• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

wintec western saddles

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • wintec western saddles

    Oh, how cool, a western forum. Thank you COTH ! Even though I'm truly h/j & racing - I want to try out western a little.

    Now, I'm not going to put a zillion pound saddle on my horse, nor do I want to carry one, no way. So, how are the Wintec westerns? I had a Wintec dressage and loved it.

    Oh, and does the western girth have any elastic to make the horse more comfortable, you know - like the ends of the english girth?

    Tx.

  • #2
    I tried a Wintec western saddle a few years ago, and unless there have been serious modifications recently, it is the most uncomfortable saddle I have ever sat in. The good news is it sat on the horse's back pretty well, but the bad news is I couldn't stand sitting in it for more than a few minutes. You might be able to make it work by adding some sort of seat saver, but without that, it is like sitting on a board.

    No, no elastic in western girths, but I like string girths for English too, and I have yet to have girth galls from string in either discipline.
    Mystic Owl Sporthorses
    www.mysticowlsporthorses.com

    Comment


    • #3
      We have a Circle Y ..well I call it semi synthetic. There's leather leather on it, but the skirt and fenders are synthetic. It doesn't weight a lot. And you can find them for the same price as a Wintec and at least for my tushy it is a lot more comfortable.
      Owned by a Paint/TB and an OTTB.
      RIP Scoutin' For Trouble ~ 2011 at 10
      RIP Tasha's Last Tango ~ 2010 at ~23
      RIP In Sha' Allah ~ 2009 too young at 5

      Comment


      • #4
        I use a Abetta Cordura Stealth Trail Saddle. I use a center fire rigging on it.

        http://www.buytack.com/products-saddles/act/20557.htm

        I have seen it called by a couple of different names by dealers.

        I bought mine from a local Abetta dealer...
        Attached Files
        Last edited by 7HL; May. 6, 2012, 09:32 PM.
        The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

        Comment


        • #5
          Wintec makes good english synthetic saddles... their western has pretty much nothing but bad reviews.

          I'd suggest an Abetta, or if you want to go "hybrid", the Lady Fabtron is half leather, half synthetic.

          I bought an older Abetta for $100, and it's a great, comfy saddle that fits my mare and doesn't give me a hernia to put it on her back.
          Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            You might be able to make it work by adding some sort of seat saver

            Thanks Clint. Actually, I do use a seat saver on all my saddles because I despise cantle dings (you know those little nicks you can get on your cantle).

            OK, I'll have to get the weight on the other saddles. Thanks for the suggestions. I think the Wintec western is 20 lbs, which is great. Hopefully, the others are about the same.

            7HL - what is a center fire rigging? Thanks.

            No, no elastic in western girths

            Now, I'm not OK with this. My concern is not girth galls or how easy it is to pull up. It's for more comfort for the horse. Some might dispute that it does much, but that is where I am at with that.

            Someone, please invent an elastic insert western cinch. I think it would go over well. Maybe I should and call it a Sonoma cinch! Kinda catchy, eh? (Ca-ching?)

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by sonomacounty View Post
              You might be able to make it work by adding some sort of seat saver

              Thanks Clint. Actually, I do use a seat saver on all my saddles because I despise cantle dings (you know those little nicks you can get on your cantle).

              OK, I'll have to get the weight on the other saddles. Thanks for the suggestions. I think the Wintec western is 20 lbs, which is great. Hopefully, the others are about the same.

              7HL - what is a center fire rigging? Thanks.

              No, no elastic in western girths

              Now, I'm not OK with this. My concern is not girth galls or how easy it is to pull up. It's for more comfort for the horse. Some might dispute that it does much, but that is where I am at with that.

              Someone, please invent an elastic insert western cinch. I think it would go over well. Maybe I should and call it a Sonoma cinch! Kinda catchy, eh? (Ca-ching?)
              They do make off-straps with elastic:

              http://www.adamshorsesupplies.com/Ca...ther-P908.aspx

              And I HAVE seen cinches with elastic before... not sure what brand though!
              Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

              Comment


              • #8
                My experience with Wintecs is that the fenders never really break in. Consequently, they put more torque on your knees than properly broken in leather fenders and certainly more than English stirrup leathers.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Found an elastic cinch!

                  http://www.nationalbridle.com/product-p/1-6968.htm



                  Or if you prefer double elastic..

                  http://www.nationalbridle.com/product-p/1-6916.htm
                  Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Carp: So that would make you go toe out?

                    Sublime: Thanks and Oooo, those are nice ! I think all western saddles should have those (nicer for the horse).

                    So, there goes my idea of the Sonoma cinch and I guess I won't be a millionairess now. Sigh.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sonomacounty View Post

                      7HL - what is a center fire rigging? Thanks.
                      http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/...-positions.jpg

                      http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/saddle-rigging.html

                      http://tuckersaddlery.com/EnduroBalancedSingleTie.shtml

                      http://tuckersaddlery.com/rigging.shtml


                      I however have been using a SUPRA CINCH with my Abetta. It all weighs under 20#.
                      http://www.crestridgesaddlery.com/buytack.html

                      http://www.crestridgesaddlery.com/supracinch.html
                      Attached Files
                      The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        Thanks 7HL. I like the center rigging better than the two girths for sure.

                        Further looked up Abettas - 17-18 lbs. Awesome.

                        Thanks.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I have the Trail Lady Fabtron and LOVE it. It's comfy, and I think they make higher quality saddles than Wintec or Abetta. They appear to have a much wider variety of sizes (for horses) as well.

                          You can get a standard tree or flex-tree. This is the saddle I have:

                          http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/fabtr...il-saddle.html

                          ETA: I did replace the plastic stirrups with real ones, and I use a Weaver Smart Cinch on it.

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Thanks so much, NHM! Beautiful.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              A little late to the party, but I wanted to give you my opinion of Wintec Western Saddles.

                              We bought one for DH for the less than 4 times every two years that he decides he wants to play cowboy. It is, without a doubt, the most uncomfortable and hard saddle that I have ever sat in.

                              He doesn't seem to mind it, is proud that **he** has his own saddle and I don't mind that it sits in our tack room, gathering dust. Wasn't too expensive and can be washed off. But, I would never buy one again unless they made some serious modifications to seat comfort.

                              Comment

                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                So sad to hear that Bella Luna. As I said I had a Wintec dressage that I loved. You all should e-mail Wintec and tell them they need to fix their Western saddle up & how.

                                I liked the Albetta that NewHorseMommy posted, but I'd still want it to be a little lighter.

                                ---

                                Also, I'd need that cinch with lots of elastic as Sublime posted above.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  That's good to know about the dressage saddle. I have ridden in a Wintec All Purpose and I think that they are actually quite comfortable and would have considered one for my draft/x, but, they do not fit him well. I was curious about the dressage one, so now I know. Thanks!!

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by carp View Post
                                    My experience with Wintecs is that the fenders never really break in. Consequently, they put more torque on your knees than properly broken in leather fenders and certainly more than English stirrup leathers.
                                    I didn't find that at all...I use a Wintec on the (rare) occasions that I ride Western and after a couple of days with a broom handle through the stirrups, it is fine...in fact I find it more comfortable than most Western saddles...I always liked the old-style hard seat ones anyway, so maybe I don't notice that it's not cushy, but I can ride in it much longer than any other Western saddle without my butt or knees hurting. But then, there are English saddles that other say are super-comfy that I cant ride in either. I guess it's a matter of what fits the rider.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      I ride the two draft horses a friend owns in a western wintec... I actually really like it. Easier to haul up on those big guys and I think it's pretty comfy.

                                      Of course, my english saddle is an ancient crosby and it's about the least comfortable thing ever, so maybe it's just that it's more comfy than the very uncomfy english saddle.
                                      RIP Don - 3/28/2004-8/15/2012

                                      Comment

                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        Bella: I had a Wintec dressage 500 (that model as I didn't want the equisuede, too sticky). I do put a seat saver over every saddle, though, as I have a phobia about cantle dings. It was wonderfully balanced, wonderfully light to carry & for the horse. The only reason I sold it is because I stopped dressaging.

                                        They make a Wintec wide now - not sure if you know. Wide plus it has the adjustable gullets.

                                        http://www.wintec.net.au/products/al...se500Wide.html

                                        Thanks all, for the input on the Wintec western.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X