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Moochie - no longer the Hermaphrodite Cat

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  • Moochie - no longer the Hermaphrodite Cat

    So there is this neighborhood cat. The neighbors across the road boot it out of the house in the summer and do not leave food or water out. For the second summer in a row it's mooching food from the neighborhood and living off the land. Their tenant was feeding it until she broke up with her boyfriend and moved out two weeks ago. We noticed the cat was "starving, fed it and finally tracked down the "owner" neighbor to see what was up and she lays no claim to it anymore. Says it never comes home and she doesn't "know how to make it my cat anymore except to lock it in the house" and the boyfriend hates the cat so that's not an option. So we said that if she is abandoning it then we would take it to the vet and find it a home. She said she was fine with that. She didn't remember when he had been to the vet last (if ever). Great - sure, take the unwanted cat off my hands so I don't have to be responsible - thankyouverymuch.

    So the cat's original name is Jiggs. The neighbor refers to him as "he". Said yes he is neutered. But then again I wouldn't trust her if she told me the sky was blue. Last night Jiggs (aka Mr. Moochie) went to the vet. He rode in my lap in the car just fine. Got his vaccinations. Tested negative for FIV. Got a flea medication. The works.

    Before we left I asked the vet if he could confirm that this is for sure a neutered male. A potential new home would certainly want to know that. Because that was what we were told but we weren't completely sure. I couldn't find a spay scar, and if it was an unspayed female I'd never seen her in heat and she has been at large for three years and never had a litter of kittens. That doesn't seem likely. So I was willing to subscribe to the neutered male theory.

    The vet and the vet tech went to examining the boy/girl parts in great detail. Took him/her in the back, shaved his/her belly looking for a spay scar. And declared Jiggs an unspayed female. For sure. Okey dokey then.

    Today my husband went and talked to the tenant whose girlfriend had been feeding the cat before she dumped him and moved out and said that we've now been told that Jiggs was a female. He said he remembered something about them getting the kitten, taking it to be neutered, and it was a cryptorchid so they couldn't get him neutered, OK. Well that's a possibility. I believe that over the abstinent female theory.

    I'm confused....
    Last edited by SmartAlex; Sep. 6, 2019, 08:24 AM.
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    My husband and I agreed that at this point in our lives we don't want the commitment of an indoor cat. Last night because the cat had just had vaccinations and would probably feel crappy we left the side door ajar so it could come in from the rain but it did not take us up on that. And I just now came out of the shower and my husband was giving the cat a tour of the house....



    As you can see, Moochie is pretty comfortable with my husband

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    • #3
      I am really enjoying this new cat story ~

      Congratulations on your new CAT !
      Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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      • #4
        Congratulations on your new kitty!

        Now you have to start singing Minnie the Moocher everytime he/she is basking in your "we don't want an indoor cat" tone of voice.
        Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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          Zu Zu and CanadianTrotter - yeah it looks like we have a new cat. My husband has been so torn up about this. I know if someone offers to take him/her, my husband will feel like he's betraying the cat. We're half way down the slippery slope already. We were going to set Moochie up in the empty chicken coop. It is insulated and has a cat sized door, rubber floor mats - that would be perfect for an in/out cat. But my husband has decided he'll be more comfortable in the side porch so he wouldn't be lonely. When Moochie showed up for breakfast this morning he got invited right into the kitchen...


          I'd just like to know whether to refer to It as He or She.

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          • #6
            Well, if Moochie is ‘in’ for breakfast

            CanadianTrotter and I will be there for Sunday Brunch ~

            * no need to worry about menu specifics we like EVERYTHING
            Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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            • #7
              oh what a delightful story and your husband is a peach in my book. So does Moochie need neutering or not?
              "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
                So does Moochie need neutering or not?
                Apparently not - for whichever reason... At this point I would hate to subject him to a spay procedure with my vet if she's a he.

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                • #9
                  So if he's actually a crypto, and possibly a double crypto at that, and hasn't been neutered (that's a load of bull from the neighbor, BTW), then he's probably an intact male with the fellas running around inside.

                  My tiniest little Tiny Baby Fiend was a double crypto. At 5 months, he underwent what we thought was a normal spay because we THOUGHT he was a girl. He was under for almost 45 minutes - we finally got them both, thank God, because I found out later that cryptos stand something like a 99% chance of getting cancer. So I would ask the vet about the possibility that Moochie is an un-neutered double crypto.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zu Zu View Post
                    Well, if Moochie is ‘in’ for breakfast

                    CanadianTrotter and I will be there for Sunday Brunch ~

                    * no need to worry about menu specifics we like EVERYTHING
                    Except for Aaaaaavacaaadoooos!
                    Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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                      Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post

                      Apparently not - for whichever reason... At this point I would hate to subject him to a spay procedure with my vet if she's a he.
                      Maybe a thorough ultrasound is in order?

                      When she is being a Priss Queen call her Minnie and when he is being a Pushover Teddy Bear call him Moochie. If he/she does have both parts does that give "them" a dual personality? Maybe Gemeni would be a more suitable name?
                      Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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                        The verdict is in: Moochie is a male.
                        My husband finally ran the "owner" to ground yesterday. She had been avoiding us for a week, but he's a retired police sergeant so he's hard to shake. He gave her a copy of the vet bill for her records, told her we have his rabies tag etc. Then he said "you gotta tell me something" and explained the confusion over the sex.

                        She said that yes he is a male, and yes he is neutered. They took him to one of the Humane Societies spay/neuter clinics. The vet that neutered him was worried about urinary blockages, so he also widened his urethra. So that could explain my vet's confusion over the appearance of his boy parts.

                        Moochie finally consented to spend the night in our (enclosed) side porch. My husband had put a blanket up on the back of the old school house desk we have there which really is a perfect spot, up off the floor and near a window. He had put Mooch up there during the day and Mooch took a cat nap, but DH was unsure if Mooch knew he was supposed to go up there on his own to sleep. He's such a city boy! He has no animal training skills.

                        Last night at dusk, I took a couple of kitty treats, tapped on the bed and told Mooch "Come up-up" and he hopped right up there on his own, ate his treats, and sat there and watched us through the kitchen door for awhile. Then he curled up and went to sleep. My husband was so delighted. He looked at me like I'd just invented fire or something. "How do you do that?"

                        Today Mooch gets his dewormer. He's already looking better and is less itchy. He's put on at least a pound. The vet weighed him in at 5.1 pounds and that was after we had been feeding him for two weeks. After he eats his supper, he goes out and lays in the middle of the driveway in the sun, flat on his back stretching his toes to the sun. He's a goofball

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                        • #13
                          The case of the Gender Bending Mooch has been solved!!!

                          I want an update picture when your hubby gets him up to 10lbs.!

                          I love hearing the success stories of clever kitties winning over men.
                          Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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                            Oooooh, just an afterthought...

                            Now you have a real black cat to work into your upcoming Autumn/Halloween decorating ideas!
                            Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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                            • #15
                              A very happy and handsome opportunist = CAT !

                              Enjoy !
                              Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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                                Originally posted by CanadianTrotter View Post
                                Oooooh, just an afterthought...

                                Now you have a real black cat to work into your upcoming Autumn/Halloween decorating ideas!
                                I know. I admire him every time he strikes a pose. He's great background atmosphere. Like many people, I'd never go out looking to acquire a black cat, but as far as black cats go he's really pretty. I don't think he'll ever make ten pounds. He's a square little guy with a plushy thick coat and brown shading. I've always liked his little brown goatee.

                                My husband just called. We turned him out this morning and closed the storm door, but when my husband returned from his errands Mooch was sitting on the steps and wanted re-entry to the porch so my husband propped open the door and opened the window next to his bed so he could lay in the sun and catch a breeze.

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                                • #17
                                  I think that ole softee husband has a new best friend. How charming for an ex-police sargeant. I think Mooch has put
                                  some super glues on his paws and won't be running too far off from now on. Great Update!
                                  "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                                  • #18
                                    Just remember when you get closer to Halloween Moochie needs to be inside all of the time.

                                    I'm so glad the two of you rescued him, and are giving him a forever home. And if the old owner gets run over by a bus, it's absolutely karma. My guess, when the weather cools off, you should make room for an addition to your bedroom.
                                    You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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