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Can anyone tell me about my mares pedigree??

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  • Can anyone tell me about my mares pedigree??

    I just bought my first horse but I've been riding all my life. I don't know much about pedigrees!!! I'm planning on training her to be a barrel horse and I know Dash for Cash is a big barrel racer but I want to know more about the other ones, and if she has a good pedigree for barrel racing!!! Thanks!

  • #2
    Way back she's got some good foundation breeding, should lend itself to speed.


    • #3
      Originally posted by haileeziah View Post
      I just bought my first horse but I've been riding all my life. I don't know much about pedigrees!!! I'm planning on training her to be a barrel horse and I know Dash for Cash is a big barrel racer but I want to know more about the other ones, and if she has a good pedigree for barrel racing!!! Thanks!
      Well, those horses in her pedigree tend to be good barrel racers.
      They also have good dispositions, but some may be more on the flighty side when it comes to being overreactive.

      Dash for Cash was bred to all kinds of mares and most of those crosses were sensible, talented and athletic.
      Then, the cross that produced Miss n Cash were all of that with a bit of a lack of self preservation.
      Lovely horses to have, easy to train, many puppy dog personalities, but if and when something would set them off, they didn't have much self preservation, would really lose it and tended to panic first.

      That cross to the sire there, with all those very sensible horses on the top part, is exactly what that dam of your horse needed, if she herself was one of those overreactive ones.
      I expect your mare is a lovely horse, with all the ability of those good performers and a more settled mind than her own dam may have possessed.


      • #4
        Dash For Cash racked up an impressive record as a race horse and went on to greatly influence the breed as a preferred sire for the track and speed events. You see him in the pedigrees of a great many successful race and games horses in the Western breeds.

        Doc Bar is there too. He founded a regular dynasty in the Cutting and Reined Cow Horse world. He was by Lightning Bars by Three Bars (TB) who was a tremendous influence on the modern QH type. And Truly Truckle...haven't seen that one for awhile but he was quite popular out on the west coast circa 1970s, put a good using horse on the ground for just about any job, usually pretty good looking horses too.

        I like to see that topline combined with the King Ranch breeding on the bottom. Many of his sons through the Poco line were a little more old style, smart, little more even tempered. But he put some speed out there too with some crosses. Too far back to show up but the tail female goes to Leo...one of the great foundation sires.

        Your horse should be even tempered and quick around the pattern. Now...these ancestors are well back so influence from any single one of them is diluted. However when you see very carefully selected individuals deliberately crossed to combine speed and refinement from the TB side as you see on the top side here with classic QH working lines (there's a little TB in there too) as you see on the dams side repeatedly? The influence of the combination carries further down through the generations, IMO.

        The take away here is your horse is the product of generations of carefully selected matings to produce a very good using horse. Not accidents, hunches or the cheapest thing they could afford. You got lucky in that. Hopefully she works out well for you and is as easy to work with as some in her family and as quick as some of the others.

        Need to add that good using horses are sometimes not warm fuzzy types. They are focused on their work and dont tolerate fools, there are several on here that were not cuddly teddy bear types. Great performance horses often have a bit of arrogance in them, treat your mare with respect if she shows a bit of that, just means shes devoted to do the flat out best she can for you. I actually prefer that in a competition horse and my very best ones had that attitude.
        Last edited by findeight; Mar. 21, 2017, 10:39 AM.
        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


        • #5
          I love Sun Frost bred horses, especially crossed with more running blood. I'm not a huge fan of Dash For Cash anymore because it seems like every 2/3 horses have it on their papers. He was a great horse, but he's getting so far back on some papers it's becoming irrelevant almost because of the dilution. I agree with the Miss N Cash cross being a little careless in some situations, but with the cross on the top I wouldn't be too worried about it with your horse. There's a lot of DFC crosses that have led to some quirky horses. Dash Ta Fame offspring tend to be very hot if not crossed properly. It's all about how you cross them. People bred to DTF because he's proven himself as a stud and many people breed hot running blood to him and end up on horses that are fire breathing dragons. But they keep doing it because those horses are selling $$$$. A DTF daughter will cost you a kidney if she's bred right, maybe both kidneys. I like the breeding of your mare and I think she'd do fine in the barrel pen


          • #6
            Originally posted by haileeziah View Post
            I want to know more about the other ones, and if she has a good pedigree for barrel racing!!!
            I would say she has a nice pedigree for barrel racing.

            It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.


            • Original Poster

              I don't think she's been 5 panel tested. She might've been with the previous owner but not that I know of.


              • #8
                I have a really silly question: how are any of you able to see the tiny writing? I have tried zooming in, but it only gets blury - what am I doing wrong?
                All of us are crazy, just some of us get caught.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by SWatson View Post
                  I have a really silly question: how are any of you able to see the tiny writing? I have tried zooming in, but it only gets blury - what am I doing wrong?
                  You could go directly to allbreedpedigree.com and type the name in and then you can read it there and click on other interesting horses in that pedigree and read about them in the notes and see their pictures.

                  I see blurry anyway, so when I zoomed it, I could read it good enough, used to that.


                  • #10
                    Shoot - I hoped there was some "magikal" solution LOL!

                    All of us are crazy, just some of us get caught.


                    • #11
                      If you are familar with the name, you can decifer it even if it's blurry. There's quite a few names people are familar with in this pedigree.
                      When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                      The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


                      • #12
                        My parents stood a full brother to Doc's Jack Frost (Doc's Juniper) and I have a son of their stallion. I love the Doc Bar brain and quite honestly would clone my gelding if had the funds! I know Sun Frost has been a successful barrel horse sire. Miss N Cash was a very successful cutting horse and if memory serves me correctly he sired quite a lot of nice reiners. When I was a kid I had a granddaughter of Azure Te and she was a business-like mare who was efficient, but not a pet. I would venture to guess that your horse is smart, trainable and sensible. Only time will tell if she's fast enough to run barrels, but I'm pretty sure she'll turn a cow!