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  • Stargate Sporthorses

    We heard yesterday that Lisa and Jackie Blackmon are no longer at Stargate Sporthorses. Does anyone know who will be handling the breeding program there? A friend wants to breed to Bergamon this year, but the only phone number she has is for the Blackmons, and they are not returning her calls.
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    We heard yesterday that Lisa and Jackie Blackmon are no longer at Stargate Sporthorses. Does anyone know who will be handling the breeding program there? A friend wants to breed to Bergamon this year, but the only phone number she has is for the Blackmons, and they are not returning her calls.


    • #3
      That's odd. I thought they built and owned Stargate.

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      • #4
        No, Lisa and Jackie did not/do not own Stargate.


        • #5
          There is a farm no. listed on the AHS site and on their website, (940)241-1120 and a fax no. (940)241-1249. Maybe they will work.
          "We don't ride the clock. We ride the horse." Reiner Klimke.


          • #6
            Good grief. The facility there and the huge investment in horses made by the owners was linked to their association with the Blackmons. What an opportunity for the right trainer. Sure hope the owners haven't been soured enough to leave the sport.


            • #7
              Who are the owners? I think that they did some pretty significant "sponsorship" last year in the dressage world (prize money at competitions) - just wondering how much this will "upset the apple cart"?


              • #8
                For whatever reason, the identity of the owners of Stargate has been a mystery to many. With the the different warmblood registries as well as the sponsorship of breed competitions, the contact has always been listed as Lisa and Jackie Blackmon. Even during the USDF symposium at Stargate, most spectators were under the impression that the Blackmons owned the place. To my knowledge, whenever the Blackmons were asked directly who owned Stargate, their response was vague and amounted to "a group of investors". It was odd from the beginning....most generous sponsors enjoy recognition in the horse world and their trainers/riders turn cartwheels to thank them publicly.


                • #9
                  Well corporations can have many stockholders and very often they don't want to be identified. Not unusual - why should the horseworld be any different?

                  If it were "breaking news" everytime trainers moved to another facility - well..........!!! Here in NJ - we always laugh about the annual "change of venue" - often when they are returning from FLA.

                  BTW - I had sen an email to Jackie the other day and had a response the same day. So Chris - perhaps your friend should just send an email. I hope that whomever you "heard" this from is correct - since you announced this on this BB.
                  Summit Sporthorses Ltd. Inc.
                  "Breeding Competition Partners & Lifelong Friends"


                  • #10
                    I think the fact that Stargate Sporthorses was built for and to the specifications of Lisa and Jackie Blackmon makes their reported departure noteworthy, most especially because the facility and the breeding/sales program were in the infancy stages of promotion and recognition. Likewise, I believe it is normal for mare owners who might have chosen to breed to a Stargate stallion to be concerned about who exactly will be in charge of this part of the Stargate business. It could be helpful to know the owner's name, or am I unreasonable?


                    • #11
                      Funny this thread is here. I just got a call n ot 30 min. ago asking if I knew what the deal was.

                      According to the caller (who trains at a barn near there), the Blackmons were escorted off the property by security guards of somekind and it was videotaped. Apparently the gates are closed or are closing soon and boarders are scrambling to find new homes for their horses. Some have ended up at this trainer's place and they are the ones who said Blackmon's were escorted off the property.

                      The relationship between the Blackmon's and the owners was a little mysterious. I was told at one point (and sorry I don't remember who told me...it may have been Jackie) the man who owns MJ Designs and Michael's was one of the main investors. Around here many of the MJ Designs stores were closed in 2003 and I wondered how it would affect Stargate. He had had financial problems in the past. I also believe there was some other investors from California.

                      It is such an incredible facility, I hope that it reopens, but the overhead had to be stupendous.

                      Sorry if I've offended anyone, not trying to be a "gossip monger", just figure out what happened and how it will affect the DFW horse community.
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                      • #12
                        cyriz's mom I heard the same thing about the owners but I don't know if it was true or not. I imagine the overhead and building costs were astronominal- it is one of the nicest facilities I have seen.


                        • #13
                          From ise@ssl

                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I hope that whomever you "heard" this from is correct - since you announced this on this BB.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          Good grief! Perhaps you should take up kickboxing or something. You obviously have a lot of anger that you need to deal with in a more constructive manner. Your passive-aggressive manner is getting old.
                          It's all fun and games until someone pulls a shoe....


                          • #14
                            Cyriz's Mom,

                            I have heard the same regarding investors.

                            Perhaps Bergamom will get to walk from his stall to the walker thing without his surcingle on and his neck straight up and his nose on his chest, all "rigged up". I really "felt" for him and thought he miust be one heck of a good-natured horse.

                            In the case of absentee ownership and sponsorship situaitons, this is not a surprising scenario. We've seen it before. I imagine the horses will be treated well in the transition and I wish them well.


                            • #15
                              Wow....this puts the other thread where I was torn to shreds to shame......LOL

                              Guys, be careful on stating an opinion or even facts about what you know or even think is true......it can get blow way out of hand and the next thing you know, you will also become the "anti-christ deamon from hell".....

                              One thing I will say after my last issue, is there are TWO sides to every story, so lets not judge unless we know all the facts....

                              Ummmm, now back to my Merlot.....

                              "The winds of change.....can sure mess up your hair"

                              Breeding Only Champion Bloodlines
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                              "Charcter is much easier kept than recovered"


                              • #16
                                Public information:

                                The tax bills for the Stargate Sporthorses property are sent to 300 Crescent Ct Suite 1000 Dallas TX. That address is also the address for Highland Trust Company, which is a trust for the Wyly Family - brothers Sam and Charles - (big time friends of Dubya). They are involved in Michaels - but that's only a small portion of their business holdings. If they are Stargate owners I doubt that they are too terribly concerned with normal operating expenses and overhead.
                                It's all fun and games until someone pulls a shoe....


                                • #17
                                  That is truly horrible news, and I sincerely hope it is all a misunderstanding.

                                  I have spoken to Mr. Blackmon on the phone and he was very pleasant and friendly - really nice person - and very proud of what he was creating in that farm.

                                  I also hope that Bergamon ends up in a reliable place since I was looking at him for one of my mares...


                                  'I succeeded, in spite of myself' - Alois Podhajsky

                                  \'I succeeded, in spite of myself\' - Alois Podhajsky


                                  • #18
                                    I turn you words back to you:
                                    "Good grief! Perhaps you should take up kickboxing or something. You obviously have a lot of anger that you need to deal with in a more constructive manner. Your passive-aggressive manner is getting old."

                                    Gee - this must be important to you that you look up the mailing address for property taxes. And what does George Bush have to do with this?

                                    Oh no...........maybe this is all a right wing conspiracy.............
                                    Summit Sporthorses Ltd. Inc.
                                    "Breeding Competition Partners & Lifelong Friends"


                                    • #19
                                      Stallions at Stargate were described as owned by Emily Wyly Lindsey

                                      Quoted from their website;
                                      "Stargate Sport Horses was designed by Lisa Blackmon and Emily Lopez for the serious dressage competitor."

                                      ise@ssl's consternation may be attributed to Lisa Blackmons involvement with OLD/ISR!

                                      How did George Bush raise his ugly head?

                                      [This message was edited by Equibrit on Mar. 01, 2004 at 10:50 AM.]
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                                      • #20
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ise@ssl:
                                        Gee - this must be important to you that you look up the mailing address for property taxes. And what does George Bush have to do with this?
                                        Oh no...........maybe this is all a right wing conspiracy............. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        In what manner is this information threatening to you? I simply demonstrated that it isn't necessary to speculate on relationships when the information is available in the public domain. It took all of 5 minutes to look up. If I wish to interject an personal note about the Wyly family tie to politics and you choose to interpret that as a right wing conspiracy theory......well, I think that says more about you than it does about me.

                                        This issue is simply interesting enough to read about - that's all.
                                        It's all fun and games until someone pulls a shoe....