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HELP-What color is this yearling pony?? UPDATE WITH DNA RESULTS

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  • HELP-What color is this yearling pony?? UPDATE WITH DNA RESULTS

    I have a yearling welsh colt that I registered with the WPCSA as liver chestnut but after the thread about liver chestnuts....well, I am not sure he is liver chestnut anymore. He certainly looked like that was what he was going to be when he was shedding out his foal coat-he was born bright red chestnut with chestnut mane and tail. Then he had dark brown circles around his eyes and liver chestnut looking winter coat. This spring he has now shed out to have a red chestnut looking face, lighter body, mottled legs, and flaxen with silver mane and tail! And he has a darker stripe down his back. He is registered half-welsh but is a purebred, dam is fleabitten grey, Hillcrest's Blue Angel (Gayfield's Vida Blue x Farnley Gorse) and sire is black, Ledinjadon Hoo Me (Ledinjadon Tuxedo x Land's End Hermia). Can any of you color experts please help me with his color? I am really curious to know. I have more photos if you need them but it is hard to get anything but an action or extreme close-up of him!

    I had to put a link because my photos were too large here??
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    Thank you!
    Last edited by Summerwood; May. 1, 2009, 04:02 PM. Reason: to add that he's a pony!
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    He is very cute!
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      Thanks, he thinks so too!
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      • #4
        Wow, interesting! He sure looks like he has a silver gene.
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        • #5
          Looks like a classic silver bay to me.

          There's a DNA test for silver (Z-) I'll bet $5 he comes back A/- E/- Z/-
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          • #6
            I would bet that its a flaxen chestnut going gray.
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            • #7
              I'd say that he looks like a silver bay, however, if you really look he has a lot of pangare going on as well. I think he might be a flaxen liver with pangare lightening him up even further. He is gorgeous. What are his sire and dam's coloring??

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              • #8
                Silver bay! And adorable!!!
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                • #9
                  I am no help with the color but is is very very cute!!!
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                  • #10
                    I think it's worth testing his Extension, Agouti, and Silver status. At this stage I can see arguments for either Silver Bay or liver w/ flaxen.

                    I'm confuse though, maybe I'm not seeing things right - how many white legs does he really have?
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                    • #11
                      Foals often have light colored legs that become mottled looking and darker as they lose their baby coat.

                      This one looks like a silver bay.

                      I don't think it's what's called a silver dapple. That's more of a sepia (very brown, not as red) tone, whether lighter or darker.

                      THis one has the richer reddish coloring and silvered-out mane and tale that looks like a silver bay. It also appears the legs are darkening as he grows which isn't unusual. Silver bay is not unusual in some pony breeds. He looks like he will have one hind stocking, but I'd rather wait and see for sure.

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                      • #12
                        So cute!!!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slc2 View Post
                          Foals often have light colored legs that become mottled looking and darker as they lose their baby coat.
                          I know, but in a couple of those pictures he really, truly looks like he has high *white* stockings.
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                            Thanks everyone for the compliments. I think he is really something myself but I am of course biased .

                            His dam is fleabitten grey and sire was black. Here is a link to his pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/summ...rhythm+n+blues

                            I believe he will only have one sock in the back, the other legs are actually dappled or mottled looking. I have never seen anything like his color before so maybe he is turning into some other color. I will have to get him tested because now I just have to know! I don't know if you can tell from the photos but his eyelashes are a lighter tan (for lack of a better word) color and his mane and tail have dark silver in them.
                            Last edited by Summerwood; Apr. 23, 2009, 09:14 AM. Reason: add
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                            • #15
                              Sad to say but he just looks like a baby going grey fast to my eyes. My friend has what looks like a CLASSIC red roan filly right now- but she;s really just bay going grey.
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                              • #16
                                I vote for silver bay as well. Here is the one we had.

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                                • #17
                                  I also vote liver chestnut going grey.
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                                    SabinoPonyLover, I have to say that he does look a lot like your pony!!!

                                    I would fall on the floor if he turned grey. I would never have guessed anyone to say he was going to do that. He does have a lot of light areas but they are not grey they are more the flaxen color that is in his mane.
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                                    • #19
                                      IMHO, he was born much too light, legs too light, to be going gray.
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                                      • #20
                                        Wow, no guesses at all...

                                        but the stockings thing!!! I'm with JB--one foal pic I'd swear he had four stockings! I've never seen one change like that... (but then I only do 'easy' colours like tobi )
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