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  • Help guessing our colts color. DNA results now in :)

    Our pony foal is 6 days old today. When he was born I was sure he was a chestnut (even though there was only about a 3% chance LOL). The more I look at him, I am seeing things I never saw (or remember seeing) in my other chestnut foals. His eye color for one, which has not changed since birth. His skin pigment too, which has a purplish tone to it. He is just so orange looking. I have seen a few palomino foals on line that were born pretty dark too. Then he has the Silver gene, which can do crazy things coat colors and some even say while it should not effect red based colors, they noticed a difference in their red based silvers as foals. I know we won't know for sure until we test him, but it would be great to hear from others more versed in coat colors and Palomino/Silver more importantly. This was the first time I wasn't able put a foals "color" on the purchase agreement, which felt weird!
    First two pics show his eye and skin color, the last is to show, no mater what color he ends up being, he loves to jump
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    I would post a pic of both sire and dam.. also what color they are. It is VERY hard to tell just with a pic. We need to know the genetic options
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      Sorry, I thought I had included that in my OP. Mom is a Silver Buckskin although I am almost positive that if I had her test for brown, that she would actually be a Silver Brownskin. Dad is a Silver Buckskin Tobiano.
      Here are pics of them too
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      • #4
        I don't know what color your foal is, but those are about the cutest/prettiest ponies I've ever seen!!!
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          Originally posted by NoDQhere View Post
          I don't know what color your foal is, but those are about the cutest/prettiest ponies I've ever seen!!!
          Thank you, It was not our planned cross, but after 3 years of trying to get her in foal with shipped semen, no reason she shouldn't settle and nothing to show for it (well I can show lots of bills) we tried one last ditch effort (LC) and boom, she got in foal. This year she will be bred, more in line with our program. We will breed her in 2 weeks to Gatsby. So very excited!
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          • #6
            My foal was born a similar color to him, and started to get lighter. I was thinking she might turn palomino. Now that she is shedding out her mane roots are black, and her legs look black. Maybe she is turning a dark liver? I would guess palomino with your foal.
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            • #7
              I'm thinkin Pally too (with silver).

              OOOOOHHHH you could get Black + Silver with Gatsby (along with other combos LOL). NICE!! That will be a super foal all the way around
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                Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                I'm thinkin Pally too (with silver).

                OOOOOHHHH you could get Black + Silver with Gatsby (along with other combos LOL). NICE!! That will be a super foal all the way around
                Think so too. I call our pony the swiss army knife of ponies. She can jump like a little GP jumper, hack on the buckle and square knees like a hunter, and then will drop your jaw with this engagement from behind like a top dressage pony. I see the same thing in Gatsby. So hoping to size her up a little and still keep some refinement. Now if she throws her silver too...DROOLING just thinking about it :P
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                • #9
                  Solely based on the three photos, he looks chestnut to me.

                  Gatsby is 17 hands. Yikes! You are a lot braver than I am. Isn't your mare 12.2 HH? I just couldn't risk it with one of my ponies.
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                  • #10
                    Can't help with the color but I wanted to say the picture of him jumping the log is way too cute!!

                    How tall is mom?

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                      Originally posted by alliekat View Post
                      Thank you, It was not our planned cross, but after 3 years of trying to get her in foal with shipped semen, no reason she shouldn't settle and nothing to show for it (well I can show lots of bills) we tried one last ditch effort (LC) and boom, she got in foal. This year she will be bred, more in line with our program. We will breed her in 2 weeks to Gatsby. So very excited!
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                        Originally posted by Daventry View Post
                        Solely based on the three photos, he looks chestnut to me.

                        Gatsby is 17 hands. Yikes! You are a lot braver than I am. Isn't your mare 12.2 HH? I just couldn't risk it with one of my ponies.
                        She is acutually a med. but a stout little thing. I like the amount of TB in his breeding. While he is tall, I don't think he is overly broad, which I have been told is more the issue when it comes to crossing to larger stallions.
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                        • #13
                          Well, his hair color certainly looks chestnut, but that skin is a whole different shade than I'm used to seeing on chestnut foals! I agree that it has a purple hue to it!

                          Might be one to have color tested!!
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                            Originally posted by rideagoldenpony View Post
                            Well, his hair color certainly looks chestnut, but that skin is a whole different shade than I'm used to seeing on chestnut foals! I agree that it has a purple hue to it!

                            Might be one to have color tested!!
                            Sending off for the test kit but thought it would be fun to guess. I actually did the same thing when we tested his mom Fun to compare the results.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by alliekat View Post
                              Sending off for the test kit but thought it would be fun to guess. I actually did the same thing when we tested his mom Fun to compare the results.
                              You should be able to download the forms right from the internet and then can just pull mane hairs and mail it in.
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                              • #16
                                I know this might be a longshot, but one of my foals, is registered as dunskin, but is also a champagne / dun. The registry lists champagnes as buckskins! She she has a pinkish brown skin tone and dark, sapphire blue eyes. Could the champagne be a genetic possibility for your adorable baby?
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                                • #17
                                  i saw some research somewhere where they bred a shetland stallion to a draft mare and a shetland mare to a draft stallion. neither mare had issues. the shetland mare had an appropriate sized foal - even tho it grew up to be quite big.

                                  the uterus controls the size of the foal when it is born so the theory goes.

                                  fwiw, i too did the WB x pony thang.. and this may i will (crossing fingers and toes!) have something fun to pay with.

                                  both your mare and foal are awesome!

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                                    We pulled mane today and will send it off tomorrow. So excited to finally have an answer to our little mystery!
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                                    • #19
                                      So adorable!

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                                        Yeah, I have to agree with palomino. What a cutie!!
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