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  • In Germany and need help!

    I just moved to Germany two months ago after selling my lovely young event horse in the states. I had grand plans for buying a nice young horse here in Germany that would hopefully make an upper level event horse that would be competitive on both sides of the pond. I am used to Thoroughbreds and am looking for a horse with some gas in the tank. I have looked at lots of attractive horses but none with enough TB to give me that feeling that I will get somewhere on the cross country. I want a young horse, like 4 or 5, that I can make. Any advice on trainers, studfarms etc that would be good to contact? I have been to Bremen, Bielefeld, Bonn, Munich etc..but maybe I am not going to the right people. Any advice would be great, and it doesn't have to be in Germany. Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    Send you a PM
    Perfection is not attainable, but when we chase perfection, we can catch excellence - Vince Lombardi



    • #3
      Sent you a PM - good luck with your search!
      Jan Marquardt
      Walkabout Station - www.walkaboutstation.com


      • #4
        Would help to know where are you located.

        There are lots of horses out there you'll find one!


        • #5
          PM sent!
          I'd rather be riding!


          • Original Poster

            Thanks for all the info already. I will pursue those avenues. We are in Kaiserslautern, Germany which is Western Germany in the Rhineland Pfaltz region. My husband is army so we aren't millionaires either. It seems to be a buyers market here with the economy in the tank but the dollar is in the tank too. I looked at some Romanian horses near Munich this weekend and they were the best I have seen so far.


            • #7
              The sale center of the local RPS registry is just up the road from you.

              Let me do some digging, I might be able to find you the contact address for the regional eventer club. The got a big shindig in Zweibruecken, a stone's throw in the other direction from you.


              (scroll down to RPF, Mehlingen is also near by, towards Mainz)

              (probably dated tho)

              (nifty calendar, if you go, eat some cake for me!) August 21st-23rd, big to do, in Zweibruecken, don't miss it!

              Last edited by Alagirl; Aug. 9, 2009, 07:49 PM.


              • #8
                Drive trough the chunnel and look at some really good horses in UK.
                \"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound\".


                • #9
                  I remember when I was there last year, State and land gestuet Marbach was breeding rather heavily for eventing.

                  The ninja monkeys are plotting my demise as we speak....


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fernie fox View Post
                    Drive trough the chunnel and look at some really good horses in UK.

                    Or France....MAN, she has a shmorgesboard of horses all around her!!!!!

                    BTW, the nearest track with trainers is Frankfurt/Main, a bit far to ride exercise, but you can go and ask... worst they can say is no....


                    • #11
                      Many of the horses bred in the Rheinland-Pfalz region have a Thoroughbred or Trakehner mare base, so you should be able to find something. Get in touch with RPSI at RHPSI@aol.com and they can put you in contact with Otto Schalter who is the judge for the North American inspection tour and will understand what you are searching for. You can also try Edgar Langen at http://www.hubertushof-gestuet.de/kontakt.html or Harald Hoffmann at http://www.pferdekenner.de/web/en/start_en.html . Good luck!!


                      • #12
                        Hey that is where I used to live (graduated from KAHS!!)!!!

                        I used to ride at a place in one of the villages in that area - the trainer was an ex-steeple chase jockey. If I can find the name I'll send it to you (but it was about 20 years ago so he may or may not be around anymore). He hooked me up with a guy that lived in Horbach (the village that I llived in) that had a few race horses. I would ride them out in the woods and exercise them (this was obviously when they were about to be in a race but were in the "down time") so there are some around....

                        I also know of a breeding operation in the Bitburg area that has Trakehners. Not sure if she will ever sell any of her stock but you never know... PM me if you are interested.

                        You just made me homesick/nostalgic!
                        Emerald Acres standing the ATA, Trakehner Verband, sBs, RPSI, and ISR/OLD NA Approved Stallion, Tatendrang. Visit us at our Facebook Farm Page as well!


                        • #13
                          Sale here in Ireland this week of TB 3 and 4 yo's. There will be quite a few in the 2000euro and under range.

                          COTH, keeping popcorn growers in business for years.

                          "I need your grace to remind me to find my own." Snow Patrol-Chasing Cars. This line reminds me why I have horses.


                          • #14
                            Hmm, well I don't know much about this, but when I was there we went to Luhmuhlen, it's in the general area of the places you mentioned. The whole town is an eventing town....basically everyone that lives there events (you must know of this, they have the big event course there?). Anyways, there was a big sales barn of event horses.

                            Andreas Dobowski is also in that area, maybe it would be worth a check? He was super nice and helpful when we visited to see a stallion.

                            "Simple: Breeding,Training, Riding". Wolfram Wittig.


                            • #15
                              have to second Andreas Dibowski, but he may be a bit too upscale and they have a eventing horse sale going on at some point of the year. I know quite a few others with horses that would suite the 3 day career. And we have just sold one of those to - Ireland !
                              Southern Germany / Kaiserslautern is not really the horse country in Germany especially not if you are on a budget. Try Lower Saxony and the Hanoverian breed. And someone I really value a lot: Adam Liedermann !
                              Send you a PM in addition with some link to a 3day forum in Germany !
                              Last edited by alexandra; Aug. 10, 2009, 10:07 AM.
                              I am not responsible for spelling misstacks - just my PC
                              2017: March: Filly by Lissaro - SPS Don Frederico - SPS Prince Thatch
                              May: Finnigan - Sandro Hit - SPS Rouletto


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by alexandra View Post
                                have to second Andreas Dibowski, but he may be a bit to upscale and they have a eventing horse sale going on at some point of the year. I know quite a few others with horses that would suit the 3 day career. And we have just sold one of those to - Ireland !
                                Southern Germany / Kaiserslautern is not really the horse country in Germany especially not if you are on a budget. Try Lower Saxony and the Hanoverian breed. And someone I really alue a lot: Adam Liedermann !
                                Send you a PM in addition with some link to a 3day forum in Germany !
                                LOL, the horsey scene is very active there, of course you can't comapre it to up north....but people are busy.

                                The again, I am partial to the area, it's the motherland, after all!


                                • #17
                                  I'd second the suggestion to come to the UK. If you book in advance flights are ridiculously cheap, sometimes less than £20. The British and Irish studbooks are 1st and 2nd in the WBFSH rankings for breeding eventers, we breed a lot of them so there are a lot to choose from.

                                  Good sites for horses for sale are www.horsequest.co.uk and www.horsemart.co.uk
                                  If you go to Horsequest, then click on eventers and then on youngstock and scroll down there is a very pretty buckskin 3yo, Connemara x Kings Composer. That is probably very nice indeed. Connie x TB is a super mix as they tend to be brave, sensible, trainable and sound. The only problem with them is that they are often quite small. If that one is 15.2 at 3 she may make 15.3+ which is big enough for most lady riders and the same size as the double gold medallist Charisma!
                                  And if you scroll down quite a lot further there is a 3yo by Weston Justice (advanced event stallion and well regarded eventing sire) out of a full sister to a **** eventer. He looks very nice in the photos and if he lives up to his breeding he could be outstanding.

                                  Sires to look out for include Mill Law, Weston Justice, possibly Future Illusion although he is very young and unproven as yet in competition, Java Tiger (if you can find any!) Remezzo, Tromeros, Shaab, Rock King, Kings Composer, Primitive Proposal, Hot Rumour, Master Imp, Cruising, I could go on. If you want a dash more warmblood there are Fleetwater Opposition, Chilli Morning and Wish Upon a Star. There are dozens of top class event sires and bloodlines over here and sadly prices are not sky high.


                                  • #18
                                    I answered your PM, just so you know, now is a great time to be buying in France, with the lousy economy breeders are having some trouble selling their horses, esp. the young ones, so lots of good bargains available on the market right now!


                                    • #19
                                      If your heart is set on a TB, then do as Terri suggested and go to one of the NH sales at Tattersalls etc.
                                      You will get,
                                      a) a TB
                                      b) one that's NH bred, so bred to jump
                                      c) 3/4/5 yo,
                                      d) usually unbroken, or maybe longlined or barely under saddle, so you make the horse.
                                      e) cheap, probably cheaper than the equivalent aged WB on the continent.


                                      • #20
                                        Believe it or not, she is sitting in the middle of race country. The area is dotted with small and medium sized tracks and many owner/trainers all around.

                                        Dates for the Baden Baden sales, the 'Keenland' of Germany...