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  • Milk Testing

    What is the best milk testing kit? I used Chemetrics before, but I see there are a few options now at Valley Vet. Since I don't know my mares breeding date, I think I better order a kit soon.
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    I absolutely LOVE Chemetrics. I have also used the spa testing strips that pintopiaffe recomends. I like those in conjunction with the Chemetrics, but I'm not confident enough with them to just rely on them.

    The Chemetrics is reliable enough for me that I don't anticipate trying anything new this year.

    I can't WAIT until my first mare is due! I can hardly stand it!!! I'm so excited -- it is really hard to wait patiently!
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    • #3
      Where is the best place to buy both of those test strips?
      Stephanie Smith
      www.SundownFarmVA.com

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      • #4
        Believe it or not, I get fabulous results using aquarium test strips bought at Walmart for $10. I bought them after reading pintopiaffe's instructions and it worked perfectly!

        You just need calcium and pH readings - these strips give much more but the other readings aren't necessary.

        They worked like a charm last year.... just mix milk to distilled water 1:6 (so 1cc milk to 6cc distilled water), and dip. EASY! Then read and record. The pH I found was the most indicative reading.

        Each of our 4 mares foaled within 24hrs of the pH dropping to LESS THAN 6.4. You have to get strips that read below 6.8 because a couple of our mares went 3-4 days at 6.8 and then finally dropped to 6.2 before foaling... so we'd have had many sleepless nights if our test hadn't read to 6.0.

        The calcium will gradually increase also, and once it goes to 200 or so, the pH usually starts falling. At foaling the calcium was 300ppm+ and pH of ~6.2.

        I am a real believer after seeing it work 4 times in a row, and this was our first year doing this vs. the red squares test, which tests calcium but not pH, and that causes the 5 square red reading for a few days sometimes as what you don't know is that the pH is not low enough yet = sleepless nights.

        Hope this helps, PM me if you want all the details! No sense in buying fancy kits when you can use $10 strips (for 25 I think?) and $1 gallon of distilled water and it works like a charm.
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        • #5
          I like the spa strips best, though this year I hope to try Chemetrics to compare. I used to use the "Mare Foaling Predictor Kit" which was OK, but could really leave you hanging too. I tried a couple others that are just calcium tests...

          But I find pH on top of calcium to really narrow it down. I've only missed one day of work per mare (I work NIGHTS) for foaling since switching to pH. Which is a truly big deal for me because we get in trouble (as in docked sick time) if we book out w/out a Dr.s note.

          I'll see if I can find the reference thread... http://chronicleforums.com/Forum/sho...d.php?t=140453
          InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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          • #6
            I am another Chemetrics fan.
            Mary Lou
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            • #7
              If anyone intends to use spa/aquarium test strips (which we had great success with last year) and is OCD about the big gaps in pH (like me!)... or if you're ordering Chemetrics and want to check pH as well, consider buying narrow-range strips through a scientific vendor. They are very cheap (think $10-20 for 100 strips) and usually you can get down to .25 steps instead of .5 or 1.0 step changes.

              Carbonate hardness testing strips that have a more refined range are around $40 for 100 strips and rarely go above 425ppm... So Chemetrics or the aquarium strips come out ahead here.

              A few links that look promising (but if you have a lab supply outlet near by, check there first);

              http://www.amazon.com/PH-Test-Strips...pr_product_top (80 for $10 + shipping, but never heard of this company)

              http://www.amazon.com/EMD-colorpHast...3862814&sr=1-2 (if you sign up for a fisher account (we use them all of the time at work), these are 100 for $16.52 + shipping on their website) I'm reasonably sure these the the ones we used last year.

              http://vwrlabshop.com/ph-indicator-s...ker/p/0011569/ (4.5-10 intermediate range strips - we also use vwr at work - 100 strips for $22 + shipping)

              I will admit that I was such an excited nerd that I took a bunch of my lab pipetes, tips, tubes with pre-measured ultapure water and mixed milk in small volumes to test with my narrow range strips and the aquarium strips each night. The aquarium strips were fairly accurate for pH, but it was nice to be able to see the smaller step-wise changes.
              RIP Adriane, aka Eyesontheground, 6/4/83-9/14/09
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              • #8
                OMG Seriously, I will be ordering all sort of stuff. Sounds like I am just like you with OCD and have to know every little change!! Thanks for the links and info!!
                Signature Sporthorses
                www.signaturesporthorses.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sniplover View Post
                  I will admit that I was such an excited nerd that I took a bunch of my lab pipetes, tips, tubes with pre-measured ultapure water and mixed milk in small volumes to test with my narrow range strips and the aquarium strips each night. The aquarium strips were fairly accurate for pH, but it was nice to be able to see the smaller step-wise changes.
                  I am such a spaz, the closer they get. I could never get tired of the testing! I find it so fascinating, and fortunately all of my mares have been fabulous to get samples from. The couple that weren't sure at first were easily distracted by a couple of cookies!

                  I can't WAIT for foaling this year. My first one is due March 20, and I already feel like I'm counting the minutes!

                  I'm off to check out the links you posted. I still have a TON of strips that I bought a couple years ago. I've been using them along with the Chemetrics because .... well, it gives more excitement while I'm waiting!!!
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                  • #10
                    I am such a spaz, the closer they get. I could never get tired of the testing! I find it so fascinating, and fortunately all of my mares have been fabulous to get samples from.
                    Part of why I love the Spa strips... $8 or so for 50. Once things start changing, I tend to want to dip a couple of strips. And test AM & PM both.
                    InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                    Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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                    • #11
                      Haha! Our poor mare.. Rectal temps AM and PM, nightly milk testing, then 2/3x daily when things started changing, pictures of her from all sides, udder pictures... and checks on the baby monitor *just in case*. That brat foaled in the morning around 9am while we were all sleep deprived from watching her tease us with promising labor-like dance choreography all night long! LOL. We'll have a really good bead on her when she's ready to foal this year though!
                      RIP Adriane, aka Eyesontheground, 6/4/83-9/14/09
                      Proudly owned by:
                      Veronica II (Vienna Waltz/Woermann)

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                      • #12
                        I too love Chemetrics !!! This will be my 3rd year using them. They helped me so much with not losing a bunch of sleep during foaling season. Usually just a few night per mare. UNLESS... you have a mare who is dripping milk as those girls will test high for days.

                        To get the tests you have to call and order them. Well last year anyway you could not place orders online. I just google the name, get the phone number and call.

                        Good luck and happy testing to all.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Faiths CremelloWB View Post
                          To get the tests you have to call and order them. Well last year anyway you could not place orders online. I just google the name, get the phone number and call.

                          Good luck and happy testing to all.
                          I found this site online to order them, but haven't placed my order yet this year: http://www.foalingwatch.com/ShoppingCart.asp
                          Family Partners Welsh Ponies - Home of Section B Welsh stallion *Wedderlie Mardi Gras LOM/AOE http://www.welshponies.com
                          Click here to buy: A Guide To In Hand Showing of Your Welsh Pony

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                          • #14
                            Chemetrics!!!! A have used them for years and they never let me down.
                            But, like i post each year, YOU HAVE TO WATCH YOU MARE. What seems like a small number on the test (if they had NO number earlier) can mean a change. ANY number JUMP is important. Plus what the mare is doing. I have had them be 80 on the test in the AM, and 180 in the PM. OK, that means a HUGE change. Watch them closely. 180 could mean foaling soon with the big jump. So, watch your mare.
                            I rarely stay up at night. I do have a cam in the foaling stall hooked up to my kitchen and bedroom. Problem with the cam( as great as they are) you have to WATCH them!!! LOl
                            Falling asleep does not help you watch for the mare to be foaling.

                            Happy foaling everyone. I have just 4 due this year. First one due is around the first of March (or so it seems). sandy
                            Sandy
                            www.sugarbrook.com
                            hunter/jumper ponies

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