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  • Foster dog had 11 puppies

    We picked up an emergency foster dog a week ago. They called and said it was urgent, she was pregnant and due any day and they didn't want her to give birth at the shelter. This is my first time fostering. I do not have any other pets in the house but am on a 20-acre horse farm.

    She woke me up nice and early this morning to go potty, and shortly after coming inside she started whelping. I thought she was done after seven pups. She napped, was quiet, showed no more signs of being in labor. About five hours went by and no more came, so I assumed she was done. I went into my bedroom to give her some space, and came out 1.5 hours later to four more puppies. So there are 11 puppies. For all I know she still isn't done.
    There were two stillborn, sadly, so she actually birthed 13.

    Not gonna lie, I am a bit overwhelmed. I did some research, she's on the large end of a medium sized dog, boxer-type-mix, average litter size 5-8, sounded doable so I was game. Eleven is ... wow. What do you do with that many puppies? Where do I put them, how do I contain them once they start walking? I'm trying to tell myself, take it one step at a time, it'll be three weeks before they're walking so I have time to figure out a better space for them, how to handle outside, etc. At six weeks I have to take them in to get vaccinated - 12 dogs in the car! I have an Expedition but I mean... do I ask the shelter to give me a gigantic transport crate? Use the horse trailer??

    Any advice would be much appreciated!
    Last edited by mmeqcenter; May. 22, 2020, 09:33 PM.

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    Wow! I've been following a family that fostered a mother dog just before she had puppies and they're just getting to the end of their journey with them! The owner of the Instagram account has really used her account to get supplies to the puppies and get the word out about them. they've been fielding adoption requests for weeks now.

    https://www.instagram.com/shesabrick.house/

    If you haven't already and can get out, get some tarps, blankets, start stocking up on puppy pads. Maybe even a big kiddy pool to keep them contained. Then you're going to have to find a gate system that you can keep them corraled when they start walking!

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    • #3
      OH, wow! Congrats, foster mom!

      She will definitely need some extra calories, and with 11, you will probably need to bottle feed the smaller ones to be sure they get enough to eat. Sometimes the runts can get knocked out of the way by the bigger pups and don't thrive. Be prepared. They will probably need supplemented every 2-3 hours for a couple of weeks. Maybe not every feeding, but keep an eye on them.

      A crate isn't a bad idea - when they're a bit older - for transporting them, but I would take them in stages, 3 or 4 at a time, if it were me. At six weeks, they'll survive being away from mum for a bit.

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      • #4
        no help here but THANK YOU so much for helping these poor critters. Wonderful, generous deed you're doing.
        "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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          Thanks all! Yep I’m getting formula today. At least I have three weeks to figure out what to do with 11 walking puppies

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          • #6
            wow 13 huh.... wonder how many different dads, the hussy.

            I took in a pregnant cat then the she died and left the kittens - after purchasing expensive formula I found out you can use goat milk (had a goat farm just down the rd. Dang it)

            Have the video ready. It is sure to be a comedy! My mom used an old wooden playpen for pups, but 11 you'll need a kennel.
            The cue card kid just held up an empty cue card. For a minute there I thought I had lost my sense of humor. --- Red Skelton

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            • #7
              We're gonna need pictures. You'll need the equivalent of a mini horse round pen to contain them all. Or maybe some short picket fence partitions to temporarily hinge together. ??
              Lots of metal puppy playpens on Amazon like these. Or do you have an xtra room or bathroom to give them?
              https://petlifetoday.com/best-dog-an...door-playpens/
              "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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              • #8
                That's gonna be a houseful! When I read this I immediately flashed back to when I was involved in showing dogs. Mikail Barishnikov (sp?) had a Standard Poodle bitch that he had bred. She gave birth to 12 puppies! In a NYC apartment - okay a penthouse, but still! There were some frantic calls from his staff as the puppies got older. They had to be evaluated for show quality before any were placed and they were driving everyone crazy.

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                • #9
                  I can remember going to see a clients golden retriever bitch with her puppies,at least 8. The owner had blocked off a large stall in the basement with boards high enough to contain the clumsy puppies and had put down straw over a plastic liner. The boards were high enough to contain the pups but the bitch could come and go easily. For now, perhaps a kiddies wading pool will do. large enough for the bitch to lay out but will contain the puppies.
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                    Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
                    We're gonna need pictures. You'll need the equivalent of a mini horse round pen to contain them all. Or maybe some short picket fence partitions to temporarily hinge together. ??
                    Lots of metal puppy playpens on Amazon like these. Or do you have an xtra room or bathroom to give them?
                    https://petlifetoday.com/best-dog-an...door-playpens/
                    We have some leftover wire horse fencing I can fashion a pen outside with. I'm more concerned with what to do with them inside we don't have a huge house! We are leaning towards completely emptying out our foyer (tile floor) and keeping them in there. It is about 6-8" lower than the rest of the house and only one doorway into the house so can easily block that off and contain them.

                    They have the mom down as a boxer mix, no clue what she bred with.

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                    • #11
                      Aww adorable, but yeah then need an area with the whelping pen and with that many you should supplement feed every few hours. Too bad about the two stillborns. I am suprised a vet didn't know she wasn't done having puppies! That is a lot for one momma.

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                        Originally posted by Callista17 View Post
                        Aww adorable, but yeah then need an area with the whelping pen and with that many you should supplement feed every few hours. Too bad about the two stillborns. I am suprised a vet didn't know she wasn't done having puppies! That is a lot for one momma.
                        I’m not a vet.
                        I asked the shelter I am fostering her for how many they expected, they didn’t know.

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                        • #13
                          Laurierace is a veteran foster and puppy person so she probably has some ideas for you.

                          Congrats on the super cute pups!

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                          • #14
                            WOW what a brood!! I'd be contacting Embark DNA (Cornell) and see if they would donate the tests for some of the babies as it would make it much easier to get them new homes later. It'd be great PR for them and would generate some
                            public interest in their testing. It's just a saliva swab, easy to do.
                            Let me know if you'd like to do that and if you want, I'll volunteer to contact them as I'm a repeat customer having tested my rescue.
                            "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
                              WOW what a brood!! I'd be contacting Embark DNA (Cornell) and see if they would donate the tests for some of the babies as it would make it much easier to get them new homes later. It'd be great PR for them and would generate some
                              public interest in their testing. It's just a saliva swab, easy to do.
                              Let me know if you'd like to do that and if you want, I'll volunteer to contact them as I'm a repeat customer having tested my rescue.
                              Oooh what a great idea! If you wouldn't mind, I'd really appreciate it! PM me for any information you need

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                                Tried to bottle feed some of the smaller puppies last night and none of them would take it. Any tricks?

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by mmeqcenter View Post
                                  Tried to bottle feed some of the smaller puppies last night and none of them would take it. Any tricks?
                                  They are too little to bottle feed and would need to be tube fed. Unfortunately for a non-experienced breeding a litter this size is hard. It doesn't matter if the puppies are small, if they are all gaining. Some will be bigger than others. So you may not have to tube feed them, but it's really hard to know if you're not weighing them every day.

                                  I would see what resources you can find in your local community -- dog breeders will help you. Do you have them in a whelping box now? I would get in touch with your vet (or better yet, a repro vet if there is one in the area). They would probably know some experienced breeders who might be able to lend equipment and actual hands on help.

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                                  • #18
                                    Here's a way to feed new borns that are too small to bottle feed, if you don't want to tube feed

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm4KdHiRsnM

                                    Once they start walking exercise pens can be great to contain them in your foyer. Just make sure the flooring is something that is not slippery so they can get traction. Yoga mat type work great.
                                    https://www.chewy.com/frisco-wire-do...SABEgI0tfD_BwE

                                    A scale for daily weights is great-because yes small is ok as long as gaining daily. I would reach out to the shelter for supplies, see if they can help.

                                    They are adorable!

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jreventer View Post
                                      Here's a way to feed new borns that are too small to bottle feed, if you don't want to tube feed

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm4KdHiRsnM

                                      Once they start walking exercise pens can be great to contain them in your foyer. Just make sure the flooring is something that is not slippery so they can get traction. Yoga mat type work great.
                                      https://www.chewy.com/frisco-wire-do...SABEgI0tfD_BwE

                                      A scale for daily weights is great-because yes small is ok as long as gaining daily. I would reach out to the shelter for supplies, see if they can help.

                                      They are adorable!
                                      Thank you! The shelter is who gave me the bottles and milk replacer I'll have to call them again on Tuesday and do what I can until them. I did get three to take about 5 mL each today. I have a kitchen scale I can start weighing them with. I think the shelter is more concerned about the mom feeding that than the puppies having problems. That is draining!

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                                      • #20
                                        Congratulations! No good deed goes unpunished. Step one you need a baby pool and a pen. The pen can wait a bit but helps confine Mama too who undoubtedly will have diarrhea.
                                        Unless the mom doesn’t have milk you shouldn’t need to supplement but you do need to supervise. When I had a litter of 12 with 11 surviving GSD/Great Pyrenees puppies I literally spent a week sitting in that pool with them. I had a basket outside the pool and I rotated them. When a puppy stopped nursing or fell asleep they got put in the basket. When everyone is in the basket you start over again. It sounds awful and to be honest it is but it’s not as bad as tube or bottle feeding 11 puppies and much less risk of aspiration. I started mine on a slurry or canned puppy food and raw goats milk at 12 weeks old because Mama was emaciated so it helped take some of the burden off of her.
                                        I would be happy to help either by this thread or PM, whichever you prefer if you like. That big litter just about killed me not going to lie so I now have a weight limit for my pregnant fosters. I have a chiweenie and her three almost 2 week old puppies here right now that are much easier on my body.
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