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Info about Welsh Cob NORTH FORKS BLACK EARL in Oregon???

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  • Info about Welsh Cob NORTH FORKS BLACK EARL in Oregon???

    Seeking information about the Welsh Cob stallion North Forks Black Earl standing in Oregon state. Looking for honest reviews, personal experience, video, anything you got! Feel free to PM me.

    I have searched and can find ZERO info aside from the breeder's website. Can't even find a video.

    Any info appreciated !
    "Capture the horse's confidence to obtain his consent." -General L'Hotte

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    I will send you a PM.

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    • #3
      I know the NorthFork stable, but not this stallion in particular. But I know a very talented young dressage rider in the NW (Jessica Wisdom) trained Northfork Cardi (a bay Welsh Cob stallion) all the way to GP and he was good enough at it that even in CA against WBs he was pulling in great scores.

      Google Jessica Wisdom...she probably knows something about him...

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      • #4
        Flying Changes magazine is another PNW resource. There is a lot of press about Northforks Cardi , but I haven't heard of Black Earl. Check out the classifieds, maybe there is something there? Also recommend contacting Jessica Wisdom.

        http://www.flyingchanges.com/

        Best wishes!

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        • #5
          If I understood correctly, Earl is a half brother to Cardi, Kyzteke. I don't have any personal experience with the stallion himself, but am very familiar with the trainer that was standing him last year (who is not Jessica Wisdom, and is in no way associated with her!).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
            If I understood correctly, Earl is a half brother to Cardi, Kyzteke.
            Really? A true half-brother (as in o/o the same dam). Or just sired by the same stallion?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kyzteke View Post
              Really? A true half-brother (as in o/o the same dam). Or just sired by the same stallion?
              I don't know, but I'd guess same sire. There is a comment asking about the relation on North Forks Cardi's facebook page, that's where I saw it.

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              • #8
                There is quite a bit of information on this page. Easily found through Google.
                www.pleasantstonewelsh.org/Stallion
                Last edited by Daventry; Feb. 20, 2013, 11:25 PM.
                www.DaventryEquestrian.com
                Home of Welsh Cob stallion Goldhills Brandysnap
                Also home to Daventry Equine Appraisals & Equine Expert Witness
                www.EquineAppraisers.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Daventry View Post
                  There is quite a bit of information on this page. Easily found through Google.
                  www.pleasantstonewelsh.org/Stallion
                  Jessica Wisdom is riding him in the Mary Cornelius photo shown there, so I'm thinking she would be able to tell you something about him. She can be contacted thru her website eqequestrian.com.

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                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Hi all, thank you for your replies.

                    I was aware of all the above info, that JW had him in training briefly, that PB did most of the riding, etc.

                    I was more curious to hear of first hand experience anyone has with offspring, or see actual video of him.... Seems like it's maybe just not out there!

                    PM's welcome. Thanks all.
                    "Capture the horse's confidence to obtain his consent." -General L'Hotte

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                    • #11
                      I am pretty sure that he is the sire of Wendy Yings matched carriage team Duke and Dante and his grandsire is Randy Bullard's GREAT stallion Consort.

                      best
                      Tamara
                      Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                      I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                      • #12
                        they have the same sire
                        Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                        I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PennyChrome View Post

                          I was more curious to hear of first hand experience anyone has with offspring, or see actual video of him.... Seems like it's maybe just not out there! .
                          not first hand, but I KNOW I've seen video of one of his offspring. I remember because it was out of the dam of one of my super cute horses. Let me do some looking and see if I can find it, if still online.

                          ETA: Found it. Video available at this ad (I am not the owner or associated with them in any way, so hope it is okay to post this?!):
                          http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sal...d-2556486.html

                          By NFBE, out of one of my horse's dams, I think, as the name and area are right. My guy is Westfalen and a fab mover, but don't know if that came from mom or dad or the mix.
                          Last edited by horsepoor; Feb. 23, 2013, 12:58 PM. Reason: Added Video Link

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                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            interesting!
                            "Capture the horse's confidence to obtain his consent." -General L'Hotte

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PennyChrome View Post
                              interesting!
                              What's more interesting to me is that I happen to be the person riding in video #2 on that ad. He's a cute little dude, seemed like a nice sort despite being super duper green. I'm not sure he'd been over any fences prior to that day. He's owned by the same breeder that I bought my Westphalian mare from (who is out of one of her Trak mares, although not the same one as this guy). That video is over a year old. Here are some other photos from that day - http://web.archive.org/web/201302240.../juleserin.jpg

                              http://web.archive.org/web/201302240...ssupercute.jpg

                              Horsepoor, are you the one I spoke with about your Hit baby last year?
                              Last edited by Heinz 57; Feb. 24, 2013, 01:12 AM.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
                                Horsepoor, are you the one I spoke with about your Hit baby last year?
                                Yes, that's the one I'm talking about (that I think is out of the same mare as this Jules guy).

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by horsepoor View Post
                                  Yes, that's the one I'm talking about (that I think is out of the same mare as this Jules guy).
                                  That's right. Same sire, different dams. I didn't know your baby was out of one of Nancy's Trak mares, that's interesting. FWIW, the breeder that owns these guys (Albionlane) is not the same one that owns NFBE (Pleasantstone), although I believe they are friends. There was another pony, My Sweet Dinah, that is also by NFBE out of a different Trak mare. I never met her, though.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
                                    That's right. Same sire, different dams. I didn't know your baby was out of one of Nancy's Trak mares, that's interesting.
                                    She was not the breeder of mine; I think the mare changed hands. My guy was bred by Hit's owner. Must be the same mare, however, as I just noticed my own link there had the pedigree and it matches. Everyone told me she was quite fancy but I never saw her.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Kyzteke
                                      Really? A true half-brother (as in o/o the same dam). Or just sired by the same stallion?
                                      I'm sure you know this (positive, in fact) but they aren't considered related if they have the same sire. Just considered 1/2 siblings if of out of the same dam.
                                      Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                                        I'm sure you know this (positive, in fact) but they aren't considered related if they have the same sire. Just considered 1/2 siblings if of out of the same dam.
                                        Maybe to you! The straight fact is, they do share half of their DNA, so they are related. I don't care how many foals a sire is capable of siring and don't care how many foals a dam is capable of foaling...DNA doesn't lie.
                                        www.DaventryEquestrian.com
                                        Home of Welsh Cob stallion Goldhills Brandysnap
                                        Also home to Daventry Equine Appraisals & Equine Expert Witness
                                        www.EquineAppraisers.com

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