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small pony mare pastured with QH stud... do I need to be concerned?

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  • small pony mare pastured with QH stud... do I need to be concerned?

    Soooooo silly question... but as I looked at a small pony mare today I noticed that she was pastured with a 15h or so stud.... is there any chance of a wee small, she might be an oversized mini being field bred by a 15 QH?
    If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.

  • #2
    I've seen more than one oops result from such a cross. Last one was named Muffin I think.
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    • #3
      oh my heavens, where there is a will there is a way!!
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      • #4
        Yes, yes you absolutely need to be concerned.

        16.3 hh Hanoverian stallion + 12.2 hand mare = a little bun in the oven...

        (not mine, but I tried to buy the pony so she wouldn't foal out a monster foal out in the back 300, we couldn't catch her so I bought the 13hh pony that had been bred by the same stallion. Made sure she foaled out safely and then sold them)


        • #5
          Yes, there's a worry, and the results could be catastrophic.
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          • #6
            I knew a lady who regularly bred her 16+hh Thoroughbred to a teeninsy 11-12hh pinto mare. She had two or three foals by him before she finally died of EEE herself.


            • #7
              mmm... I knew the coolest Shetland X Clyde.

              And the big guy was the Daddy.

              It was NOT AI.

              Absolutely an issue unless she's on regumate or has a marble. Even the regumate isn't foolproof.
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              • Original Poster

                ohhhh boy... thanks guys.... this would be a mare that really needs to be vet'd and if found knocked up needs to be foaled out by experienced pros. huh?
                If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.


                • #9
                  BE CONCERNED ?

                  YES !
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                  • #10
                    Sounds like a two-fer in the making.
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                    • #11
                      Actually, you can give lutalyse to abort a pregnancy in the first 60 days, if my memory is correct.

                      Abortion *is* a good idea in these types of situations.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EqTrainer View Post
                        Sounds like a two-fer in the making.
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                        • #13
                          Providing you're looking for a nice pony cross breed then no need to worry at all.

                          When I had my stud farm we once "lost" a DWB stallion. The stable door was broken off it's hinges and he'd gone!

                          We 'found' him in a small paddock with a little shaggy Exmoor Pony mare.

                          It's owner had a very nice small hunter 6 years on.


                          • #14
                            I'm curious. Why would you think you wouldn't have to be concerned???
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                              I'm curious. Why would you think you wouldn't have to be concerned???
                              the mind boggles :-)
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                              • #16
                                I believe there was a research study that found that the mare determines the size of the foal. They bred Clydsdale stallions to shetland mares and none of the mares had difficulty foaling. But, there's always an exception to the rule and I wouldn't risk it. Although 15 hands really isn't that big...


                                • #17
                                  Hang on, I re read this. Are you thinking you want to be concerned because the pony get bred most likely, or are you thinking you are concerned because of the size thing for the foal?
                                  If it only for the fact that she is probably pregnant and you may not want that, as EM says, Lutalyse will do it- to 80 days.
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                                  • #18
                                    Buy her just to get her away from her STUPID OWNERS.

                                    And Jherold that study was done ages ago and believe me THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.
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                                    • Original Poster

                                      My question was "is mating possible between a wee pony, and a 15h stud" if it is... well then.. I can obviously see that compications could arise and would probably be likely.

                                      Hubby and I are on the same page that if she is in foal we will buy her to insure that she is cared for properly and in the event of a problem be treated by a vet, and if nessisary given a peaceful end. I don't want this little mare to end up like Hiccup. It's a double bonus if baby is as cute as daddy or mommy. If we don't believe she is in foal then we will decide about purchasing her on her riding merits.

                                      Should we purchase her- Worse case scenerio she would have to be euthanized. Middle of the ground scenerio is she becomes DH and mine's driving pony if she isn't suitible for the kids+ we get to raise a wee squirt, and best case scenerio she is our new Nanny Pony.

                                      Does that cover everyones questions?
                                      If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.


                                      • #20
                                        Yes, we acquired a pony created by such a situation years ago. Shetland/Arab...adorable little buy we called Postscript. The mare was like 30 years old and she got in foal to an 15+ hand Arabian stallion. They didn't even know she was pregnant and came home and found him up and nursing...thank goodness...as that is still kind of scary for a little mare of that age.