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  • huntseat3
    started a topic AQHA prospect critique

    AQHA prospect critique

    Opinions on this filly as an AQHA hunt seat/all around prospect?

    Lukin Fabulous
    Ultimately Fabulous x KCS Leadinladygold
    2017 mare
    16h (strings 16.2)

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  • KayGee
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    That looks much better compared to the last video. I would still ditch the martingale. Unless you're heading to Congress, she doesn't need to be so framed at this point. I've found it's better to adjust expectations during growthy 'I need to use my head and neck' phases rather than force the head and neck down.
    I would pick her over the others you've posted, take off the martingale, get her out of the arena, and aim for a fun and low key 3 year old year.

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  • sandsarita
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    Of the horses you have posted she is the highest quality by far

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  • Spotless
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    I actually love this filly and have been admiring her Facebook ads for the last week! People, do not forget that this is a TWO year old! She is going along very, very nicely. I love love how forward she has been allowed to be; so many pleasure horses are afraid to go forward and sink back and that can be so frustrating to fix.
    There is absolutely no reason why this filly can't be an all-arounder and be competitive in the hunter ring. Is she a world beater? Not unless you're showing pinto, but she is nice and clearly has a great mind.

    On her sire -- LOVE him, one of my absolute favorites (and recently listed for sale!). He has such a phenomenal mind and is able to be ridden by their amateur teenage clients quite easily, and quiet enough for their preteen daughter to handle. His oldest foals are still babies, but I really think the next 5 years will be telling for UF, I think he's going to hit it off as a sire. This filly is worth it already IMO, that's just kind of the icing on the cake if you ever need to resell in the future.

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  • findeight
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    Originally posted by NoSuchPerson View Post
    I thought the AQHA guidelines now state that the horse's poll shouldn't be below the withers. Am I mistaken or are judges just ignoring it?
    The AQHA “guidelines” and rulebook have said that since the early 1990s. Note these are schooling sessions, not in the show pen. Some school lower knowing they will pick up in the show environment. Though still too low. IMO. It is what it is.

    Agree on the martingale, prefer to see them go more on their own to be sure they have the conformational ability to carry themselves without help from gadgets. If the neck set and angle aren’t physically there, they aren’t going to be able to do it by themselves. They have to want to and be physically able to or they won’t be a rail horse. Might do well in working divisions but, again, they need the build for those to excel.

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  • bugsynskeeter
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    Originally posted by NoSuchPerson View Post
    I thought the AQHA guidelines now state that the horse's poll shouldn't be below the withers. Am I mistaken or are judges just ignoring it?
    For 5 consecutive strides. It's not followed.

    And still with the running martingale.

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  • NoSuchPerson
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    I thought the AQHA guidelines now state that the horse's poll shouldn't be below the withers. Am I mistaken or are judges just ignoring it?

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  • luv2lope
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    Wow, she has certainly come along nicely! I think you wouldn't have a problem placing in the hunt seat events with her in the rookie and novice amateur. She would probably do ok in the HMS, as long as you can get her to suck back a bit. She would be a nice showmanship horse too! Put a lead change on her and you could take her in the western riding. For $8500, you should buy her.

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  • huntseat3
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    NEW VIDEO

    https://youtu.be/tetVY3O73FA

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  • findeight
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    Well, I said that before I saw that gelding you just bumped up. He would be #1.

    But she may be a good #2 if you investigate the fussy mouth a little. But watch both these videos and see if you can pick out what I am talking about movement wise. Help you sharpen your eye either way, Watch how freely he moves his shoulders compared to her. That could just be green, could be rider taking too much away when she does reach out but you and your trainer will need to decide if you can fix that.

    Gelding has a years advantage but more of a proven product if he is as shown in this video. Filly needs more work before you’ll see if she has “ it” or not, gelding is there.

    But you have to see them in person. Videos can mislead.

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  • huntseat3
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    Originally posted by findeight View Post
    At that price and with your stated goals, I’d be making an offer.
    So you think she’s worth it?

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  • findeight
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    At that price and with your stated goals, I’d be making an offer.

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  • sandsarita
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    For what you are wanting to do I think she could work very well for you. Just remember that it may be a couple of years before you can do much showing besides maybe hus and showmanship, and that training takes more time and money. But for rookie and level one I think she is of a great quality for that and should do fine in horsemanship. But remember that most riders in those classes are on older broke horses. Not that you can’t be very successful on a younger greener horse. It just may be frustrating in the beginning.

    And btw. My reference to size had nothing to do with her height. Her height is fine. My level 3 hus horse is just under 16 hands. I meant the size of her step for level 2/3 hus. It may develop to be perfectly fine for that especially at the midrange shows. It’s hard to tell with a baby. But she has a soft pretty stride that will get you far in the all around and rookie/level one classes

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  • huntseat3
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    Originally posted by luv2lope View Post

    I think she would be able to hold her own then in the huntseat events then, and be able to get by in the western.

    If you care more about riding in the huntseat events, I think she would be a good candidate for you. Who knows, maybe she can be one of those freaky huntseat bred horses that can still look pretty for the western? She is young, a lot can and probably will change as she grows.

    I don't know what your budget is, or her asking price. If she was $5000-$8500, I would take a chance on her, but any more than that I would probably pass. If your budget is closer to 10k, I would let her go as I think you could find something that could be more competitive in both english and western events.

    She’s at 8500 obo

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  • luv2lope
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    Originally posted by huntseat3 View Post

    We would be doing rookie and novice amateur HUS and EQ, also hopefully HMS and WP walk-trot.
    I think she would be able to hold her own then in the huntseat events then, and be able to get by in the western.

    If you care more about riding in the huntseat events, I think she would be a good candidate for you. Who knows, maybe she can be one of those freaky huntseat bred horses that can still look pretty for the western? She is young, a lot can and probably will change as she grows.

    I don't know what your budget is, or her asking price. If she was $5000-$8500, I would take a chance on her, but any more than that I would probably pass. If your budget is closer to 10k, I would let her go as I think you could find something that could be more competitive in both english and western events.


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  • huntseat3
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    Originally posted by luv2lope View Post
    I like her, she's really cute! Yes, she could use a little more reach at the trot, but I do like her lope. Can I just remind people that this is a 2 year old? Of course she's going to be a little unsteady here and there. She's come along from the first video you posted, and seems like she has a good mind on her. I would like to see the training fork come off to see if it's a fight to keep her head down. I feel like she's getting it, but she's still green (no big deal to me).

    I don't think she's that fussy with her mouth, she probably does need her teeth done or possibly a different bit. I think she's a horse you could put in the horsemanship and trail too, if you wanted to do the all around. Like sandsarita said, she would be fine for Level 1 (novice) at the shows, but amateur could be harder to get noticed and placed depending on the caliber of horses.

    What would be your goals for this horse if you bought her?


    We would be doing rookie and novice amateur HUS and EQ, also hopefully HMS and WP walk-trot.

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  • luv2lope
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    I like her, she's really cute! Yes, she could use a little more reach at the trot, but I do like her lope. Can I just remind people that this is a 2 year old? Of course she's going to be a little unsteady here and there. She's come along from the first video you posted, and seems like she has a good mind on her. I would like to see the training fork come off to see if it's a fight to keep her head down. I feel like she's getting it, but she's still green (no big deal to me).

    I don't think she's that fussy with her mouth, she probably does need her teeth done or possibly a different bit. I think she's a horse you could put in the horsemanship and trail too, if you wanted to do the all around. Like sandsarita said, she would be fine for Level 1 (novice) at the shows, but amateur could be harder to get noticed and placed depending on the caliber of horses.

    What would be your goals for this horse if you bought her?



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  • sandsarita
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    Cute looks more all around than hus to me. Likely will do fine for level one hus though and equitation. Has a nice soft step just don’t know if it will be big enough for the level 2/3 hus.

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