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Is there a role for an unreg'd 14 hh TB mare in a pony breeding program?

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  • Is there a role for an unreg'd 14 hh TB mare in a pony breeding program?

    A friend of mine has come across a nice 7 yr old 14 hand unreg'd TB mare for sale that is tugging her heartstrings. She mentioned her to me as I have a child but he is a more than a few years away from something like that and I am too big to get a 14 hander to school....

    Anyway, we are trying to think about the kind of buyer that might be interested...if she does not sell by the end of the month she is going to the live stock auction and her odds there are not great, people dump horses that they do not want to feed for the winter and slaughter buyers are there for sure. Seller are apparently very motivated to move her on before the auction.

    She is apparently broke to ride but we are trying to think of options...would sport pony breeders be interested in an unregistered mare? Or stick to notifying small adults who might take her on as a resale project?

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    If she is unregistered - how do you know she is a TB?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Equibrit
      If she is unregistered - how do you know she is a TB?
      My question exactly! And, what is her breeding if you happen to know (thinking you know the pedigree but she was never registered)?
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      • #4
        If the mare is a nice horse with a nice temperment there could be kids or small woman that would be interested. I dont see what difference registration would make if she would make a nice pleasure horse. Whether she is a full TB or just looks TB and is a cross doesnt really matter for riding. Breeding ??? I hope she finds a home.

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        • #5
          Since the OP was asking specifically for Breeding, the pedigree needs to be known based on her size (could be lots of size lurking in the background). That being said, 14 hands is good for breeding for smalls and mediums.
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          • #6
            Anyway, we are trying to think about the kind of buyer that might be interested...if she does not sell by the end of the month she is going to the live stock auction and her odds there are not great,
            Are you in Alberta?
            She might be able to go for a pony chuck broodmare if she is quick. Or even cutting, with training.
            If you really like her put some training into her and re-sell. Talk to some of the local trainers where young people are to find a buyer, I know some if you are in Alberta.
            I know this is blasphemy on this board, but many young people (mostly their parents) that are trying to lean to ride without spending a ton of money, don’t really give a fat rat’s butt who the horse is related to, they just want a safe, sound partner. There is a whole level of riding that knows nothing of bloodlines and such.
            It really depends on how quiet and safe she is.

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              Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
              If she is unregistered - how do you know she is a TB?
              I don't. And that is the point really, she sure looks like a TB, the seller says she is a TB but without papers.....no verification. My friend is hoping to save an apparently nice little mare from a likely bad end.
              We are working on a list of small adult riders that we think might be interested in a re-sale project and I'm wondering if we should get the word out to breeders as well. I'm just trying to gather information for us to act on.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mozart View Post
                I don't. And that is the point really, she sure looks like a TB, the seller says she is a TB but without papers.....no verification. My friend is hoping to save an apparently nice little mare from a likely bad end.
                We are working on a list of small adult riders that we think might be interested in a re-sale project and I'm wondering if we should get the word out to breeders as well. I'm just trying to gather information for us to act on.
                Is she tattooed? It is very easy to get new papers from the Jockey Club. If she is, she can be approved in several different WB mare registries.

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                • #9
                  Is it possible that she is a twin?

                  That could account for the small size and no papers.

                  Can you post a picture of her?
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                  • #10
                    Yes, post a picture.
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                      #11
                      I just have the electronic ad that my friend forwarded to me, the ad says she is unregistered so I think it is more than just lost papers. If unregistered I don't imagine she would have a tatoo.

                      Her picture is awfully cute but I can't track down any info on sire and dame. Sire is allegedly Ego Ridge and dam is Mochian Sea. No google result and nothing on allpedigree for those names....

                      I don't know why I keep thinking about his mare...grr....bad friend for sending me the picture!

                      Maybe I can e-mail to anyone wanting to see the pic? The pic is an ad and I don't have seller's permission to post pic of their horse and also I don't want to incur the wrath of the mods for advertising.

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                      • #12
                        what about polo? Do they have to be registered?
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                        • #13
                          There is a Mochian Sea in the Jockey Club's list of recently released names;
                          https://www.registry.jockeyclub.com/...TOKEN=66784365

                          Ego Ridge was registered in 1999 http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y

                          Mochian Sea was registered in 1998 http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...tor=Y&x=34&y=8

                          Both from Manitoba.

                          If you run a hypothetical breeding you will see there were 5 foals and two mares.
                          Last edited by Equibrit; Oct. 20, 2009, 05:00 PM.
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                          • #14
                            You obviously care about this horse. Are you in a position to buy now and ask questions later? Hopefully????

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                              Sire
                              http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y

                              Dam
                              http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y

                              The owners of the dam are listed if you want to check.

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                              • #16
                                The mare is most likely too small for polo. The still have to be able to support a full-grown man (most likely) at speed hanging off of them. Polo ponies do not need to be registered.


                                You are correct, she cannot have a tattoo if she is unregistered. They get the tattoo when they get their gate card and therefor would have to have papers. I think important questions would be movement, temperment, jumping ability, in addition to any pedigree if it is known.
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                                • #17
                                  I have 2 thoroughbred twins, one is a wonderful broodmare, the other never has come into heat...Both registered, one actully tatooed( couldn't find a jockey small enough) The other is turning into a wonderful lg pony.....They are not related...People on the track know I like them small
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                                  • #18
                                    If she actually is by those parents, she's got 3/4 of a very nice sport horse pedigree. Sire line to Cox's Ridge, and the dam's lines are gorgeous.
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                                      Thanks for the info everyone. I think we are going to move word around locally to see if we can get some interest in the pony and if they still have her come auction time we might move on to Plan B.

                                      I've never been to this particular auction and planned to never go but it may come to that. Perhaps if we keep moving her between my farm and my friend's farm our DH's will never catch on???? She's only 14hh after all....

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                                      • #20
                                        IF those are her parents, she is very nicely bred. She would make a nice pony broodmare. Hunter people/hunter pony people don't seem to care so much about registration. She could be a very nice find.
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