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  • Gelding a stallion how long....

    Hi
    For those who have gelded older stallions did they calm down and lose the stallion temerment? I have a 8 yr. stallion though he is good to handle he make sure EVERYONE knows he a stallion. So would he still have those traits or would he turn into a nice gelding that could live and play with others? I know there is no eal way to answer this but I would like to hear from other who have done this.

    Thanks

  • #2
    We had a 9-year old gelded. It took about a year for him to lose the studdy behavior, but he's been with several other horses without a problem.

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    • #3
      Some, never.

      Others as little as a month.
      InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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      • #4
        Echoing Pintopiaffe here. Some of them are very quick, some never, and lots in between.

        Several years ago we purchased a young Welsh Cob stallion as a stallion prospect. A more evil animal I've never met. We gelded him, of course. No amount of pedigree or fancy makes up for THAT kind of disposition. It took about a year for him to settle down. He did come after my husband once about 4 or 5 months after he was gelded, but that was the last time. Now, he is a sane, trustworthy mount for both adults and children.

        I've had others that remained very studdy, even as geldings -- and then there are some that get up from the surgery acting like they have been geldings their whole life. You really won't know until you do it....
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          #5
          Thanks guys!
          I am not sure what to do...He has breeding value so I may just try and sell and if he don't sell I'll geld him. He great at home and really all things considered he was not to bad in public but he is a screamer and that mkes me crazy. (He did get spanked for the yelling but after awhile it seemed like abuse.... he screamed alot...lol )

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          • #6
            My boy was gelded at age 4-1/2 and it took at least a year for him to lose the stallionish behavior. Two years later, he is still easily distracted by mares in season and is mouthy with his pasturemate, but he is sweet and well behaved with people, thanks to my trainer. He does still have his occasional brat moment, but is never evil. I had him collected right before he was gelded as he was the last foal of a wonderful stallion and he seems to have a very bright future in eventing.
            ~Another proud member of the TrakehNERD clique ~

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            • #7
              Spook1, I gelded our stallion at the age of 10 1/2. We bought him at age 4 months and had no intentions of selling him, thought since he was so sweet and gentle, it didn't matter to keep him intact. Then when we made the decision that it would be in his best interest to find him a partner for competition and hopefully for life, no one really wants the baggage that comes with a stallion no matter how sweet.

              We learned a valuable lesson, if he is not intended for breeding or not an acceptable candidate for a stallion approval, you are giving him a better life by gelding him. I call it "live and learn".

              We cried the day he was gelded thinking how cruel it must seem to him now and worrying if it would be too hard on him. It took a few months then voila! you couldn't imagine how happy he seemed. Because of that choice, he may not of ever found his new owner that
              loves him to death, loads him in a trailer and can go ANYWHERE with him!!!

              I will never make the same mistake again...at least this one ended up with a happy ending!

              Take care and hope this helps.

              Patricia
              Home of the approved "German Engineered" stallion TITULUS!

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              • #8
                Took my 3 year old about 4-5 months to totally lose interest in the girls, and about 1 month to turn into El Porko.
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                • #9
                  The oldest stallion I've gelded (kinda regret doing it, but didn't have a choice) was also 8 at the time. He's now coming 23 so we've been together awhile, as I bought him as a 6yo. He never acted like a stallion so really he didn't change a whole lot once he was gelded and prior to being gelded he was pastured w/ a young gelding.

                  He's a wonderful foal/youngster babysitter and will tease mares for me, but only certain ones and ones he likes. He's quite the ladies man and prefers mares as companions vs the boys, but he's fine w/ either. When he teases, he doesn't ever mount, but does everything else, posturing, soft talking, nuzzling... it's really cute when he does it.

                  Good luck w/ your boy.
                  A Merrick N Dream Farm
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                  • #10
                    I have a gelding who was gelded at age 12 and now at age 22 he is still Mr. Studly Really, everyone, even the vet asks if he is still intact because he looks like a stallion (he still has the presence). He can't go out with other boys (fights), and he still calls like a stallion if you don't get after him. Plus he has all of the secondary sexual characteristics of a stallion (he just looks more masculine, is more cresty, etc.). He gets turned out with six mares and is happy as a clam and the girls adore him. Under saddle other than having a tendency to be a little noisy if you let him he has no issues. Oh, and he has quite a little mastubatory habit So if you geld them late I wouldn't count on it changing everything. My boy really wasn't stallion quality (his front legs are really wonky - pigeon toed and he paddles badly) so he should never have been left intact - but I didn't own him then.

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                      #11
                      Hi Paula
                      That's kinda what I am worried about...still acting like a stallion. He was bred and purchased as a breeding horse but the person who had had something change and sold him to me. Now I had plans that would have ment he could stay a stallion because he had some breeding value and is easy to ride and very trainable but.... I don't know if I want to deal with the stallion issues. And my thought was "well I can always geld him" but I wasn't thinking that those stallion mannerisms (sp?) my not go away.

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                      • #12
                        My barn owners have a 12yo that was gelded last spring here and a 4 year old gelded as a yearling that are both very studdy. Nothing has changed and they cannot be out with each other, other stallions or mares. They are okay around some (not all) geldings. The best behaved boy on the place.. my stallion. (go figure).
                        "Sadly, some people's greatest skill, is being an idiot". (facebook profile pic I saw).

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                        • #13
                          And it might have made a difference in my boy's case, but I'm willing to bet he was pasture bred in a herd situation given his breed and what I have learned of his past history. So he does have awesome manners with mares But that may have made him a bit more protective of his girls and less willing to adapt to going out with boys.

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                          • #14
                            What do you mean by "some breeding value?" The answer to that question may be the answer to your dilemma.
                            Laurie

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                            • #15
                              I have gelded a couple of boys later with no issues. One was a breeding stallion who ended up with a serious infection that left him infertile. We gelded him when he was nearly 9 and went him to be broke...within 6 weeks, he had been sold to a young girl who still has him to this day. After about a week, he was the happiest gelding you have ever met

                              The second stallion was a 5 year old warmblood who I sold. He had bred a couple of mares, but that was it. I gelded him, put him back to work a few days later and within a month, he was not studdy in any way with people. Toward other horses, he would still show a bit of stallion tendencies, but by the time he arrived in Bermuda about 6 weeks post-gelding, he was ready for a junior rider who had absolutely no problems with him.

                              I should say that both of these stallions were well socialized (both were turned out with other horses always), well mannered and easy to handle even when they had their jewels. Gelding them simply made life easier for the barns where they went. Life did not change around here by gelding them.

                              Good luck whatever you decide to do.

                              Jennifer
                              Belindale Farm
                              Breeding quality ponies for show and pleasure.
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                              • #16
                                I noticed a huge change in attitude (or lack of it) within days (in hand) but I would say the permamant change came about 8-10 months after gelding my 4 year old.

                                At 4 months or so in mixed turnout he could still be a little studdy, now a year later he shows nothing.

                                Attitude undersaddle was significantly better by 8 months.

                                Much happier horse and rider
                                I have horse to sell to you. Horse good for riding. Can pull cart. Horse good size. Eats carrots and apples. Likes attention. Move head to music. No like opera! You like you buy.

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                                  Originally posted by lauriep View Post
                                  What do you mean by "some breeding value?" The answer to that question may be the answer to your dilemma.
                                  The horse was bred to be a breeding animal,has the conformation,and has shown he has talent under saddle and he does have a good temerment. However around horses esp. mares he gets very distracted. He has beeb ridden ith other horses but I got stuck behind a mare and thogh he was controlable I didn't like that he felt like he turned into a 25 hand animal! lol
                                  I may have a opertuninty to sell him to a breeder however I like the horse...but I would hate to geld him and he still act as a stallion which isn't going to help either one of us.

                                  I really have no problem gelding him I was just worried at is age it wouldn't make a difference.
                                  Thanks

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                                  • #18
                                    It has made a difference in every one that I have been around. Some, it takes longer (sometimes as long as a year) to come around. We usually will geld our stallion prospects between 3 and 5 years and we typically notice behavior changes within a month, but it usually 3 to 6 months before they truely act like geldings. Autobahn was just gelded two weeks ago, so we will see how long it takes him.

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