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  • Re-Homing a Rescue Dog

    So to clarify this isn’t an urgent situation by any means. And, it’s hard to even consider re-homing a dog. But the shelter dog we rescued last fall isn’t working out. In a nutshell, she was supposed to be a companion for our dog (who’s been lonely since we lost our girl two years ago). After six months our first dog is so on edge. He now spends most of his home time, in a bedroom, ready to grumble.
    The shelter girl, who's 1 1/2, is in most ways a great dog, very extroverted, great with people, loves all dogs- but can be a bit pushy (think sumo wrestler). On her own or with a different dog, I think she’d be fine. I really like her. It’s hard to explain, but the dynamic just doesn’t seem to be working. Time hasn’t changed anything. The dogs basically get along, no fighting and she does try to be respectful of his space. But it’s hard to see first dog so unhappy. It feels like the proverbial trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole.
    Does anyone have suggestions about finding a new home for this dog? I think it goes without saying, we wouldn’t drop her back off at the shelter. I’ve gone through a list of people I know. But anyone who may be a good fit isn’t looking for a dog. And anyone looking for a dog probably wouldn’t be a good fit.
    Thanks! I’ve never considered not keeping a dog, before.

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    You didn't rescue it, you bought it from a rescue organization and now you need to get rid of it. Your reasons are perfectly legitimate but let's be honest in the terms we are using. I agree your family dog's needs come first. I always get young puppies as companions for adult dogs when I lose one to prevent these family dynamic problems, for what it's worth.

    Just take it back to the shelter. Pretty sure that's what you are supposed to do if a shelter dog doesn't work out, aka the responsible thing. Shelters screen potential buyers for a living, they're generally over protective about it so I think you can let them handle it again. You will be blacklisted though, almost certainly. Plan to find another dog somewhere else and hope they don't network if you want to go the shelter route again. They say they want you to return the dog if for any reason you can't keep it anymore in the future, but as soon as you do, for any reason at all, your name is mud, seems.
    Power to the People

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      Taking the dog back to the shelter is not "what you are supposed to do" or "the responsible thing".
      It very much depends what type of shelter the dog comes from. If it's a municipal shelter (with the primary goal of animal control), you are in no way expected or obliged to return the dog. As a matter of fact, most of them are happy for every dog that doesn't re-enter the system. Re-dumps are a big problem and are often the first on the euth lists at public shelters.

      Our barn manager fosters for the local humane society and quite a few dogs stayed with people from our barn. So maybe a flyer at your barn or local track store would be a good idea. If you have no one in your private circle of friends and acquaintances who will take the dog, I would contact legitimate rescues in your area. If the dog is a specific breed, you could try breed specific rescues too. Many rescue organizations will help with re-homing while the dog stays with you. That sounds like it might be the best solution for you, since yours doesn't seem like an urgent situation. It would spare the dog a stressful stay in a kennel and would allow you to maintain some level of control where she goes. Every rescue operates differently, but some will assist with home checks and let you list the dog on their website, use their contracts etc

      Since she is from a shelter originally, I am assuming she is spayed. But just in case, don't ever give an unspayed dog away to a stranger, that is a good recipe for putting the dog in a bad situation. Also, be suspicious of anything that seems to good to be true, e.g. the "no-kill rescue" that will take on any dog and supposedly has this amazing farm where all dogs live together peacefully. Chances are it's a hoarder.

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        Go to getyourpet.com and list your dog on there. The site does home to home adoptions, and it is really a great resource. I met my latest family member on there, and we were able to meet the family, find out what her story was, and go from there. She also had come from a rescue, but wasn't working out in that home. She's great here!
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          Originally posted by DogIsMyCopilot View Post
          Taking the dog back to the shelter is not "what you are supposed to do" or "the responsible thing".
          It very much depends what type of shelter the dog comes from. If it's a municipal shelter (with the primary goal of animal control), you are in no way expected or obliged to return the dog. As a matter of fact, most of them are happy for every dog that doesn't re-enter the system. Re-dumps are a big problem and are often the first on the euth lists at public shelters.
          This. What kind of shelter was it, and what else is available in your area.

          There are a lot of good rescue organizations that would help you - do a search in your area - ask your friends if they can recommend a rescue, and also check with your vet.

          I would never return a dog to a municipal shelter and just hope for the best. It's likely that the dog will end up in the very same situation because they are not designed to "match" dogs with the best homes like many other organizations.

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            Thank you for the replies. Yes she is from a municipal shelter. I wouldn't take her back there. I think they operate in good faith and do a good service. But as a poster stated she would just go back to a kennel run. And based on the interview process and observation, I don't think they have the protocol to properly screen.
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            We were told she is a Jack Russell/ PBGV - or something along those lines- supposedly a "designer second". At least she has traits of both: high energy and stubbornness. One of my concerns with the shelter is that potential new owners would only see how friendly and cute she is and not be prepared for everything else. All things that are fine with us but are making our guy miserable. As an aside she was completely shaved when we got her and hadn't attained her full fluffy, glorious cuteness.

            Ultimately if we do re-home her, it's only fair to go over with the new family what we've learn about her and make sure they have all her health records.

            Thanks for the getyourpet.com suggestion! I'll check it out.

            Thanks, again!

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            • #7
              I've adopted 4 dogs from kill shelters and then contacted rescues to see if they could help me place the dog into a forever home. I put money and time into getting them healthy and settled in home life. It helps dogs find good homes faster if a foster situation can give info (I've also fostered, but those 4 I paid to adopt just to get them out of the shelter). Knowing if a dog is cat friendly, house trained, walks on a leash, likes riding in a car, etc is all very good stuff to know about a potential adoption dog. So with your dog having a known history and up to date on healthcare the chances of a rescue assisting you in placement is high.

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                Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                I've adopted 4 dogs from kill shelters and then contacted rescues to see if they could help me place the dog into a forever home. I put money and time into getting them healthy and settled in home life. It helps dogs find good homes faster if a foster situation can give info (I've also fostered, but those 4 I paid to adopt just to get them out of the shelter). Knowing if a dog is cat friendly, house trained, walks on a leash, likes riding in a car, etc is all very good stuff to know about a potential adoption dog. So with your dog having a known history and up to date on healthcare the chances of a rescue assisting you in placement is high.
                Thanks! And thank you for rescuing from kill shelters. I also fostered - from a kill shelter. I think it helped the two dogs acclimate before getting their forever home.

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                • #9
                  Did you sign a contract when you adopted the dog? I know Many rescues and even shelters will require you to return the dog to them if it does not work out. Otherwise, maybe Petfinder? Idk if there is a charge to post a dog on there.

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                  • #10
                    Many rescues will do a courtesy listing if the animal is spay/neutered and up to date on vaccinations.

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                    • #11
                      What Nezzy said - if you signed a contract with the rescue/shelter, you really should see what that contract dictates in cases like this. (And if it says you're supposed to return the dog to them, I might be very careful about posting a rehoming ad online - nothing says "I'm violating a contract" like an online ad.)

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                      • #12
                        Actually, with a breed like the PBGV? Their national breed club would probably taker her into rescue IF she clearly has PBGV in her. The harder to come by breeds are more lax about taking in mixes. Worth a shot, right? Sheilah

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                          Originally posted by IdahoRider View Post
                          Actually, with a breed like the PBGV? Their national breed club would probably taker her into rescue IF she clearly has PBGV in her. The harder to come by breeds are more lax about taking in mixes. Worth a shot, right? Sheilah
                          Yes, the collie and cocker rescues I work with take mixes. Definitely contact PBGV rescue to see if they can assist. Don't take her back to the shelter. Your vet may be able to assist with placement too. Definitely do a background check, including referrals and vet information first if you decide to rehome on your own. There are a lot of bad actors out there scooping up rehomed dogs to either resell or use as bait for dog fighting. Be very careful.

                          All of that advice assumes you didn't sign a contract with the shelter to return the dog to them for rehoming.

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                            Seems every week the Dogs For Sale sites I am signed up for post warnings about a flipper or someone buying bait dogs. You have to be so careful, so incredibly careful because these people are very clever. They come complete with back stories and references and even vet info. Dog flippers and fighters do not go to shelters to get more dogs, they buy them online from people "rehoming". There is nothing wrong with taking her back to the shelter you got her from. She will be safe there.
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                              Originally posted by Sswor View Post
                              Seems every week the Dogs For Sale sites I am signed up for post warnings about a flipper or someone buying bait dogs. You have to be so careful, so incredibly careful because these people are very clever. They come complete with back stories and references and even vet info. Dog flippers and fighters do not go to shelters to get more dogs, they buy them online from people "rehoming". There is nothing wrong with taking her back to the shelter you got her from. She will be safe there.
                              She will be safe there UNLESS it is a high kill shelter or UNLESS they have a policy that returned dogs get euthanized immediately or have a really short time to get readopted or UNLESS they do little to no screening so will adopt to anyone that pays the fee.

                              Most dog flippers and fighters get them from people rehoming them for free or they steal them. Very rarely would they want to pay money as that cuts into profit.

                              Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by IdahoRider View Post
                                Actually, with a breed like the PBGV? Their national breed club would probably taker her into rescue IF she clearly has PBGV in her. The harder to come by breeds are more lax about taking in mixes. Worth a shot, right? Sheilah
                                This. If she looks like a partbred, rarish, small breed, a breed specific rescue networking her (or taking her) is probably your best bet. I'm sorry it didn't work out. Sometimes it just doesn't
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                                • #17
                                  If there is an "obedience", "agility", and/or "rally" club in your area, you might try contacting them. High energy dogs can be great for dog sports, and many of the people are used to 'stubborn' dogs. Be honest about why you are re-homing and tell them that you will keep her as long as necessary to find her the perfect home.

                                  If she is spayed and has all her shots, you will seem more like a responsible person and less like someone who is just dumping an unwanted dog. (Include pictures if she's a cutie!) You MIGHT get a lecture, but OUR club would help you network.

                                  For clubs in your area, you can look on akc.org or ukcdogs.com. Good luck!
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                                  • #18
                                    How often do you take them both for brisk, leashed walks together? Best thing in the world to make dogs bond together?

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jetsmom View Post
                                      How often do you take them both for brisk, leashed walks together? Best thing in the world to make dogs bond together?
                                      They go out every day for usually 1-2+ hours on trails, fields, beach (snowshoeing this March). They do fine together outside. My guy is a terrier and is usually in a hole or barking up a tree. She appears to be part terrier and spends a large part of the time assisting in the hunt. They're fine together most of the time. And in her mind nothing's wrong. It's just kind of nebulous. She's not a "problem" dog. But he is really on edge and cranky around her in the house.

                                      The agility clubs might be an option. I don't have a horse right now and am only peripherally familiar w/local barns.Otherwise that might be a good resource.

                                      Since we don't definitively know what she is, I'm hesitant to contact a pure breed rescue. Off the top of my head I don't recall what the contract states. I would be mindful of that. And also mindful of flippers.

                                      I think with winter coming to an end (maybe??), It'll be easier to reach out to people I know and that network. For now they'll be fine.

                                      Thanks, again, for all the suggestions!

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                                      • #20
                                        Many rescues will do courtesy posts or even bring them into the rescue as long as you are willing to foster her (for foster based rescues) until she is placed. Having a licensed rescue be back up is a great thing. Some will even let you bring the dog to their adoption events for exposure. I've done that before I was fostering for an actual rescue.

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