladder that takes up half her body weight!!

        Seriously it's those weird Irish dogs. Sorry I can't be of any help other than to commiserate with you. They're Irish . . .. they're weird. There's your answer.
        Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!!


        • #5
          It's a household pet thing, particularly noticable when one is home alone. The talking into the phone without another person in sight disturbs some cats and dogs and others don't care one way or another; the ones with odd reactions think you are talking to them. Just attention seeking on their parts.
          Founder of the Dyslexic Clique. Dyslexics of the world - UNTIE!!

          Member: Incredible Invisbles


          • #6
            Have you had the same reaction with a cell phone or one of the "old-style" phones that actually attach you to the wall? I'm wondering if you might be onto something about the frequency.

            The reason I ask is because my dog Simon ALWAYS lets me know when my cell phone is about to ring a split second before it actually does. When he cocks his head and stares at it, ears alert, I know it's going to start going off. I've seen him do this when the phone is still in my purse - he'll suddenly fixate on the purse, and sure enough I hear muffled ringing a half-second later.


            • #7
              Chaos in my house

              I wish I could talk on the phone like a normal person. I have to go into the bathroom with the cordless and shut the door. It's like having a bunch of toddlers.


              • #8
                My 14 year old yorkie will bark and howl the whole time I'm on the phone. He knows that if he makes enough noise I'll give him a treat to shut him up. Yeah, I'm well trained.

                My husband does it too....he can walk past me 100 times without saying a word, but let me be on the phone and he's Mr. Chatterbox. I haven't figured out a way to shut him up yet though.
                "My biggest fear is that when I die my husband is going to try to sell all my horses and tack for what I told him they cost."


                • #9
                  PRS, throw him a beer! It just might work!
                  Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!!


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HPFarmette View Post
                    I wish I could talk on the phone like a normal person. I have to go into the bathroom with the cordless and shut the door. It's like having a bunch of toddlers.

                    My husband works from home. If he and I talk our mixed pack of two chi's and one old JRT are quiet. The nanno second he starts a business call the dogs will start whining. Kick them out of his office (they spend all day at his feet) and shut the door and one chi barks at him. It's all fun and games until someone in the conference from NYC says "hey, does anyone else hear a dog barking?"