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  • Western tack questions

    I know very little about western tack. I will be starting my young horse under saddle this fall. I have a synthetic western saddle I’d like to use because it’s easy to handle and I don’t want to damage my english saddles. I’ve had it on him before and it fits him pretty well.

    the trainer I’m working with recommended I get a back cinch and maybe a breast collar just to get the horse used to more stuff on his body. Sounds good to me.

    So I’m looking for a black, affordable, safe back cinch and breast collar for a big, thick, 16hh 2yo. I’m ignorant of western brands for the most part. This tack will probably be used for 3 months and then we’ll be in other equipment.

    What are the best places to find something like this? Any brand recommendations? Things I should stay away from? Anything I should know that I’m not asking?

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    If the saddle fits and down the road the horse will not be using tack where a back cinch or breastcollar is needed wouldn’t bother adding them now...especially if you are unsure of how they should be fitted properly....one more thing to cause a potential issue with no benefit to the training process.
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    • #3
      If you are not familiar with back cinches, be sure yours has a hobble strap between cinches, so your back cinch doesn't slide back and acts as a bucking strap.

      Pictures in this article so you can see what that is:

      https://horseandrider.com/gear/weste...ey-facts-28836

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      • #4
        I am in the same boat as your trainer. I've trained my 2 year old for breast collars as well as flank cinches, even though I don't plan on using them, and don't use them on a daily basis with my other broke horses. It will save you some pain and agony if you're ever stuck using them in the future.

        As for well priced but well made tack, look for Toklat brand synthetic breast collars (found mine on ebay for $12!) and a flank cinch/billets you can buy a decent one really anywhere, just make sure it's got a hobble strap to attach it to your front cinch, or you'll have a bucker lol

        Here is my 2.5 year old in her set. I tack her up fully as much as I can, even if we are just round penning. She ground drives in all of this too.
        I’d rather ride on a Mustang, than in one.

        BaileyAnn Neal

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        • #5
          Here is a dumb question, from someone who knows nothing at all about western tack.
          For this purpose (when the breastcollar is being used to get the horse used to it, rather than to keep the saddle from sliding back), would it be fine to use an english style breastplate?
          I don't even know if the attachments would be compatible, and of course, it would depend on the style being used as well.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MissCoco View Post
            Here is a dumb question, from someone who knows nothing at all about western tack.
            For this purpose (when the breastcollar is being used to get the horse used to it, rather than to keep the saddle from sliding back), would it be fine to use an english style breastplate?
            I don't even know if the attachments would be compatible, and of course, it would depend on the style being used as well.
            Western breast collars attach lower than English style standard ones, other than the heavy pulling type that has straps going around the swells.
            Guess that if you have long enough straps in an English breast collar, you could attach it as a pulling collar?

            Most people with western saddles that train and compete, not just ride around in an arena, use breast collars to keep saddles from sliding back and from side to side and of course you want one roping.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bluey View Post

              Western breast collars attach lower than English style standard ones, other than the heavy pulling type that has straps going around the swells.
              Guess that if you have long enough straps in an English breast collar, you could attach it as a pulling collar?

              Most people with western saddles that train and compete, not just ride around in an arena, use breast collars to keep saddles from sliding back and from side to side and of course you want one roping.
              Thanks for your answer!

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              • #8
                Just to add to what has been said, if your tall colt is deep through the flanks make sure the back cinch set-up is long enough to accommodate with room to adjust.

                ​​​​​Some of the cheaper, economy setups can be short. I prefer long billets with plenty of holes so I have plenty of room to adjust especially riding a wide variety of horses.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonem004 View Post
                  I know very little about western tack. I will be starting my young horse under saddle this fall. I have a synthetic western saddle I’d like to use because it’s easy to handle and I don’t want to damage my english saddles. I’ve had it on him before and it fits him pretty well.

                  the trainer I’m working with recommended I get a back cinch and maybe a breast collar just to get the horse used to more stuff on his body. Sounds good to me.

                  So I’m looking for a black, affordable, safe back cinch and breast collar for a big, thick, 16hh 2yo. I’m ignorant of western brands for the most part. This tack will probably be used for 3 months and then we’ll be in other equipment.

                  What are the best places to find something like this? Any brand recommendations? Things I should stay away from? Anything I should know that I’m not asking?
                  Honestly, for what you are wanting to do with it, something very cheap will do the trick. How about $10 from horse . com like this one? Just check the length to make sure it will be long enough for your tall boy. If you want it strictly for the use of "sacking out" the horse to get used to it for a couple months, that will do the trick. Same for the breastcollar. Find a cheap nylon breastcollar and that will serve the purpose.

                  Leather back cinches can quickly get over $100, especially for nice ones. If you want to shell out the money for something you'll barely use, be my guest. (but you'll be hard pressed to find a black leather one, although they are out there)
                  It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.

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