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  • Talk to me about Sir Gregory

    Does anyone here have first hand experience with Sir Gregory (and/or his offspring)? I'm mostly curious about his temperament, character and rideability, as well as that in his foals. Would you say he's a stallion that regularly improves mares? If so, in what aspect? Feel free to share photo's/video's of his foals that you may have. I'm stallion-window-shopping for a few years from now

  • #2
    OHBS/GOV just released its list of top Oldenburg foals from the 2012 North American inspection tour.

    Sir Gregory sired the Champion Dressage colt Sam Silver, the 3rd place Dressage colt Sir Liebling DSF, and the Reserve Champion Dressage Filly Waldina. And Sir Gregory was once again the leading sire of premium Oldenburg foals in North America.

    I am sure Jennifer at Dreamscape Farm can point you to some breeders who have used him, so you can get first hand accounts about his foals.

    This is a wonderful young stallion, and well deserving of all the accolades he and his offspring are garnering.


    • #3
      I love my Premium GOV SG 2011 filly. He improved the hindend angle (mare was slightly straight) and she has a more feminine head than her dam. She has a great temperament and movement. I've booked my Fidertanz mare, Keepsake, to him for this year. You can check out my website www.twinwillows.net to see pictues of Sirlana TWF. Search foals 2011. The picture on the sales page is of her at 9 months.


      • #4
        We are very pleased with out 2012 Sir Gregory filly out of a Feiner Stern/Weltmeyer mare. He improved exactly what I was looking for improvement for with my mare- I wanted to add some refinement (mare is a BIG old fashioned type mare), elacticity and a little bit of lightness in her gaits (mare has a huge stride but sounds like a herd of elephants), a better neck/neck set and better hind leg angle (my mare is also a bit straight). Our filly was also premium at her inspection.
        I am primarily a hunter breeder and this filly honestly could go either way. She doesn't have a ton of knee and uses her hind end well...all of my dressage friends LOVE her. She is very sweet, level headed and easy to deal with but might end up being a bit dull for the dressage folks that like a little "spark". Her dam is very much this way too though. FWIW, her dam, though impeccably bred for dressage, had a successful career in the hunter ring.
        Here are a few videos:
        and this to show just what a sweetie she is:
        Last edited by NorthHillFarm; Feb. 7, 2013, 03:09 PM. Reason: adding breeding of dam
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        • Original Poster

          Very nice fillies, both of you! Thanks for your input


          • #6
            FWIW a client of ours has gone down with her daughter to train at the Peter's and they had nothing but great things to say about him.

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            • #7
              I have bred my ster Idocus-Wanroij to Sir Gregory twice, and loved the results. Both offspring sold as foals/weanlings. Neither have been yet presented for inspection due to distances involved, unfortunately. I plan to rebreed this mare back to Sir Gregory.

              2011 colt as a yearling: http://youtu.be/8j4vUYoG7Dk
              2012 filly: http://youtu.be/22zNUuB8Ub4
              Martha Haley - NeverSayNever Farm
              2009 KWN-NA Breeder of the Year/Silver Level Breeder


              • #8
                How would one compare Sir Gregory to Diamond Stud? Interesting now that Dreamscape stands them both. Both appeal to me for different reasons. I am considering them for this year but am still undecided. It seems that SG is more modern in type. wish I could see them in person....


                • #9
                  Originally posted by FairhavenSportHorses View Post
                  Does anyone here have first hand experience with Sir Gregory (and/or his offspring)? I'm mostly curious about his temperament, character and rideability, as well as that in his foals. Would you say he's a stallion that regularly improves mares? If so, in what aspect? Feel free to share photo's/video's of his foals that you may have. I'm stallion-window-shopping for a few years from now
                  I would say that he does "regularly improve" mares. I have one foal by Sir G and a friend has another. We are both very pleased. Conformation and temperaments on both are what you'd want to have in your barn, and my friend feels her filly is one of the best she's ever bred. I can't address what they will be like under saddle as they are yearling and weanling age. My mare could always use longer lines; longer body type and a longer foreleg, and Sir G did not add those in this particular pairing, just to add a bit of a different perspective, though count me as a very admiring fan of Sir Gregory. Here's a pic of my colt a 7 weeks: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
                  Last edited by Indy-lou; Feb. 7, 2013, 07:09 PM. Reason: add photo link
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                  • #10
                    First saw Sir Gregory as a three year old competing in the Three year old Stallion Class at the Oldenburg State Championships at Rastede. He was well behaved and looked most ridable. He definitely caught my eye even though he was smaller and Chestnut....not a winning combination in Oldenburg (-: We bred our Dormello mare to Sir Gregory in 2011 and had a lovely filly in 2012. It was a first foal for the mare so was not sure what expect. What we got was a long legged athletic filly with three super gaits. Confident and easy to handle. (Her dam is a Brilliant Ring Mare so no slouch) but Sir Gregory improved on the mare. Mare is bred back as is the dam of our stallion Roubaix. The filly was been sold to a show home. We took her off the farm for her first show, Dressage at Devon, where she won the Filly's of 2012 Class and was reserve Champion Foal of 2012.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMBtuZL5nx4 Video from her GOV inspection. She choose not to trot so much. Luckily at Devon she did trot and received a "9" for her trot there.


                    Video at three weeks old. You can see she is quite self confident.
                    Last edited by Crosiadore; Feb. 7, 2013, 08:09 PM. Reason: To add videos
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                    • #11
                      I have bred to Sir Gregory when he was very first imported and that gelding is now coming 2 years old (2011 model). This mare (Rio Grande - Rollicking xx) was very much a hunter mover, and her 2 previous foals by other stallions were more huntery movers. I had her first foal by Sir Gregory (I leased the mare) and I can definitely say that Sir Gregory majorly improved the movement on the mare, most especially the trot and walk, as the mare had a very nice canter. My colt was Premium and Best Foal of the Day at his GOV inspection. My gelding is very friendly, nice, easy going. Really has been an easy one to raise. The only time he ever had any even remote tantrums was as a few day old foal (he hated the butt rope) but really, just an easy going guy.

                      The owner of the mare (after my lease was up) liked my colt so much she rebred the mare to Sir Gregory, and if anything, he gave that filly even more movement than the colt got (and he is a very nice mover). This filly was Premium and Foal of Distinction with GOV. And both are very typey (like their half sisters out of the same mare) but are definitely bigger movers.

                      I am thrilled that he is also now approved AHS. I had fallen in love with him when he was in Germany, so with Jennifer at Dreamscape imported him, I think I was one of the first to talk to her and book to him.

                      FWIW, my friend that I leased the mare (dam) above from used to ride in Germany at the same place that Sir Gregory was being ridden. She said he was very, very nice under saddle (and that was actually how I came to lease her mare, was through the conversation on Sir Gregory).

                      2011 gelding

                      2012 full sister (owned by mmt on COTH)

                      I have heard that the filly is a bit more spicy than my colt, but is friendly with people. She has a better and quicker hind leg too. Really, SG quite improved on this mare and gave more dressage movement than the other 2 dressage bred stallions.

                      I love Sir Gregory.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by winter View Post
                        How would one compare Sir Gregory to Diamond Stud? Interesting now that Dreamscape stands them both. Both appeal to me for different reasons. I am considering them for this year but am still undecided. It seems that SG is more modern in type. wish I could see them in person....
                        I have seen both of them in person (SG under saddle and on the lunge, DS on the lunge only). I think they have different things to offer. SG has had more foals, so is a bit more of a known quantity. SG definitely has a prettier head and more modern look. Movement wise I prefer DS for dressage, but I dunno, after seeing the last video of SG that Jennifer posted, he looks pretty super as well! I believe that DS might a bit more naturally uphill.


                        • #13
                          Have seen Sir Gregory at Dreamscape and found him to be very very special, with a wonderful rhythmical movement. All in all a most impressive individual. We are lucky to have him in Canada.


                          • #14
                            I also have a 2011 Sir Gregory coming two year old. Can't say enough about the filly or Sir Gregory. I was looking for a super hindend, excellent movement, and a great brain and that's what I got. My mare, a dutch keur mare, had proven herself in sport, had a good temperament and nice movement. Sir Gregory improved her. I like that he brings lots of D without losing the jump. He seems to be very reliable for a good hind end, height, temperament, and excellent gaits. Can't wait to breed to him again!

                            Here's my filly (well, she's sold now :-( )
                            At three weeks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wETsn4eHkYA
                            As a yearling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctEC8...hannel&list=UL
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                            • Original Poster

                              I appreciate everyone's help. The mare in question is a huge bodied Krack C & Kadans grand daughter. She's more or less you're more "old" style WB.. not so refined. In the event that the breed lease works out, it's really important to me to go with a smaller stallion that tends to "lighten" the mare, while adding some movement and "pretty" to the head and neck.

                              I do like Diamond Stud, but breeding a stallion without much 'pudding' on the ground with a maiden mare is a little too nerve racking for me! And... call me crazy but most of his foals (to my knowledge) that are on the ground are Colts, and I prefer indoor plumbing :P


                              • #16
                                We had a Sir Gregory colt back in 2011. Sold within months of his birth, he is now the pride and joy of his owner, a wonderful amateur rider lady. He was a very nice colt, a little full of himself at first, but this was easily managed with the "brain surgery" (gelding) before he was a year old. He was very typey, above average mover. Very good conformation. He did a wonderful job at improving the dam, and the resulting colt is now turning 2, is tall (shall end around 16.3+) and easy in every way. His name is Sternentanzer and is visible on our website. www.autumnsstables.com/eng/sternentanzer.html

                                He is our picture boy. http://www.autumnsstables.com/img/tanzer_nbg_arl.png
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                                • Original Poster

                                  Some gorgeous horse's in this thread. Thank you for your help everyone. Though my reading has lead me to a few more questions for those of you who have first hand experience with his offspring.
                                  1. What did you want to improve the most on your mare - did the end result show improvement in said area?
                                  2. At what quality (Ammy, Mid Level, FEI Level, etc) would you rate the offspring?


                                  • #18
                                    1. I wanted to improve the front end (longer front leg) while not losing suppleness in the back, power and reach in the hindquarters, or a bold temperament. I got what I was looking for - a very modern and light-footed type, with 3 super gaits, powerful behind, and an excellent front, very curious and bold.

                                    2. Both of my foals are FEI quality, IMO. But until they are under saddle, I cannot comment on rideability.
                                    Martha Haley - NeverSayNever Farm
                                    2009 KWN-NA Breeder of the Year/Silver Level Breeder


                                    • Original Poster

                                      I must say, I just saw the video Jennifer posted on Diamond Stud as well as received 1 PM from a member with photo's of her Diamond Stud filly, and he's certainly on my list to watch between now and when I finally have to make the decision!


                                      • #20
                                        Hi Fairhaven,

                                        I have a Kadans daughter that I bred to Sir Gregory in 2011. The resulting colt is FABULOUS. SG put on a leggier model, with a very pretty head. This colt is the best dressage mover out of the 5 foals the mare has produced to date. All are good movers, very powerful behind which they consistently get from the mom, but this has that extra bit of elasticity and animation. His front leg movement has a lot of knee to it. This one is NOT a hunter type.