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    Can anyone recommend some dual purpose jumper/dressage stallions? I am not looking to produce a hunter, definitely want more of a dressage mover, but with the ability to jump as well. The pedigree of the mare in question is here http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/eirianna The mare already has a lot of jumping talent and lots of knee action when she moves and a very uphill neck. I would like to see a shorter back and more uphill build (she is croup high). She also has what I consider a "jumper" hind end with a straighter hind leg. Would like to see her have more elastic movement and more hock action, without losing the jumping ability. Also prefer a stallion know for throwing more mellow babies. Frozen semen or fresh chilled available in Canada would be good. I've been thinking of Le Primeur or Banderas. Any other ideas?
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    I'm not commenting on the ones you mentioned, but would encourage you to also look at Edgar's stallions. Rainbowequus.com I have nothing but wonderful things to say about how they handled my breeding needs this summer.

    There are other SO on this board who also have dual purpose stallions. I'm sure you will get lots of ideas.

    You should post pictures (I just love to look at horses).
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    • #3
      Look at Balta'czar www.jumpstartfarm.com
      He's done hunters, jumpers, and dressage as have his babies. He also mellows a hot mare, strengthens the back, has fantastic motility fresh and frozen, and is just an awesome horse in general. Oh and he can't throw a chestnut, and he throws tons of chrome- just a bonus, if your into that type of thing.
      Saret Tola , his owner, stands a bunch of stallions, is very good at collection and knowlageable about bloodlines. If she doesn't think a cross will work, she'll tell you up front what would work better and she'll recomend a stallion that will cross well, even if it's not one of hers.
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      • #4
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        • #5
          Pablo shortened the back on one of my mares.

          Offspring is Pablo's Dylano on warmbloods-for-sale.

          A couple conformation photos there.

          I've been hearing that a lot of people are liking the Pablos for the hunter ring.

          My Dylano is flat kneed so he could go there easily.

          Saret sure has added a lot of stallions to her roster.
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            #6
            Oakstable, Your Pablo gelding is super cute! I actually inquired about him a while ago when I was looking for a young prospect. The mare in question on this thread is the horse I ended up getting.
            I should mention that I am really trying to stay away from stallions that throw hunter type movement. This mare has a lot of high knee action and I would like to preserve that.
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            • #7
              Forte,
              Thanks.

              He is a doll. Doing really well now in limited training.

              I also have a Pablo filly out of a DIFFERENT mare who is a totally different mover.

              I think Dylano got more of his mother's flat kneed movement. Very long stride.

              I have a video clip finally to show him.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Forte View Post
                Can anyone recommend some dual purpose jumper/dressage stallions? I am not looking to produce a hunter, definitely want more of a dressage mover, but with the ability to jump as well. The pedigree of the mare in question is here http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/eirianna The mare already has a lot of jumping talent and lots of knee action when she moves and a very uphill neck. I would like to see a shorter back and more uphill build (she is croup high). She also has what I consider a "jumper" hind end with a straighter hind leg. Would like to see her have more elastic movement and more hock action, without losing the jumping ability. Also prefer a stallion know for throwing more mellow babies. Frozen semen or fresh chilled available in Canada would be good. I've been thinking of Le Primeur or Banderas. Any other ideas?
                I do like Le Primeur for a "dual purpose" stallion.

                Also, Fabriano. Maybe check out Escudo or Espri.

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                • #9
                  I desire the same type of stallion for my mare, and I have heard very good things about Oskar II's foals.

                  http://www.americantrakehner.com/Stallions/OskarII.asp
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                    #10
                    Forgot to mention that there are some videos of my mare online.
                    Movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdB5eb-b9II
                    First time free jumping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orZjjVw4H3M
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                    • #11
                      Boy, do I see Eastern Ruler when I look at her. In addition to Le Primeur, another Cdn based stallion that will give dual talent, and refinement and good temperament, is Sir Wanabi. Cleaning up in hunters now, he also did well at basic dressage. Very handsome black stallion, good SPT scores.
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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          Another thought: Starlight (frozen). He is Sandro Hit / Cordeur / Argentinus - so loaded with jumping sires in the pedigree - - jumping sires with movement. He will throw large, I believe, so that may be a consideration.
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                          • #14
                            Look at Alcatraz. He produces jumpers, dressage and even a few hunters.
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                            • #15
                              Another one to look at might be Wamberto. He is young and I believe this year is his first for foals on the ground but his bloodlines are a blend of dressage and jumpers. We actually have a filly by him and are very pleased.
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                              • #16
                                I wish Spruce Meadows had offspring photos up for Le Primeur.
                                www.oakhollowstable.blogspot.com

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                                • #17
                                  Well, just a plug for Pablo again; and in my case, he did NOT throw hunter movement. On the contrary, the movement has knee and is quite similar to both Pablo's and the dam's movement

                                  Here are some still photos taken as a 2 year old (sorry, from a video). If you want to see a video of her as a foal, look at the base of my homepage (memorial to her mother Ghlycerine); it has footage of the foal at the end. I don't have any current video uploaded.

                                  http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg

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                                  http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/11...500x500Q85.jpg
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                                  • #18
                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562rXvYaDaM

                                    Pablo filly out of a Dutch Ster mare.
                                    www.oakhollowstable.blogspot.com

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                                    • #19
                                      Well, you know how I feel about Le Primeur but at the same time, the stallion will likely not throw his own type, but will let the mare come through. You will likely keep the round movement and excellent athleticism, as he does appear to throw that. He himself is actually quite rectangular in frame, very much a jumper looking stallion.

                                      However, he does have ideal angles behind, beautiful hind end! Just depends wether or not he throws it. Are you thinking of this year? I have heard his book is closed, but I am not sure?

                                      As for frozen, what about a stallion like Contendro 1? How important is height? He tends to make really rubbery moving offspring with round movement and compact , smaller types. He is supposed to cross well on longer framed, tall mares. He throws beautiful types!

                                      Chequille Z may also suit, or perhaps Conteur from Celle. All from the same , very dual talented Calypso line ...very much know for round movement and excellent type. I actually think I would go Holsteiner with your mare.
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                                      • #20
                                        How about the SF stallion, Juan Valdez Carolina ? www.juanvaldezcar.com. He is performing at the Grand Prix level in dressage. He also has several 1/2 siblings (same mare) competing in Prix St. George and several who are jumpers.

                                        I have one of his 1/2 sisters (same dam) who is my daughter's jumper but she has also shown her through 2nd level dressage. This is a link to some pictures of my mare: http://s608.photobucket.com/albums/t...tie%20D%20Car/
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