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  • I found my mare's 7 month fetus yesterday morning. FINAL RESULTS---PAGE 5

    Yep!! Wondered why the horses were really "funny" about coming in the barn, past the attached big run in shed, Sat night, only to see something unusual Sunday morning. Upon inspection it was a fetus complete in the bag with all the accompaniments. Horror upon horrors!!!! Which mare did it belong to???? I only had 2 in foal for this year!!! ( my earlier thread this year was about giving it all up!!)

    mr talloaks had mentioned last week that one of the stalls had so much urine, he had never seen so much and wondered if the horse was sick. (Still no lights went on in my head!) The mare seemed fine, didn't think too much about it, until finding the fetus------then all the emergency lights went on!!! Oh darn!!! Made an emergency call to my vet, he was on vacation so got his sub who I've known for many years, and he examined the fetus---a beautiful bay filly (just what I had ordered) and could see nothing at all wrong with it, so I will be taking it into the state lab tomorrow (holiday today for gov workers) He also checked the suspected mare and she had all the signs of having aborted. Looks good, nothing torn or infected looking. He did treat her with some meds. My regular vet will be out tomorrow afternoon.

    What a shocker!! 25 years of having foals and this is the first abortion. Guess I was lucky she had it by the barn because the foxes and vultures hadn't gotten to it. She was a beautiful filly!! Oh so sad---what can I say??? Guess that's my payment for moaning about this business and giving it up!! Now I have more breedings!!! Guess I'll never be able to give up until I use them all!!!

    I don't know---I'm still kind of confused and really don't know what to think???? It is just so very sad!!

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    [This message was edited by talloaks on Jan. 29, 2004 at 10:05 PM.]

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    Yep!! Wondered why the horses were really "funny" about coming in the barn, past the attached big run in shed, Sat night, only to see something unusual Sunday morning. Upon inspection it was a fetus complete in the bag with all the accompaniments. Horror upon horrors!!!! Which mare did it belong to???? I only had 2 in foal for this year!!! ( my earlier thread this year was about giving it all up!!)

    mr talloaks had mentioned last week that one of the stalls had so much urine, he had never seen so much and wondered if the horse was sick. (Still no lights went on in my head!) The mare seemed fine, didn't think too much about it, until finding the fetus------then all the emergency lights went on!!! Oh darn!!! Made an emergency call to my vet, he was on vacation so got his sub who I've known for many years, and he examined the fetus---a beautiful bay filly (just what I had ordered) and could see nothing at all wrong with it, so I will be taking it into the state lab tomorrow (holiday today for gov workers) He also checked the suspected mare and she had all the signs of having aborted. Looks good, nothing torn or infected looking. He did treat her with some meds. My regular vet will be out tomorrow afternoon.

    What a shocker!! 25 years of having foals and this is the first abortion. Guess I was lucky she had it by the barn because the foxes and vultures hadn't gotten to it. She was a beautiful filly!! Oh so sad---what can I say??? Guess that's my payment for moaning about this business and giving it up!! Now I have more breedings!!! Guess I'll never be able to give up until I use them all!!!

    I don't know---I'm still kind of confused and really don't know what to think???? It is just so very sad!!

    "There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

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    [This message was edited by talloaks on Jan. 29, 2004 at 10:05 PM.]

    [This message was edited by talloaks on Feb. 07, 2004 at 08:46 PM.]
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    • #3
      Im so sorry Talloaks! I know exactly how sad you feel...we lost one last year at 320 days. It isnt an easy business that is for sure.

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      • #4
        Oh Bernie - I am SO sorry to hear this. What a horror, & one that I have yet to experience still being a neophyte at all of this.

        I too have considered "giving it all up" due to what seems to be my consistently failing health. Have no foals due for this coming season, but do have a breeding to use via Liz's "State of the Art", & as long as I'm going to do that, will probably choose another nice man for my other mare so they can all hopefully cavort together.

        Anyway - don't want to get off topic. Again - sincere best wishes to keep your chin up. You are a credit to hopeful breeders everywhere. Please don't let this get you down.

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        • #5
          I am sorry to here about your loss. We had a two and a half week old foal die on us once. It was really sad. (theres a picture of him in my photo album) his name was Picasso. He was also just what i ordered, dark dark brown with a star.

          I hope that all goes well with your other horse.
          Again I am very sorry and all the best.

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          • #6
            Aww geez Bern, that really stinks. I"m so sorry. Which one did you lose?

            I worry constantly about my mares. We are on a closed property but that doesn't necessarily matter!

            Had she had any recent vaccinations or anything that may have triggered it??

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            • #7
              I'm so sorry to hear about you loss....

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                Well Steph, it was ParAvion by Parabol, in foal to the HOL Concerto Grosso. ParAvion had only been to the inspection back in Oct and made Premium mare status, had had her shots in timely fashion, so don't have a clue. As the vet said, we may never know, and as far as the lab coming up with a reason by inspecting the fetus, he said they only come up with a reason 20% of the time.

                This mare was bred once and had two embryos (or what ever you call them at 18 days) and they were close together, the vet wiggled things around and they separated enough for him to pinch off one, and then she was on regumate (is it) for "X" number of days. When he palpated her in Oct or so, he said she was fine and actually had a larger fetus than the other mare, the Wetherson mare, who is in foal to the same stallion about the same time. They both had two embryos at 18 days and had to have one pinched but Felices were further apart and easier to pinch. Don't know if that has anything to do with it or not???

                No one has been anywnere and I do have a closed herd. No one is in training now with winter. We haven't had any big snow or ice within the last 2 weeks to cause a fall, but that doesn't mean that she didn't take a tumble. No marks on her from being kicked--although when it got cold I did put the blankets on. I swear these horses wait every winter and ask for their blankets!!

                Don't know, anyone got any ideas????? I'm open to suggestions.

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                • #9
                  Such a loss. You have my heartfelt sympathy.

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                  • #10
                    I am so sorry to hear about your loss

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                    • #11
                      I am soooooo sorry, how devistating. I hope you have a sucessful rebreeding.

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                        Samson , your Picasso was SO BEAUTIFUL!! What ever happened that you lost him so early??? I am SO SORRY!!

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                        • #13
                          Oh Talloaks. I'm so very very sorry. What a disheartening day for you. I am sorry you have to go through this, and you must hurt.

                          Here's a biiiiiig huuuuuuug for you sweetheart.

                          Cour-age! as the French say. And remember, take it slow, one day at time. And please keep us informed about what the problem is/was.

                          {{{HUGS}}}

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                          • #14
                            Sorry to hear of the loss Bernie - it's terrible to actually see that the foal is normal. We lost a full term filly - she was too large and was stuck. She was perfect in everyway as well.


                            Falling doesn't usually do it. We had a mare slide and fall hard on the ice - heavy in foal - my Vet told me that doesn't usually cause them to abort. Perhaps the lab work will show something - though sometimes - as your Vet says you will never know.

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                              • #16
                                I experienced the same thing last year. I took the placenta and lab into the state clinic the same morning, and they could find nothing to explain why the fetus died. The foal was a perfect black colt.

                                This past Thursday, I found my Iroko filly dead in her paddock. She was six months old. I am devastated. I have no idea what happened but I suspect a kick may have cracked a rib and punctured a lung.

                                I am trying not to read too much into this, but I am wondering if this is a sign that I need to grow a garden, not horses.

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                                • #17
                                  My friend lost a filly last year, about 7 months as well. They never figured out what it was. The vet told her most likely it was a strain of rhino, even though she had vaccinated against it. I'm not sure if that's correct or not. It sure makes you wonder when it appears as though nothing is wrong.

                                  Sally I'm so sorry about Whitney.

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                                  • #18
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                                    • #19
                                      Sorry to hear of the loss of your filly. What a sad experience for you. To be so excited for such a great filly must be devastating. My condolences.

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                                        Oakstable!! I am SO SORRY you lost a youngster!!! It's so hard to find them gone already but maybe that is easier than seeing them suffer---perhaps God took them quickly, as some has already said, these horses are only on loan to us and some for a shorter time than others. Remember, as big as these creatures are, they ARE SO FRAGILE!! God Bless You and heal your wounded heart..)))HUGS(((

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