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  • My dear pony breeders....

    Please humor my ignorance. I usually read all of the pony threads in order to educate my self but I do not come from a pony background or have any experience with breeding (other than my own little rugrats). If you have a nicely bred Welsh/TB mare (by Halcyon Sir Lancelot) who is 14.1 to what or whom could you breed her to get a large? She is quite refined and looks more TB than Welsh. Great mover and awesome jump but quick.

    This is just a hypothetical conversation. I own said mare but at this point have no intention of going into the breeding business.

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    Depending on the size behind the dam's breeding, I would probably breed her to a good sized medium to be safe. Something over 13hh would be my choice, but I would not go with a large crossbred unless it has several generations of pony size on its pedigree like a British Riding Pony for example. Of course, if her dam was smaller and had smaller sized parents, etc., you might be safe with a larger stallion. There are a good many lovely ponies in the Virginia Pony Breeders stallion service auction going on right now. Go to www.vpba.com to see them. I am sure there are some people that will tell you such and such stallion is THE perfect choice for your mare. That really depends on a lot of factors. In reality, there are several lovely stallions out there that would probably work well for your mare. We would love to see photos of your mare by the way. Good luck in your stallion hunt.
    Quicksilver Farms, LLC
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      [quote=skyy]If you have a nicely bred Welsh/TB mare (by Halcyon Sir Lancelot) who is 14.1 to what or whom could you breed her to get a large? She is quite refined and looks more TB than Welsh. Great mover and awesome jump but quick. quote]

      You can go larger with a first foal (if that is the case with this mare).
      I would definitely suggest Crossgates Larasan, Section B standing at 14 hands. He won't give you more thatn 14 hands with your cross, and you stand to get a nice sized large as the result of the breeding.

      He has sired some very nice hunter ponies and has an impecable pedigree.


      (Benlea Rambler x CC Black Gal)
      Black, Section B Welsh, 14.0 Hands
      The sire of USEF Pony Finals Champion Hilton Hhonors and Large Pony Hunter Horse of the Year Midnight Hour. An opportunity of a lifetime to breed to a 14.0 Hand Registered Section B Welsh.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
        I am sure there are some people that will tell you such and such stallion is THE perfect choice for your mare. That really depends on a lot of factors. In reality, there are several lovely stallions out there that would probably work well for your mare.
        This is very true and very good advice. Always do your own research anyways because you know your mare best and what you would like to see different in the resulting foal. The internet is your friend. Talk to the stallion owner and find out how much height he throws if any. Myself, I think I would stick with a purebred pony with all pony height behind him so the only unknown would be the dam side of your pony.
        http://summerwoodwelsh.com
        Summerwood Farm Welsh Ponies~
        http://www.facebook.com/Summerwoodfarmwelshponies

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        • #5
          If you're thinking you might go purebred with her, the Welsh Pony Society has a great listing of stallions on their web site: http://www.welshpony.org/2006%20Stal...0Directory.htm
          Family Partners Welsh Ponies - Home of Section B Welsh stallion *Wedderlie Mardi Gras LOM/AOE http://www.welshponies.com
          Click here to buy: A Guide To In Hand Showing of Your Welsh Pony

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          • #6
            Another nice big Sec. B stallion that has many lovely ponies on the ground is Rollingwoods Easy As L. He is also a full 14hh and certainly producing some typey, great moving ponies. Here is a son of his that I have that I just love.
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            Quicksilver Farms, LLC
            "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
            Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
            Fancy Show Pony Prospects
            www.quicksilverponies.com

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            • #7
              Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
              Another nice big Sec. B stallion that has many lovely ponies on the ground is Rollingwoods Easy As L. He is also a full 14hh and certainly producing some typey, great moving ponies. Here is a son of his that I have that I just love.
              Very nice, Melinda!

              Yes, Elliot has produced a number of very successful ponies. He would be a good one to consider if you want "big". http://www.rollingwoodsfarm.com/
              Family Partners Welsh Ponies - Home of Section B Welsh stallion *Wedderlie Mardi Gras LOM/AOE http://www.welshponies.com
              Click here to buy: A Guide To In Hand Showing of Your Welsh Pony

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              • #8
                Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
                Another nice big Sec. B stallion that has many lovely ponies on the ground is Rollingwoods Easy As L. He is also a full 14hh and certainly producing some typey, great moving ponies. Here is a son of his that I have that I just love.
                He is really nice!
                http://summerwoodwelsh.com
                Summerwood Farm Welsh Ponies~
                http://www.facebook.com/Summerwoodfarmwelshponies

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
                  Another nice big Sec. B stallion that has many lovely ponies on the ground is Rollingwoods Easy As L. He is also a full 14hh and certainly producing some typey, great moving ponies. Here is a son of his that I have that I just love.
                  Is there a website for Easy As L?

                  I am on a similiar search- Empire's Choice (welsh K) (Power's full sister) - I am looking for a good match with her. She is 14.1 and I would like to go for the large--but not go over. If not, I will probably go with a small sire for her. I just can not decide which direction to go. Whichever sire we pick--can not have sabino gene--as she almost has too much white herself.
                  Windswept Stables-Specializing in Ponies
                  Sales, Breaking,Training,Showing, Stud Service

                  Home of 2008 Sire of Year Reserve Champion
                  Pony Hunter Breeding - Empires Power

                  www.EmpiresPower.com

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                  • #10
                    www.rollingwoodsfarm.com
                    I have heard that they are wonderful people to deal with.
                    http://summerwoodwelsh.com
                    Summerwood Farm Welsh Ponies~
                    http://www.facebook.com/Summerwoodfarmwelshponies

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Windswept Stable
                      I am on a similiar search- Empire's Choice (welsh K) (Power's full sister) - I am looking for a good match with her. She is 14.1 and I would like to go for the large--but not go over.
                      I'd love for you to consider Crossgates Larasan.
                      Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                      • #12
                        Dr Ruth at Rollingwoods is great. I have heard very good things about Easy as L
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Windswept Stable View Post
                          Is there a website for Easy As L?
                          As listed above, but having seen the stallion in person, I really don't think those photos do him justice. You might ask if they have any other pictures to send of him. He's a very nice boy, and Ruth is just fabulous. She is the WPCSA president, and so much fun!!!
                          Family Partners Welsh Ponies - Home of Section B Welsh stallion *Wedderlie Mardi Gras LOM/AOE http://www.welshponies.com
                          Click here to buy: A Guide To In Hand Showing of Your Welsh Pony

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Summerwood View Post
                            www.rollingwoodsfarm.com
                            I have heard that they are wonderful people to deal with.
                            the Rollingwoods crew are LOVELY!!

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                            • #15
                              Crossgates Larasan Has been around for awhile now if i remember correctly. I have photos of him in a very old year in review welsh book published by the WPCSA. I always loved him since he is benlea bred like my medium mare. Most of whathes produced, from what i remember, has gone unoticed up until recently. He is a lovely stallion...

                              he is now owned by Richard Taylor

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                                #16
                                Thank you everyone for taking the time to post! This is very educational and I love to look at all of the different stallions out there.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by farmgirl88
                                  Crossgates Larasan Has been around for awhile now if i remember correctly. I have photos of him in a very old year in review welsh book published by the WPCSA. I always loved him since he is benlea bred like my medium mare. Most of whathes produced, from what i remember, has gone unoticed up until recently. He is a lovely stallion...

                                  he is now owned by Richard Taylor
                                  He has sired some really nice ponies too.
                                  Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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