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    Eventing stallion suggestions

    Posting for a friend who has a very experienced Advanced mare to breed, possibly doing ET this year. The mare has had foals previously but not for several years, the owner has an excellent repro vet and is searching for Mr. Right for her girl. She is not particular about registry preferences/affiliations. A sire who is proven is more appealing than a new kid on the block FWIW...

    The mare could use -
    Elasticity
    A bit more bone
    Not a lot of size (she's 16.2 and solid)

    So please share your suggestions.
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    I'll suggest stallions that we have looked at for one of our big, good moving TB mares.

    Formula One (this would be my pick)
    Aberjack
    State of the Art
    Sepmatico

    Johanna
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      #3
      Eventing Stallions

      Formula One (this would be my pick)
      Aberjack
      State of the Art
      Sepmatico

      Johanna

      Johanna - do you have links of websites for any of these stallions? I am also on the market for Mr. Right for my gal.

      Thanks

      Robin

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        #4
        My mare is in foal to Worthy Opponent, and I'm hoping to get an eventer. He is definitely a new kid on the block so I'm not sure if he's what you want, but I mention him because he fits all the criteria that your friend's mare needs. He's 16.2 with good bone but not heavy, and amazingly elastic. The elasticiy is what sold me on him - I put the DVD in and my first thought was "Wow that looks like so much fun to ride!"

        http://www.vineyardeventing.com/Wort...WorthyOpp.html

        Another stallion at the top of my list was Innkeeper
        http://enavantstud.com/innkeeper.html

        Good luck!

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          #5
          Eventing stallion choices

          Innkeeper looks very interesting

          Thanks,

          Robin

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            #6
            Puerto D'Azur is proven to throw good eventing prospects. There are several now in the Novice and up to Advanced stage now. If you look up Griffin X ridden by JR rider Seth Tousey, the pair are getting ready for their debut at Advanced soon. That is one of Puertos older babies.
            Puerto leaves next week for his new owner in CA, but she will still offer him to breeding to the public.
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              #7
              Cicera's Icewater
              Mighty Magic
              http://www.cngsporthorses.com

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                #8
                Salute The Truth and A Fine Romance.
                Jumbo and Catherston Dazzler are both lovely as well.
                -Jessica

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                  #9
                  Two Trakehners would be Stiletto and Windfall. People who have Windfoals seem to love them, per threads here, and he's certainly good at dressage.

                  And for sheer ability, Brandenburg's Windstar at Phyllis Dawson's is worth a look.

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                    #10
                    I love Hilltop's Riverman as an event sire. You might want to PM Ponygirl about hers... BNRs and trainers are drooling over her Riverman and the Riverman's daughter
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                      Originally posted by Robin E View Post

                      Johanna - do you have links of websites for any of these stallions? I am also on the market for Mr. Right for my gal.

                      Thanks

                      Robin
                      Formula One: http://www.tamarackhill.com/Stallions/F1.htm
                      Aberjack: http://www.tamarackhill.com/Stallions/aberjack.htm
                      State of the Art: http://www.silverwoodfarm.com/stateoftheart.html
                      Sempatico: http://www.silverwoodfarm.com/sempatico.html

                      I bred a mare to Sempatico the first year he was here - the intention was to get a dressage-y foal, but the buyer is going to event him. He was a gorgeous colt.

                      Edited to add a link to a recent thread on the Eventing board on Favorite Sires: http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum...d.php?t=177472
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                        #12
                        Proven sires of 4* eventers standing in North America:

                        Brandenburg's Windstar

                        Combines great Irish TB (I'm a Star) and Irish Draught (Sea Crest and King of Diamonds) eventing lines, has already produced a 4* eventer (Alison Springer's mount Arthur), has several more coming up the ranks, and produces horses successfully competing in straight dressage. His kids are not giants.

                        Pallas Digion

                        Sire of Daisy Dick's Springalong, British 3 Day Team Bejing and European Championships Gold medal team 2007, Team silver 2006. Combines Irish TB Ceredigion with Irish Draught blood through Flagmount Boy. Other progeny include 2* eventers Bailey Wick and Three Wishes.


                        And if you're lucky enough to live close to him for live cover, there is:

                        Comet Shine, sire of Becky Douglas' Courageous Comet!

                        Happy shopping!

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                          #13
                          Eventing Stallion choices

                          Hello Liz:

                          It's Robin from the IDHS NA - I know you are a pedigree wonk and I just wonder since my mare is by It's the Luck of the Irish and most of the stallions (ISH) in NA are of that line as well. Too close? I know if she were a TB I woudl nto be looking for a stallion with the same grandsire or great-grand sire.

                          But then I cannot wrap my head around line breeding and other thoughts on the indexes co-efficients etc. It makes me cross-eyed! LOL

                          I am thrilled to see a son of Cruising, USA Cruising standing in the US and now may have to re-think breeding my TB broodmare back to a TB this year....

                          I had never heard of Pllas Digion who does look lovely and adore Brandenburg's Windstar but they both are King of Diamonds as well though and while USA Cruising is also ..... I also like that Brandenburg's Windstar does NOT produce giants - I don't need or want one.

                          I also have been thinking that for my gal I want to stay away from the ID and perhpas get some Warmblood in there as long as they have trainability and good temperaments - Someone emailed me OL about the stallion Gatsby who looks super. www.foxdalefarm.us

                          So many men so little time - only 1 ID mare to breed LOL

                          Robin

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                            #14
                            Well...I'm breeding my TB mare to Escudo I and hoping for a top level eventer (with my trainer not me!). But he is known for ridability. She is a good mover and jumper but needed a touch more substance.

                            http://www.superiorequinesires.com/s...s/escudo_i.htm

                            My trainer suggested him...has a 3 year that he thinks very nice.

                            I'm still picking my fresh cooled back up boyfriend...and am considering ISF Riverman http://www.ironspringfarm.com/horses...&sc=warmbloods

                            His video looks good, solid pedigree, solid offspring and I'm going to go and check him out in person soon. He's near by so that also has an appeal.

                            I have an Aberjack mare out of a TB. She's nice...a good ammy horse in a lot of ways. She will hopefully do her first CCI* this summer...just turning 7 this summer.

                            I also really like Jaguar Mail...several eventers have bred to him....and I am thinking maybe next one will be him.
                            http://www.frenchstallions.org/frenc...uar%20head.jpg


                            I've talked to a lot of people with experience in breeding for eventers....and all have recommended not sticking with just eventing stallions. The sport has just changed so much. So I'm sticking with stallions that are both good movers and good jumpers......and know that my mare has the heart for the xc.

                            There are a TON of good choices out there!
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Robin E View Post
                              I just wonder since my mare is by It's the Luck of the Irish and most of the stallions (ISH) in NA are of that line as well. Too close? I know if she were a TB I woudl nto be looking for a stallion with the same grandsire or great-grand sire.
                              Hi Robin! I didn't "recognize" you

                              I would have no problem going 4x4 to KOD (say with your girl and Brandenburg's Windstar) BUT if you are going for an eventer with this breeding you may get something a bit heavy for the top of the sport since your girl seems to lean a bit to her ID side from my recollection. I'd be inclined to go with your gut and look for a low percentage ISH, TB, or WB.

                              (sorry for the detour everyone!)

                              ETA: I think horsetales was looking at Gatsby for one of her RID mares...you may want to talk to her about him.

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                                #16
                                Don't forget about emco's frozen stallions - several sires of 4* eventers there too:

                                http://www.emcostallionservices.com

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Waterwitch View Post
                                  Don't forget about emco's frozen stallions - several sires of 4* eventers there too:

                                  http://www.emcostallionservices.com
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                                    #18
                                    You guys are great!

                                    Thanks for all the great suggestions! We'll start doing the research side of things pronto! The frozen boys are very, very tempting but this mare has had a quite a few years holiday from breeding and is getting up there in years...so fresh semen is the best option, honestly.

                                    Please keep the suggestions coming with one keyword in mind - elasticity!
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                                      #19
                                      For TBs I would go with
                                      Innkeeper
                                      http://www.pedigreequery.com/innkeeper or this guy
                                      Sir Juli Go
                                      http://www.pedigreequery.com/sir+juli+go
                                      1993 Rocamadour - Juliaana Go, by Peace Corps
                                      Kimberly Smith Fleming DBA Hidden Echo Fm
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                                      I had some really nice trot and jump pics from his "people" (he was eventing himself after coming off the track and has had foals at the FEH things). He retired SOUND off the track after 135 starts.
                                      Other folks can do better wit WB and ID stallions for eventing though strictly elastitciy wise the nicest moving foal I saw recently was by Pablo
                                      http://www.rainbowequus.com/Pablo.htm
                                      the foal was very droolworthy and Edgar is super easy to deal with as an SO having used Grandom in the past.
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                                        #20
                                        What breed is the mare? It's hard to give good suggestions with such little input.

                                        That said I will second the Cicera's Icewater suggestion. I've seen foals from him out of TB mares as well as Han., Holst., OLD, etc.

                                        He certainly brings atheticism and movement. Great trainability and improves the topline. Good bone on the legs as well but does not really add depth of body.

                                        His mother is full sibling to the great Cavalier Royale and bred by the same breeders. His family has produced many many international eventing and jumper sporthorses.

                                        You can see him at; www.westwiththewind.com

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