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Older female dog - mystery "ailment"

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    Older female dog - mystery "ailment"

    COTHers - I have a bit of a head-scratcher on some health-related things I've noticed with one of my dogs.

    About her: Flat Coated Retriever 7 year old female

    Over the past year or so there have been two increasingly present issues that have appeared.
    1) Change in pooping patterns
    This is a dog who has always been a "multi-pooper" in the sense that on her daily walk she'll go multiple times (2-3x) but usually within pretty short succession and with the same poop consistency. What has changed over the past months is that she'll now go 6+ times spread out over the entire course of the walk and the poops go from normal solid to liquidy throughout the course of those 6+ bowel movements. To the point that by poop 3 or so, you don't even bother trying to pick it up with a bag anymore because it's just not possible.

    2) Drastic increased interest from male dogs (and only males)
    This dog has been spayed since ~8 months and never got any out of the ordinary attention from male dogs. Over the last months (I'd say at least a year), males will follow her trying to lick her 'nether regions'. Young intact males are far and away the worst culprits, but even older neutered dogs will do it to the shock of their owners who drag them away exclaiming how unlike their dog that behavior is.
    My poor girl is the most shy submissive thing but over the course of the year has become increasingly confident at telling dogs to bugger off because she has had to the attention is so universal.

    In the 7 years we've had this dog we've seen just about every stomach parasite you can imagine as this girl gets into everything and has the most sensitive "princess" stomach I have ever seen of a dog - but I have never seen anything that resembled what we're seeing now. Usually when she's gotten worms/giardia/stomach parasites it's obvious because she looks unhealthy - coat gets limp and dull, energy goes down, appetite increases, etc. But she looks and acts great! Her coat is shiny and thick, she has lots of energy (like back to 3 year old levels!), she's always happy to eat but she's not tearing the house down after's just bizarre!

    She's been to the vet - anal glands empty, fecal looks fine. Next step is to start pulling blood but what are we looking for? Vet is being fairly unresponsive and useless and blaming it on COVID. I'm applying more pressure but since she's acting healthy I think they aren't really fussed about it.

    Any ideas??

    Check for epilepsy. A friend's neutered bich started having your #2 issue when she started fitting as, apparently, she smelt on heat. First few months were "micro" ... found with the first grand-mal seizure!
    Still Working_on_it - one day I will get it!


      I have had bitches whose only sign of a UTI was that males were seriously sexually interested in them. Apparently the change in the pH of the urine can be detected by males and convince them that they are in heat. Antibiotics cured it.

      I’ve also had litters of puppies that were bright-eyed, plump, glossy-coated, playful and full of energy, but who had entirely liquid poop caused by intestinal parasites such as giardiasis or coccidia. Nothing would show up on the repeated fecals, but treatment was initiated and worked. Seems to me it was three to five days of something like fenbendazole. Some of these parasites are hard to catch unless you do daily fecals, because eggs are only shed periodically. Have also used Tylan powder for some of these mystery parasites and that worked very well, tiny dose.

      Of course a vet would have to advise and prescribe.

      I know with Flat Coats you are always thinking about cancer, but hopefully these are relatively simple problems to fix. These bugs are everywhere in the environment and if you have a dog that likes to ingest things, it is not surprising that they pick things up.

      Good luck and please keep us posted!


        I agree that there may be an issue with urinary tract. The other possibility is a uterine stump infection causing both physical discomfort when voiding and the male dog interest.

        If you vet is uninterested then you should probably seek help from a second vet, perhaps an internal med specialist. If it is a stump pyo , it is usually a hard diagnose and a surgical repair
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          I recently got a 2 yr old female from a southern state. Within a few weeks, her #2 turned to soft-serve/watery diarrhea. She had already been to the vet for a full workup (blood, fecal, vaccs, heartworm test). Nothing unusual. We started her on metronidazole and fenbendazole (Panacur or Safeguard) anyway, and it cleared up within 24 hours. Unfortunately have had to do repeat rounds of meds as these buggers can be stubborn. I've heard the only reliable giardia test is an ELISA, sent to lab that tests for the antigens vs current cysts in a fecal for the reason Houndhill states.

          BTW: coat never looked dull, or lacking in appetite/energy. She did have quite bad breath for a young dog with a good looking mouth. Have learned that this is a sign of intestinal distress.
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            Original Poster

            Thank you all! I'm taking each of these to the vet to start working through the suggestions and hopefully we'll sort the poor girl out.

            Turns out our vet has a high risk COVID individual in their house so are not practicing at all at this time, which explains why it's been hard to get an appointment - the other vets in the practice are sharing the load but are completely swamped. I may look into another practice but she's only ever been to this one (and only ever seen "her" vet). Ugh this d*** virus!!

            I'll come back with an update once we have one!


              She's not spayed?
              Could there be an ovarian/uterine cyst or mass feeding off estrogen or other hormone issue causing increased hormones? Like Thyroid, pituitary...?
              I would think that would be easy to find with a simple blood draw that is looked at for increased levels?
              Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014



                Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                She's not spayed?
                From the original post:

                Originally posted by EventingMaff View Post

                2) Drastic increased interest from male dogs (and only males)[INDENT]This dog has been spayed since ~8 months and never got any out of the ordinary attention from male dogs.


                  I'll 3rd or 4th the suggestion of an intestinal parasite like giarrdia. 5-7 day Panacur otc treatment cleared it up. But they can turn around and get re-infected the next week.
                  Dogs can pick this up from so many sources and in my area it seems to be a recurring problem.
                  "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin


                    I am going with UTI or kidney issue. I have an older, spayed bitch and two intact males. My bitch has been dx with decreased kidney function and one of my males is definitely more interested in her than he should be given her age and lack of hormones.