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  • Pinto Traks?

    I've heard through the grapevine that Mystic Ice was gelded.

    That leaves his sister, Mystic Memories as the only OSB pinto Trak in the US.

    Is anyone interested even in them? Any Makar daughters here?

    Just procrastinating... wondering if anyone else is as enchanted with them as me.
    InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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    Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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    A client of mine was recently in the US.. he sent me some pics of a pinto mare/gelding? called magic flame.. looked really quite nice, and aparently is a trakehner.I have no more info on the horse than that it is a two yrs old(northern hemisphere..)
    www.australiancolouredperformancehorses.com.au

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      #3
      I should have said that Mystic Memories was the only one I *knew* about... that's why I posted the question.

      To me it is sad to loose the colours in the breed. They are part of it's history. Usually this time of year I find myself browsing around and surfing with this site as a kickoff point: http://www.deschenhof.de/engltrak.htm It's not all in english, and takes some digging around, but there's some lovely time spent there...

      There's one very old photo, with a man in military uniform on a pinto Trakehner/Prussian. The horse is SO true to type and looks SO MUCH like several Trakehners I've known, but the resemblance to my *Malachit daughter is so strong I've always wanted to know the pedigree and if they are related...
      InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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      Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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      • #4
        What about Hilife?

        http://americantrakehner.com/Stallions/hilife.asp

        Did something happen to him? Is he still around?
        Hidden Echo Farm, Carlisle, PA -- home of JC palomino sire Canadian Kid (1990 - 2013) & AQHA sire Lark's Favorite, son of Rugged Lark.

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        • #5
          There were colored Trakehner mares/foals up for auction in Neumunster at the Trakehner Hengstmarkt in both 2007 and 2008.

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            #6
            Huh. I did not know there was Overo in the breed... would that be sabino?. Learn something new every day!
            InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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            Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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            • #7
              Its Sabino, not Frame Overo. V.I.P. and Charlie Chaplin f.e. are both Sabinos too, there are plenty in the Trakehner breed, the Hanoverians and the Holsteiners too, they just don't understand and admit to that.
              Gwendolyn
              http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.com
              Exceptional colored German WBs, TBs and Arabians

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              • #8
                Not in the US, but I am fascinated with the stallion Camaro
                http://www.hengststation-geling.de/english/camaro.html

                and also just love his homozygous son Chess that Aurum has
                http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.de/gfchess.html

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                • #9
                  This is an interesting thread

                  http://www.atrakehner.com/yabbs/inde...c&topic=2473.0
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                    #10
                    WOW. Camaro is pretty amaznig. A little tall for my needs... but really lovely.

                    I too really, really like Chess. His Trakehner lines are what I really like.

                    Gwen, will we be able to get his frozen here in the States?
                    InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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                    Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pintopiaffe View Post
                      Huh. I did not know there was Overo in the breed... would that be sabino?. Learn something new every day!
                      SAbino and or splash
                      Check out my Equine Genetics Blog! Updated April 25th with Splashed White!!!
                      http://equinegenetics.blogspot.com/

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                      • #12
                        http://www.trakehners.co.uk/foals/2007/heartbreaker.htm
                        www.australiancolouredperformancehorses.com.au

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                        • #13
                          Lovely foal, thanks for sharing Ben. My mare Mandela is also a Sabino, her dam had four stockings and a huge belly spot and all of her foals have inherited the four stockings. Mandela is doing exactly the same with her offspring and giving the Sabino gene, although hers have either 4 or two stockings. I have a Palomino filly from 2007 with four high whites from her and will present that one to the Trakehner Verband in 2010 for the studbook.
                          Gwendolyn
                          http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.com
                          Exceptional colored German WBs, TBs and Arabians

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                          • #14
                            @ pintopiaffe

                            Regarding Chess and frozen semen. If I would have enough orders to cover the high costs of freezing for the International use, I would do it, but otherwise it is just too expensive to do.
                            Gwendolyn
                            http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.com
                            Exceptional colored German WBs, TBs and Arabians

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                            • #15
                              And dont forget Cointreau (By Michealangelo from the same mother line as Camaro) was also approved this year by the Trakehner verband. I am hoping to see him in February, as I have seen Camaro a few times but dont have a mare that would suit him, so be nice to see if Cointreau offers something different. No idea if there is any frozen from him though
                              www.volatis.co.uk - breeders of quality and colour

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                              • #16
                                Indian Boy and his son Grande Couleur are approved Trakehner pinto stallions in Europe.

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                                • #17
                                  Camaro semen

                                  Is his semen sold in the US by someone?

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                                  • #18
                                    Hi all, I am the owner of Mystic Ice (deceased in 2006), Mystic Fire ( gelded in 2007) and Mystic Memories (now the only full-blooded OSB studbook Tobiano Pinto mare in America - since her mom is now retired).

                                    I would love to hear from anyone else who is interested in pursuing Tobiano pinto Traks here!
                                    Currently, there is NO Approved pinto Trak stallion frozen semen available in the US. If we can drum up some serious interest, maybe we can convince someone to freeze for us!
                                    Karousel Farms, Breeders of Fine Trakehner Sporthorses.

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                                      #19
                                      Suzette, wow... you have amazing horses. Your mare is the fantasy of a lifetime for some of us. I am SO SORRY to hear about Mystic Ice! My most sincere condolences. I did not know he had passed on. I am so sorry too for Khreshendo. He was amazing. His (and your) mark on Trak breeding in the US will be felt for generations.

                                      I have a 2yo pinto colt who is Arab X Trak. His dam was a *Malachit daughter. BUT--he gets his colour from 1/32 of ASB back in the woodpile (sire is 15/16ths Arab--not purebred, not eligible. ) I think my goal is to someday--four generations from now--have a descendant of his that is OSB eligible. I have this 'ultimate fantasy' that he'll score well enough in dressage to be considered for approveal at some point like Ta'ez. Sadly, it is his rider (me) that will hold him back. Not his talent or ability.

                                      Trakehners are magic for me. They aren't for everyone. One of my dear friends and mentors spoilt me rotten for them. I bred my best mare to her Abdullah Grandson/Kronjuvel son, but she lost the foal around 4 mos. It wasn't meant to be.

                                      Every winter when I have my down time and my 'dream' time I get to wondering why there aren't more pintos (and I'm talking tobiano--though the sabinos are interesting!) in the US? There still seem to be a few in Europe.

                                      For me it's like having the cake and eating it too--or, more accurately, eating the FROSTING on the cake too...

                                      I just think the coloured Prussians are such a unique part of history... it would be heartbreaking to loose them. OTOH--I'm unabashedly a pinto fan, and the pinto Trakehners seem to me to be The *Ultimate*. I didn't know there was such a thing 10 years ago... so I crossbred to come close. I tried to move heaven and earth to breed my mare to Makar, but it was not meant to be. I was not brave enough for $1500 (plus shipping) for frozen with no LFG...

                                      Now all I've left of her is her amazing son. I truly hope to breed him back to Trakehner... Though my mare was the mare of a lifetime. I'm not sure I'll ever get another chance for such an amazing gift of a broodmare. I have to have faith that when the time is right, the right mare will find me again, much as Magnifikat found me.

                                      Meanwhile it's just my usual winter 'wanderings...' browsing the web and thinking aloud when the weather keeps me in.
                                      InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                      Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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                                      • #20
                                        15/16 may be approvable

                                        Seems to me that in one of the recent discussions on the Trakehner Treffpunkt forums there was mention that 15/16th is OSB approvable. You might want to check that out by emailing the ATA, or you can go to the forum and find the thread, which was started by "Lucky Mistake".
                                        Joy Metcalf
                                        Crooked Shade Farm, Maine

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