• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Need a little advice on bits

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Need a little advice on bits

    I just bought a 4 year old pleasure bred filly. She is very quiet but not finished. When I bought her she was ridden in a thin twisted wire with no contact and she went well in that bit. I want to ride her English and Western. My question is, do I stick with the thin wire or use a plain snaffle. Is it better to wait till I have her more finished?
    I am basically an English girl, and for the most part ridden with contact in smooth snaffles. I don't want to confuse her or create bad habits. What do you experienced Western people think?
    I have ridden Western for a while now which is why I wanted a horse to ride both ways. I know how to ride without contact and with my seat and legs. Just looking for the best thing with to do for her. Thanks!
    Lilykoi


    Hell hath no fury like the chestnut thoroughbred mare

  • #2
    Why thin twisted wire? That is a very harsh moutpiece for a greenie. I would absolutely throw that to the birds and get a regular snaffle (my gelding prefers the Myler western D-ring comfort snaffle, it has like two joints instead of one).

    Second, just because she's a pleasure bred filly doesn't mean she can't go on contact. She needs to learn to ride in the bridle, get her ass up under her so she's not dragging herself along with her nose plowing dirt, and learn to travel correctly both on the circle and on the straight [I'm not saying she moves like this, but that is how most "WP bred" horses are allowed to move]

    Get rid of the thin twisted wire snaffle, and replace it with any other snaffle.
    "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

    Comment


    • #3
      No contact comes after the horse is finished, not before. You say you have an english background...teach using dressage basics, and the "no contact" thing will come later, when she can balance and reach into the bridle.
      "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
        Why thin twisted wire? That is a very harsh moutpiece for a greenie. I would absolutely throw that to the birds and get a regular snaffle (my gelding prefers the Myler western D-ring comfort snaffle, it has like two joints instead of one).

        Second, just because she's a pleasure bred filly doesn't mean she can't go on contact. She needs to learn to ride in the bridle, get her ass up under her so she's not dragging herself along with her nose plowing dirt, and learn to travel correctly both on the circle and on the straight [I'm not saying she moves like this, but that is how most "WP bred" horses are allowed to move]

        Get rid of the thin twisted wire snaffle, and replace it with any other snaffle.
        This is very good advice...

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
          No contact comes after the horse is finished, not before. You say you have an english background...teach using dressage basics, and the "no contact" thing will come later, when she can balance and reach into the bridle.
          And this. Get a thinnish loose ring, like a Myler or KK and see how she does. I took my little ranch mare that had been in a curb for years back to a snaffle. She likes her loose ring Myler for dressage and a Myler comfort cowboy snaffle for western. On cows, sometimes she is back into a mullen mouth little curb for super power steering and brakes.

          Comment


          • #6
            There is nothing to do but experiment. Put her in the plain snaffle you are used to using and see what happens, then adjust from there.

            Also, I know lots of people love the Mylers, but try and borrow one to try before you buy one. They are expensive and not all horses like them. I have one that said, very clearly, "Get this ^%%$# thing out of my mouth. Now." But, he loves the Happy Mouth shaped mullen mouth mouthpiece, which I thought was going to be too thick to be comfortable for him. I only tried it as a last resort.
            "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything
            that's even remotely true."

            Homer Simpson

            Comment


            • #7
              Try a thin smooth snaffle to replace the twisted wire. I like Drings or Full cheek over o-rings, but that's just my preference.
              Teaching Horseback Riding Lessons: A Practical Training Manual for Instructors

              Stop Wasting Hay and Extend Consumption Time With Round Bale Hay Nets!!

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                Thanks everyone. Everything you suggest was kind of my inclination also. The only friend I have that has a Western trainer warned me to not go to a plain snaffle as it would teach her to lug. She said her trainer's motto is "thinner, winner" when it comes to bits. I had her in a loose ring snaffle today and she seems fine. Thanks!
                Lilykoi


                Hell hath no fury like the chestnut thoroughbred mare

                Comment


                • #9
                  definitely a regular snaffle will do my horse loves the snaffle with copper rollers

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    This is my motto: train the horse to be light in the bridle, and you don't need a thin bit to keep them from lugging.
                    "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      This bit is the one I use (I am not sure why SS Tack's website says its sweet iron, because its not...)

                      http://www.sstack.com/product/myler-...mfort-snaffle/

                      My bit isn't sweet iron either, its exactly the one pictured.
                      My gelding doesn't like a single joint, nutcracker effect and the joint pokes him in the palette. This bit works great for preventing that. My mare, an Arab with a smaller mouth, loves this bit as well.
                      "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
                        This bit is the one I use (I am not sure why SS Tack's website says its sweet iron, because its not...)

                        http://www.sstack.com/product/myler-...mfort-snaffle/

                        My bit isn't sweet iron either, its exactly the one pictured.
                        My gelding doesn't like a single joint, nutcracker effect and the joint pokes him in the palette. This bit works great for preventing that. My mare, an Arab with a smaller mouth, loves this bit as well.
                        This is exactly what I was talking about. My mare loves hers.

                        Comment

                        Working...
                        X