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How many of you own a Foundation Quarter Horse?

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  • How many of you own a Foundation Quarter Horse?

    How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?

    My Holly - Hollys Classic Bayb

    93% Foundation - AQHA - FQHA - NFQHA Registered


    The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

  • #2
    How would I tell? Here is his pedigree. I know that there are some old lines in there (Driftwood for example) but I honestly have no idea.

    "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."


    • #3
      Cody's Mom was foundation....don't know about his Dad, but Sire is Peponita's Pine (well known reining/cutting horse) from Charles City, Va...
      If I recall correctly, Cody's Dam (Ima Saucy Skip) had in her background.....Skipper, Smart Little Lena, Plaudit, etc. There were some big names in her pedigree, but I don't have the papers in front of me, and don't have a great memory.


      • #4
        Also wondering how one would tell if their horse is Foundation.

        I've gotten comments that my gelding does not have some of the typical QH features of today, and other comments that he has some distinctly foundation bred characteristics, such as his roman nose.

        Personally I think he's just a very badly bred QH (he has some significant conformational faults...but I love him all the same).

        Photo of him: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2488/4...399c057f_o.jpg

        Please ignore the mud, safety hazards, whatever else is in the picture, we're no longer at that barn.

        Lineage: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bidder+win
        come what may

        Rest in peace great mare, 1987-2013


        • Original Poster

          Certification requirements for NFQHA


          http://fqha.com/articles/Calculating%20your%20horse's%20Foundation%20Quarte r%20Horses%20percentage.htm

          Calculating your horses foundation percentage for FQHA

          The method used by Foundation Quarter Horses Association is simple. It is easy for anyone to determine their horses Foundation percentage themselves. You just need a basic working knowledge of fractions and percentages. The system is based on a single concept - Thoroughbred blood which is added into a horse’s pedigree for horses registered with AQHA in 1941 or later subtracts from that horses percentage of foundation Quarter Horse blood. It’s that simple.
          My mare is only 93% because 7 generations back, 3 times there is TB in her lineage. One of the times it is Three Bars, which doesn't count as much against the calculations, by the foundation registries.
          The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.


          • #6
            this is my gelding's half brother, on sire's side.


            Ironically, I did not know about this stallion until today. Another one named Cody! LOL


            • #7
              I found my gelding's sire's pedigree online:



              • #8
                Shoot, percentages aside my mare is so foundation you can follow her all the way back through Diomed, Eclipse and others to TB foundation (Darley Arabian, Byerly Turk):


                My gelding is appendix and therefore technically not 'foundation' (Poco Bueno and Pacific Bailey lines)-- but I could get him all the way back to qh origins too, but he's not on all breed pedigree and I haven't gotten around to putting it there.


                • #9
                  I have two foundation and one appendix. Ironically you would never know my appendix had any TB in him. He is such a bulldog.


                  • #10
                    My coming-5 strawberry roan filly; Doc Bar high side, Hancock blood on her mom's. As the old English saying used to go, "Head of a lady, farewell like a COOK!"

                    Probably should have named her "Gloria Peterbilt!"


                    • Original Poster

                      percentages aside my mare is so foundation
                      Lots of nice horses, but both foundation registrations look for an 80% to be considered foundation.
                      The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.


                      • #12
                        Big D, the horse in my signature, is 90% foundation.

                        If I ever came across a part sibling to him I'd be very very tempted. He's a great guy, and only a trail horse rather than a reiner/cutter due to bad LH suspensories (injury).


                        • #13
                          Raises hand! My girl's registered with the FQHR and she has King-P234 on her papers:


                          29 years old and no arthritis . Foundation = tough as nails


                          • #14

                            My old broodmare - (best horse ever!) was 96.875% foundation, with Three Bars knocking her down. Had to euthanize her last fall due to arthritis. I ride one of her appaloosa daughters, who obviously doesn't qualify.


                            • #15
                              We have a few and have had many more over the years including one that was something like 97% - 99% Foundation... She was also one of the most freaking insane horses we ever had on the farm

                              She was the most heavily Foundation bred horse we ever had, but all the others were a lot better than her


                              • #16
                                We have one (AQHA, but not registered foundation--yet): 10 yr old gelding, grandson of Smart Little Lena out of a Dry Doc mare. He's terrific--quiet, virtually bomb-proof, with just enough get up and go to be fun. Typical foundation conformation--14.2, WIDE--but moves out long and smooth. Sweet boy!


                                • #17
                                  After fiddling with the "easy" formula for over 15 minutes, I've once again proven to myself I completely suck at math.

                                  Anyway, the mare in my profile pic is foundation bred. No TB until five generations back, then Three Bars.


                                  Have a question about allbreedpedigree site, since I've seldom used it - can just anyone fill out these pedigrees?
                                  Is it me or do 99.9% of cowboys just look better with their hats on?


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by KSAQHA View Post
                                    Have a question about allbreedpedigree site, since I've seldom used it - can just anyone fill out these pedigrees?
                                    Yep, anyone can add a horse, but they cannot edit an existing horse.


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by OveroHunter View Post
                                      Yep, anyone can add a horse, but they cannot edit an existing horse.
                                      Well, interesting enough, the pedigree was slightly incomplete and allowed me to add the remaining bottom side info, without being signed in. It would not allow me to edit her height, which isn't correct.

                                      I don't honestly recall ever registering there or entering pedigrees for any of my horses and this particular mare is the only one on there, other than a paint mare I sold a couple of years ago...I suppose the current owner could have entered her info.
                                      Is it me or do 99.9% of cowboys just look better with their hats on?


                                      • Original Poster

                                        To pull accurate and true pedigrees you really need to get them from the actual registry sites.

                                        While there are many quality unregistered quarter horses out there, they are only regarded as grade horses.

                                        Many of the pedigrees on allbreedpedigree site are incomplete. Some of the horses listed do not have reqistration numbers, as an example. The pedigrees on there aren't proof of anything. Someone can create a pedigree there, that is totally false.

                                        Both foundation registries use the AQHA pedigrees.
                                        The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.