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    You guys all cheered me on when I rescued Puddin', and I am still glad I did. She was living with the ferals at my sisters. We knew she wasn't feral as she let us pick her up. Turned out she had been owned by my sister's neighbor who passed away. her heirs threw her out and she lived outside for a year and a half.
    She has been here since Mid March, and while she has become pretty attached to me, she detests the other cats. And of course, the dog. She will attack the cats Dickens will flee, but Bug has been engaging and fighting back. She spends all the time by herself, lying on the clean towels in a corner, or on a chair, or even the dining room table. She likes being on my lap, but if I move a muscle, she whines or growls. she growls a lot.
    I needed a new storm door on the back as the old one was destroyed by the wind in the spring. I invested in a doggy door, and everyone loves it except-Puddin'. She simply cannot figure out how it works. She WANTS to be sweet, but she is a nasty tempered old thing. Oh yes, she is 10 years old so not likely to soften up. I would desperately like to find a soft spot for her to land, but it would have to be with no other pets. And of course, everyone I know is loaded up with pets.
    Do any of you have any suggestions?
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  • #2
    I suggest you find a good cat rescue that will be honest about her personality and needs and find her the proper home she needs instead of passing her off to another place where she may not fit in. You seem to have a lot of difficulty with taking in unsuitable pets that are becoming unhappy or killed, maybe stick with the pets that are actually getting along and leave your pet number at that?

    I hope Puddin finds the right home that she needs, good luck.
    Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women


    • Original Poster

      thanks for an honest answer. I am perfectly willing to keep her, but she just hates on my cats. After 5 months, I was really hoping she would calm down. I will not send her to the shelter though. I will tell them about her. and see what they think I guess.
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      • #4
        It didn't sound like you're willing to keep her when you said...

        . I would desperately like to find a soft spot for her to land,
        I didn't say a shelter. A cat rescue is not a shelter, the ones I know of will look for a good home while the cat is still with the current home, put them with a temporary foster or in a kennel until they're adopted.

        Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women


        • #5
          What have you tried?

          Has she been to the vet for a work up to determine if she's in pain somewhere?

          Are you using the multicat feliway diffuser?

          Have you tried something like prozac?

          Placing a temperamental older cat will be pretty difficult.


          • Original Poster

            Simkie, I am somewhat ignorant of Feliway diffuser. I have never given anything like Prozac to a pet. I took her to the vet when I got her. She was in amazingly good shape for having been living outside for the last year and a half. She does have food anxiety. I feed her in the bathroom. I split a can of cat food in the morning and a big scoop of kibble in the evening. She seems fine until she sees my other two cats. She growls at them constantly, and will occasionally attack them. I do have a pretty small house, so there aren't a lot of places for her to be. But she gets up on the table, and I leave her there. She has adopted a chair that the boys don't lie on. I just feel bad about this. I do not really want to get rid of her, but I would like her to at least tolerate the other two. I am not sure where I would even find a cat rescue. I figure she can stay here, but if a person could be found, I would be relieved.
            Thank you two for your suggestions. I will look up the Feliway diffuser.

            I am a little concerned about plugin things that are not electric devices. I remember a while back those scented plugins caused a few fires. I am sure it has probably been taken care of by now, but I don't think I would want to leave the house with one plugged in. Is that crazy?
            Last edited by Larksmom; Aug. 17, 2019, 12:22 AM. Reason: OK, I looked up the diffuser.
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            • #7
              No, it's not crazy at all. I would feel the same way.

              You remind me of a friend of mine who took in a shelter cat, then went out and bought a pair of very expensive littermate kittens. They have never gotten along with the shelter cat, and she does not get along with them. Fortunately they have a huge house to share with each other and their sole human. They have all been together for nearly 10 years and are doing OK.

              Puddin has barely been with you for 6 months, after living on her own, by her wits, for 3 times that long, after losing her human and being thrown out by a pair of jackasses. She is still dealing with PTSD and I think she is doing great -- and so are you! -- that she gets in your lap at all. I think that is really cool of both of you.

              Give her time. If you find the perfect human for her, that would be great, but I wouldn't be in a hurry. A year and a half is a very long time in the life of a cat, and God only knows what her "life" was like for that year and a half (I am not taking God's name in vain; He and she are the only ones who know). She can't even tell you about it; she can only growl and whine.

              Please just keep loving on her and give her time.

              Rack on!


              • #8
                I think we discussed this when you first got her, she needs her own space where she can feel safe and access to a litter box without having to run the gauntlet of the other cats to get to it.

                Not all cats get along, some merely tolerate each other but if they're only growling and swatting at each other that's cat politics, not attacks. My Ella the Queen Torbie growls/hisses at all of my other cats except for Rotten Ralph, they adore each other. She even hisses at me once in awhile when she's underfoot and I tell her to move out of the way, it's how she communicates. Don't mistake cat language and politics for aggressive anger or attacks. Even Ralph(the best ginger man in the world) will do a clean sweep through the house to reassert his dominance once every month or so. He gives all of the other cats a swat in the head with a stern meow just to make sure they all remember who's the boss.

                You've only had her for 6 months and unless there are full on attacks give her time to continue to adjust. In a household of multiple cats there will always be an active pecking order that will be challenged all of the time. Unless there is excessive bullying, fur flying and possible injuries I let them work it out themselves.

                If you believe Puddin will be better off with someone else with no other pets then contact a reputable cat rescue and get her put onto their list for a home to find.
                Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women


                • Original Poster

                  Well, thanks, guys. I don't really want to get rid of her. I am just wondering if she would be happier somewhere else with no other pets. But you are probably correct in that finding a home for an old grump would be difficult. I will not cast her out in any case and today I will go get some of the Feliway stuff and hope for the best.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Larksmom View Post
                    thanks for an honest answer. I am perfectly willing to keep her, but she just hates on my cats. After 5 months, I was really hoping she would calm down. I will not send her to the shelter though. I will tell them about her. and see what they think I guess.
                    She was fine as an outdoor cat at your sisters. Can she not be an outdoor cat at your place? Barn cats live a good life too. It isn't right that she turn the life of your 2 cats upside down. They were there first.


                    • Original Poster

                      When I find her by the door, I open it. She scurries out. It rained pretty hard yesterday, and she wants no part of that. I have discovered to my dismay that we have raccoons in the neighborhood and I am not anxious for them to meet any of my animals. This is a BIG raccoon. If it doesn't cause me any real trouble I will not call animal control on it. I encourage her to go out believe me. But she does like being in the house. I just wish she would learn how to use the pet door!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Larksmom View Post
                        When I find her by the door, I open it. She scurries out. It rained pretty hard yesterday, and she wants no part of that. I have discovered to my dismay that we have raccoons in the neighborhood and I am not anxious for them to meet any of my animals. This is a BIG raccoon. If it doesn't cause me any real trouble I will not call animal control on it. I encourage her to go out believe me. But she does like being in the house. I just wish she would learn how to use the pet door!
                        You need to show her how to use the pet door.

                        Pick her up(if she likes that) for hugs and cuddles, get her relaxed whether in your arms or on the floor near the pet door. Then slowly and calmly open the door with one hand and coax or push her out with the other hand. Then go outside and repeat showing her how to go back in, have treats available for encouragement and praise her each time she goes through the door. Do this several times a day and each time you do it leave the flap in a more closed position so she learns to use her head to open it.

                        Youve had lots of cats if I remember correctly, you should know how to train them. Each cat is different and it may take a lot of trial and error but persistence will do it.

                        She lived outdoors near your house didn't she? She probably knows about that coon and knows how to avoid it, plus cats can run faster than they can and I believe the majority of coons would avoid getting scratched by any cat. All of the coons I've had experience with avoid confrontations and don't go around attacking other animals unless they feel threatened.
                        Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women


                        • Original Poster

                          OK, thank you, CT. I have always had cats, yes, I just never thought about TRAINING them. Well, maybe off the counters and such. But I will work on her with the door. I do think she would be happier if she could go out more regularly. It really would be good for her. I will start tomorrow. I did order the Feliway from Chewy today. I wanted to buy it locally but it was twice as much at Petco.
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                          • #14
                            Slightly off topic, but PetCo will match prices if you need something ASAP. That being said, Chewy’s customer service can not be beat.
                            Sayeth Traum:
                            I hate it when I injury myself trying to do something unspecified


                            • #15
                              If you decide not to contact a rescue for her, can you add vertical spaces to your place? Shelves on the wall, cat tree, window perch, etc?

                              Sometimes that helps with space and different ways and places for them to hang out.


                              • #16
                                I rescued a similar cat, she would viciously attack my other cats, even if they were sleeping in an out of the way spot. She even pushed one of my cats off a balcony.

                                I rehomed her with a friend who only had one cat in a much bigger house, with the hope that a one cat household would be better. He sent her back after a week.

                                I rehomed her again with some friends with a horse barn. She seems very happy there and they'd had her there for a few years, she's still terrible with other cats but it's a massive barn and she has the loft while the other cats have the floor.


                                • Original Poster

                                  Well, I carefully pushed her out the doggie door yesterday. She scooted off immediately. I left her out, she hadn't been out for a few days, so I thought it would be good for her. after a few hours, I chirped to her to come in, and she sprinted toward me. At that moment, Bug came thru the door. she took one look at him, turned tail and ran off again. I will try again. It would be easier to keep the dog and other cats inside, (close off the doggie door, but that would defeat the purpose of putting her out.)
                                  I have thought about my two friends that still have horses but they do not have large barns and many critters. I figure I can stand it if the boys can. I do not want to send her off. You know once they are out of your hands, you just don't know what will become of them. So unless a really great situation should appear, I guess she is mine.
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                                  • #18
                                    Is she out during this severe, ongoing heat advisory ?!!!
                                    after having been an indoor cat since Mid-March ?!
                                    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


                                    • Original Poster

                                      No dear, she is in now. But she was out Sunday. Remember too, I had her shaved. She looks incredibly beautiful. But I only did that because she was full of mats. I expect her to keep herself together, or learn to like a good brushing. Slowly at first. If she wants to go out, she will sit by the door.
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                                      • #20
                                        Put her dinner on the other side of the door. Hold the door open with your hand, let it gently shut on her back side as she is mostly through. Repeat at each meal gradually holding it less and less until she has to push it open herself.
                                        Cats are smart. I watched my cat methodically test the electronic cat door for 15 minutes until she got exactly the right timing.
                                        Honestly she was a scientist about it.
                                        Kept going up to it and freezing in position to see how close she had to be to make it open.
                                        Wish I filmed it, she was focusing on it so intensely.
                                        Oh, and it really helps if the flap or door is clear, so they can see through it so they know know one is waiting on the
                                        other side to pounce on them.