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Would this be too weird? Fine art trade for sport horse prospect?

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  • Would this be too weird? Fine art trade for sport horse prospect?

    So, in talking with my Dad about my horse shopping challenges, he suggested proposing a fine art trade for an event prospect. He is a premier bronze sculptor, specializing in equestrian art (he himself was a horse trainer for 20+ years before transitioning to a career as a full time artist). The equine section of his website is here:

    http://www.douwestudios.com/le_equine.html

    He has completed well over 200 private and public commissions and has numerous awards, residencies and shows to his credit. Recent significant projects include a large piece for the William Shatner (also an avid equestrian) residence in L.A., the Las Vegas Veterans Memorial, the “Americas' Response” Special Operations Monument to be placed by Ground Zero in NYC, a 17 foot tall flock of birds for the Intertex corporation of Los Angeles, a life-size herd of wild horses for the city of Aurora, CO, a large outdoor musical piece for the performing arts center in Lebanon, KY, the new entryway monument for the Vance Brand Airport in Longmont, CO and three pieces for the royal residence in Dubai (also equestrian, I believe). He also had great success selling pieces at the World Equestrian Games in KY a few years back (where he currently resides). Within the last 18 months alone, he has installed five large outdoor pieces for cities across the country.

    He has had a lot of luck trading artwork for awesome things, ranging from high end antique motorcycles to exotic vacations. I, however, had never thought of trading art for a horse. Is there even a market for something like that? I mean, obviously there is, as he makes a very successful full-time career out of his artwork, largely equestrian (but also works with high end European designers making specialty furniture and does major installations at colleges, museums, etc.), but how would one even go about proposing something like that? Lol, weird but novel idea. My dad is nothing if not creative.

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    I would think that this is an excellent idea. If he does horse bronzes, what Barn Owner wouldn't love to have one? It's not the kind of thing that most people would have at the front of their minds, but if brought up might think "Wow!"

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      #3
      Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
      I would think that this is an excellent idea. If he does outdoor horse bronzes, what Barn Owner wouldn't love to have one? It's not the kind of thing that most people would have at the front of their minds, but if brought up might think "Wow!"
      Aw, that's encouraging. His website, IMO, is meh, but his work is INCREDIBLE. He's actually done several large pieces for barn entryways / private equestrian estates and they are just stunning. However, his big pieces are quite pricey (life size and up). Hmmm...I'd imagine it might be tricky to find someone who wants a piece who also has a horse I want. Food for thought, though.

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        There is never anything wrong with asking to barter . ESP for something coo,unique,and potentially can increase in value over the years.
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          Is Unrivaled the Barbaro statue? It looks like it. Fantastic work! I think it would probably be easier to sell a piece and use the money to buy whatever you want, but certainly not impossible to do it the way you described.Click image for larger version

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            Originally posted by acottongim View Post
            There is never anything wrong with asking to barter . ESP for something coo,unique,and potentially can increase in value over the years.
            Good to hear. I've never thought of trading because I usually don't have anything of value to trade. I'm a teacher with an M.A. so I've occasionally considering trading tutoring for such and such, but then I get greedy for my summer vacation and want to spend it at barn instead of working.

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              Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
              I think it would probably be easier to sell a piece and use the money to buy whatever you want, but certainly not impossible to do it the way you described.[ATTACH=CONFIG]37926[/ATTACH]
              Not sure he's that generous!

              I don't think that's his piece. I know he was a top two or three finalist for it (hence the creation of "Unrivaled"), but I'm pretty sure he didn't do the full size version. He's sold the small version to several tracks and trainers, though, I think.

              He also does amazing personalized busts of your horse. He's even been flown to South Africa to meet, study, and sculpt one of his clients' top horses. He's doing one for me for my horse that passed away. Can't wait!

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              • #8
                I bet a breeder would be interested in trading a horse for a bust or sclupture of their foundation mare or stallion

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                  It might not be so common in the sporthorse world, but I know plenty of "show breed" and pony folk who would jump at it and think they got the better part of the bargain!

                  For the breeder who needs cash NOW, it's not going to work. But for a breeder who looks at it as something they want OR as a capital improvement to their property/farm, heck yes.
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                  • #10
                    Alexa King did Barbaro, another incredibly talented sculptor.

                    http://alexakingstudios.com/
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                    • #11
                      Wonderful idea! I know stallion owners, that have traded breedings for commission artwork.

                      Never hurts to ask!

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                      • #12
                        Gorgeous work. I expect there might be breeders out there who would want to work something out. Good luck - hiope you find the right prospect and breeder.
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                        • #13
                          Why would it be more generous to sell the piece and use the money to buy a horse vs. trading for a horse? Seems exactly the same to me and definitely opens up your options not to mention there may be money left over if he sold it and bought a horse but would be an even exchange if traded.
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                            I actually know a very talented artist who did exactly what you are talking about. A bronze of a stallion in exchange for young horses.
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                              Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                              Why would it be more generous to sell the piece and use the money to buy a horse vs. trading for a horse? Seems exactly the same to me and definitely opens up your options not to mention there may be money left over if he sold it and bought a horse but would be an even exchange if traded.
                              I was wondering this myself.
                              I do know of a case of a horse for a painting. But the thing is, this question is a moot point unless the people that own the horse you like/want will accept the trade. Some will and most won't.
                              I bet it would be way easier to sell the art and buy a horse with the money.
                              Regardless, good luck to him and you in your endeavours.

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                                Definitely worth trying. I think a fair number would be intertested
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                                  Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                                  Why would it be more generous to sell the piece and use the money to buy a horse vs. trading for a horse? Seems exactly the same to me
                                  Hmmm, I suppose in my mind giving me cold hard cash from the sale of a piece seems like more of a loss to him than simply trading a piece for a horse for me. Handing me a $5k check is a loss of $5k actual dollars to himself and his business (and also probably would need to result in $5k to each of my siblings ), whereas trading a piece is a loss of only his expenses. Also, if I facilitate the trade, I have done the marketing, so to speak, whereas if I let him sell the piece, he is paying to do the marketing. I don't think it's a huge difference, just enough of one...

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                                    Nope, apples and apples, just one of the apples ie the cash has mass appeal.
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                                      If I had a WB you liked I would jump at that offer. Your dad is incredibly talented and I think bartering is a fabulous thing!!
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                                      • #20
                                        No matter what you do, just wanted to say just gorgeous and moving works!
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