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  • Stallion suggestions for Rubinstein mare

    Now that its ME making a 'real' decision about who to breed to, I'm discovering how difficult this breeding thing is. This is my first broodmare and will be first baby. I've been studying stallions while I looked for that special mare to bring home.

    Here she is:
    SPS Rosa Canina: Rubinstein x Warkant x Eiger I x Sender

    short video (camera battery died). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Jn9B8awhI



    She's been bred to Donnerhall (in Germany), DeNiro, Salieri, Sir Donnerhall, Weltmeyer.
    DeNiro filly is about 16hh, Weltmeyer could be 18hh once he's finished.

    Her Salieri colt can be seen here: http://www.walkaboutstation.com/Rubi_2008_foal.htm

    I think she needs a more laid back shoulder, longer front legs, with more reach. Better hind end. She got straight 8's except for a 6 for her hind end. 8.22 MPT and 9/9/8 w/t/c scores.

    Stallions I've been thinking about:
    French Kiss
    His Highness
    Diamond Hit
    Londonderry? (I've seen a weak hind end or two)
    Belissimio M - ($$$$ but should he be considered for this mare?)

    I like big, fluid, floaty, movers. Movement with suspension is preferred with ammy temperment. Great rideability. This mare is a DREAM to ride and I don't want to lose that. I don't want anything with the S line. (I already have one)

    Ideally (not a necessity): I'd like an proven sire who's produced GP offspring and has proven frozen semen. The most important thing is that the right stallion gets matched to her regardless of age.
    Fresh, Frozen & ISO Warmblood Breedings FB Group

  • #2
    I have an imported French Kiss mare (dam sire is DeNiro) that sounds like she is just what you are looking for. She is almost 4 y/o, 16.3+h and the spitting image of her sire. Very fluid, sound mind and super temperament, super rideability. She just gave me a gorgeous dark bay filly by Plaisir d'Amour this past weekend! These girls are definitely keepers, not for sale.

    I am breeding my 3 y/o, 16.3h Quaterback filly to French Kiss this year. I truly love this stallion and I bought several doses as I plan to use him again. I would vote for him.
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    Boerne, Texas
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    • Original Poster

      I was told to call you!

      Do you have a video of your mare? I'd love to see her go.
      Fresh, Frozen & ISO Warmblood Breedings FB Group


      • #4
        No, but I can get one. It is supposed to rain here for the next couple of days, but maybe after that. Call me.
        Tricia Veley-First Flight Farm
        Boerne, Texas
        830-537-4150 phone/830-537-4154 fax
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        • #5
          Nice mare!

          Any particular registry you want the foal eligible for?

          UB40 would probably compliment her very well. Fresh too! And if this is YOUR first, having a LFG and a larger insemination time frame might take some anxiety off of you.

          Rousseau is also proving himself to be a phenomenal sire. He, himself, looks pretty heavy. But his offspring don't appear to be so. I have a coming yearling filly by Rousseau out of a Riverman (Holst.) mare. She is quite refined, and very lovely.
          Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
          with world class pedigrees and sport suitability


          • #6
            What do you want to improve in the hindleg ? The mentioned 6 is for conformation ? Do you want more engine ?

            I guess you wnat to stick with H registry so - as far as I know UB40 and Riverman are out for that.
            I am not responsible for spelling misstacks - just my PC
            2017: March: Filly by Lissaro - SPS Don Frederico - SPS Prince Thatch
            May: Finnigan - Sandro Hit - SPS Rouletto


            • #7
              I really love Belissimo !
              I think His Higness is dead, are some straws left ?


              • #8
                Originally posted by alexandra View Post
                What do you want to improve in the hindleg ? The mentioned 6 is for conformation ? Do you want more engine ?

                I guess you wnat to stick with H registry so - as far as I know UB40 and Riverman are out for that.
                I believe Rousseau is approved for Hanoverian. I wasn't suggesting Riverman....
                Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
                with world class pedigrees and sport suitability


                • #9
                  It isn't easy finding a non-Sandro Hit line stallion that will reliably add length to the front leg.

                  Also - that Warkant/Eiger I cross has produced very nicely when bred to the Donnerhall line, as has the Rubinstein line, of course.


                  • #10
                    I would definitely consider going back to Sir Donnerhall.....
                    Siegi Belz
                    2007 KWPN-NA Breeder of the Year
                    Dutch Warmbloods Made in the U. S. A.


                    • #11
                      What about Autocrat? He's probably overlooked alot, but would certainly add some leg and refinement. Don't know about the engine -- anyone know?


                      • #12
                        She is just lovely! I expect she'd produce a super foal, regardless of sire. I love Diamond Hit, and he'd be a good match for the engine. You might also look at the youngster Sir Gregory - such power, and great attitude towards work. You get the Sir Donnerhall blood through him, and extra Donnerhall through the damsire Don Gregory.
                        Wishing you much happiness with your mare. She is special.
                        Sunny Days Hanoverians


                        • Original Poster

                          Conformation pictures: (the best I could do alone)

                          Thoughts on what I see:
                          Croup needs to be longer with less slope
                          Hind legs need to be better from hip down. ?? They twist at the walk a little.
                          Shoulder is straight - needs to be more laid back
                          Can't see from picture but her pasterns are long and need to be a tad more upright and shorter.

                          Agree or not?

                          Her head looks big here but in real life it looks like it fits her body.


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