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  • RPSI vs OLD vs BWP. WTF?

    With all due respect, what is the preference between these registries? I have an imported branded SF mare due in august to deliver a foal by Redwine. He is approved by these registries. Any big difference? Personal preference? Prettiest brand?
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    I like the BWP brand the best. It's very symmetrical and still interesting. I have horses registered in all of these registries and I have had good experiences with all three. Check out the approvial sites and find the one that suits your needs.
    Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most...now where did I put those marbles...
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    • #3
      I am not going to get into brand snobbery, but some things you might consider are the extent to which a particular registry supports its breeders, proximity of inspection sites, and the availability of programs that promote the development of sport horses. Because networking is an important aspect of effective marketing and provides opportunities to learn from fellow breeders, you might prefer a registry that is favored by breeders you know and admire, or whose programs you would like to emulate, as those are the people who will be attending the same inspections, conventions, etc. that you do (to the extent you choose to be an active member). Also, I would consider the long-term viability of the registry in this country, to the extent that can be evaluated, so as to avoid encountering a situation such as the disappearance of the US affiliate of the SF registry.

      In addition, should you have plans to breed a Redwine filly or colt at some point, consider how the choice of registry might (or might not) impact the selection of a match for that horse. For example, if you have a filly and get her registered RPSI, would she have more or less stallion options available to her than she would if registered OLD-NA (assuming you would want papers for the resulting foal)?
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      • #4
        I think it is just who you like to work with the best, which inspection is closest and maybe whether they have an awards program you might take advantage off. That last breeding example does not even matter as they all accept mares and stallions for breeding from each other.
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        • #5
          That last breeding example does not even matter as they all accept mares and stallions for breeding from each other.

          Not necessarily Edgar, IE: The KWPN does not recognize RPSI or OLD Na as Erkend studbooks, so if you bred your RPSI registered mare to an approved KWPN stallion, I believe Reg. B is the only option for the foal.
          (A good friend of mine just inquired about this. To further complicate, the mare herself is by a Foalbook KWPN stallion, o/o a TB mother, but registered RPSI. Same mare w/ GOV papers could have Reg. A foals)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by sixpoundfarm View Post
            Not necessarily Edgar, IE: The KWPN does not recognize RPSI or OLD Na as Erkend studbooks, so if you bred your RPSI registered mare to an approved KWPN stallion, I believe Reg. B is the only option for the foal.
            (A good friend of mine just inquired about this. To further complicate, the mare herself is by a Foalbook KWPN stallion, o/o a TB mother, but registered RPSI. Same mare w/ GOV papers could have Reg. A foals)
            I thought AHS too does not necessarily accept ISR/RPSI, etc. They have to approve the pedigree first.
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            • #7
              If you read the OP you see that KWPN and AHS are not options, I am talking about the options for this subject. For the other registries it depends on the pedigree.
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              • #8
                As I only have horses registered with AHS and KWPN, coincidentally, most of my experience is with these registries and that is why I raised the issue as I was not sure if the other registries have similar restrictions (and why I said "might (or might not) impact"). Also, a lot of people reading these boards may have a similar dilemma and not realize that their situation may be distinct in a material way from the OPs, and thus choice of registry would impact their future options.
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                • #9
                  Since WTF is not an accepted option OLDNA seems like the most mainstream considering the comments...
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                  • #10
                    Maybe I'm missing something, but Redwine isn't approved BWP. So that crosses off that option

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                    • #11
                      I'd go with WTF...

                      In all seriousness, I think OldNA gives you more options than RPSI. But it also depends on how active a registry is in your area (both geographically and by the discipline of choice).
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                      • #12
                        Not to go down the road of "huge fight about registries", but I'll put a vote in for RPSI. Since it is a German Verband, I think it will be accepted more than a non-European Registry. (by other European Verbands)

                        It has a pretty brand too
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                          #13
                          Maybe I will just brand a big smiley face on his/her a$$ . Or a giant $ sign with a circle around it and a line through it. I'm starting my own registry. And it will be the WTF registry. All aboard!
                          "To my Gub... Godspeed my friend, till we meet again." 1996-2007.
                          Runway (Sasha) 2009 Zweibrucker filly by Redwine.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gubbyz View Post
                            Maybe I will just brand a big smiley face on his/her a$$ . Or a giant $ sign with a circle around it and a line through it. I'm starting my own registry. And it will be the WTF registry. All aboard!
                            I'm in!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gubbyz View Post
                              Maybe I will just brand a big smiley face on his/her a$$ . Or a giant $ sign with a circle around it and a line through it. I'm starting my own registry. And it will be the WTF registry. All aboard!
                              I'm in Nor-Cal too - count me in, and add me to the registry board of directors My horses are now officially branded WTF!
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                              • #16
                                First you need to wait and see which registry accepts the stallion that you have bred to.

                                Secondly BWP accepts Non-BWP stallions http://www.belgianwarmblood.com/bwp_...stallions.html

                                Thirdly, American BWP approved stallions are fully accepted in Belgium and BWP is acceptable to other European Registries.

                                Fourth: BWP took all the SF horses into their registry when SF in the US ended

                                Lastly, BWP has some really good people who work hard, to make the registry worthwhile. We also have some lovely stallions and mares too!
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                                  #17
                                  eyesontheground and fresianx welcome to WTF registry! Now pour your self a strong one and let the first meeting come to order!
                                  "To my Gub... Godspeed my friend, till we meet again." 1996-2007.
                                  Runway (Sasha) 2009 Zweibrucker filly by Redwine.

                                  "Silence is golden...and duct tape is silver."

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by gubbyz View Post
                                    eyesontheground and fresianx welcome to WTF registry! Now pour your self a strong one and let the first meeting come to order!
                                    Wait. Is the brand shaped like a shot glass? No, wait. Perhaps a rocks glass . . . May I join, too & nominate my stallion for, er, approval? (he'll just have a beer, if that's okay).
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                                      You guys are too much.
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                                      • #20
                                        I'm with NoDQhere............As far as I know, the only extra you may have is joining the new registry (other than the one you initially register her with) and having your mare approved where the stallion you choose is also approved (if she's not already approved in another registry)...if everything else is equal (inspection location proximity to your farm, etc) I believe all your above referenced registries papers are recognized by the others.

                                        Although, I admit, it is cheaper in the long run to stick with one registry (for instance I am taking my two mares/foals to the RPSI in Tallahassee this month vs. the Oldenburg Verband in Ocala............because I'm happy with the registry, their people and service, but ALSO because it would have cost me to rejoin the Oldenburg Verband, get the mare approved in THEIR mare book (already paid to have this OLDENBURG mare approved in RPSI's for last year's foal)...plus drive there hours each way (gas and time expense) plus a motel cost and meals. In this economy I felt this was the right decision for me.
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