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  • #41
    Originally posted by JWB View Post
    Also (correct me if I'm wrong) RPSI considers any TB stallion who won $100k on the track to be "approved" and can be used for breeding. Provided the mare (JC or otherwise) has been approved RPSI, the resulting foals are eligible for full registration with RPSI too.
    I may need to look into that. Our Grey Sovereign-line stallion earned more than $100k at the track. I hadn't thought about any registries giving race stallions an automatic approval.
    Hidden Echo Farm, Carlisle, PA -- home of JC palomino sire Canadian Kid (1990 - 2013) & AQHA sire Lark's Favorite, son of Rugged Lark.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by JWB View Post
      Also (correct me if I'm wrong) RPSI considers any TB stallion who won $100k on the track to be "approved" and can be used for breeding. Provided the mare (JC or otherwise) has been approved RPSI, the resulting foals are eligible for full registration with RPSI too.

      I drool over Alphabet Soup and if the circumstances were ever right, I'd use him in a heart beat on a full TB or half TB mare to produce a sport horse. Would probably register with RPSI if the foal was not eligible for JC, but I think one of the major deal breakers is that they pretty much ONLY offer live cover.
      I think that is the case as that's how Star slipped in. His sire was a racing TB, though I'm not sure how much money he won and his dam was an approved Hannoverian.
      The Evil Chem Prof

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Paddles10 View Post
        Dottie has a Facebook page with current pictures. Some very nice prospects, They have been breeding for 30 plus years.
        Paddy that she has on her FB, is a full brother to my horse Skipper. Skipper, the 3 y.o. who walked down the road more politely in the for-us-brisk weather today than the 13 y.o. He looked around, but it was that TB looking around where they are scanning to see what's around without stopping to look.
        The Evil Chem Prof

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        • #44
          Originally posted by LKenn View Post
          Thank you everyone for all the replies. I am located in Ga so some of the places mentioned are a bit far, mostly the west coast. I have friends in Michigan and Virginia that I would trust to scope out horses for me and I am not opposed to a roadtrip This is a long term goal that I hope to accomplish in about 1 to 2yrs. Looking for that "special horse".
          I breed a few TBs, but mostly Anglo Arabians that are up to 75% TB. Most all are over 16.1h and bred for hunters and dressage. Located in FL. I just sold a yearling gelding by Jones Hall that you would have loved I average about 2 foals a year.
          The Inverted Y
          Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
          2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
          www.allanglos.net

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          • #45
            I need to look into that for my stallion Noles. He is producing some very competitive hunters, jumpers and eventers.

            Thanks for sharing.


            Originally posted by JWB View Post
            Also (correct me if I'm wrong) RPSI considers any TB stallion who won $100k on the track to be "approved" and can be used for breeding. Provided the mare (JC or otherwise) has been approved RPSI, the resulting foals are eligible for full registration with RPSI too.

            I drool over Alphabet Soup and if the circumstances were ever right, I'd use him in a heart beat on a full TB or half TB mare to produce a sport horse. Would probably register with RPSI if the foal was not eligible for JC, but I think one of the major deal breakers is that they pretty much ONLY offer live cover.
            www.hilltopfarmva.com

            Facebook: Hilltop Farm VA

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            • #46
              Just saw this photo on FB of my Jones Hall yearling gelding that I sold. He is an Anglo Arabian. Will make 16h. He lives in SC now.
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              The Inverted Y
              Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
              2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
              www.allanglos.net

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              • #47
                Just checked back through my earlier correspondence with RPSI. Here's what I found out.

                My email to RPSI:
                I’m not overly familiar with your registry, having used only BWP and AHHA in the past but I’ve heard some things that make your registry of particular interest to me and I wanted to get some clarification, as well as answers to some of my other questions.

                1) Is it true that a TB stallion who has won $100,000 on the track is considered “approved” for Register I foals, even without going through an inspection? There are some lovely race TBs that I would like to use but I won’t breed a horse that can’t be registered.
                2) Could a horse that is full TB by blood receive register I papers?
                3) Do you make any provisions for use of outside stallions that are approved by other registries? I prefer to stick with a single registry and not have to go to another mare approval if a stallion can be used through some sort of “outside stallion” clause.


                RPSI Answer:
                WE will answer your questions in order that you have written them:

                #1 - Yes TB stallions with earnings $100,000 and over are considered completing their performance record so any offspring they sire will receive full registration papers as long as the Dam's side is eligible.

                #2 - If a TB stallion received 60 points or higher when presented to us at an inspection will be eligible for Stallion Book I as long as he completes the required performance record plus the 30 Day Test or the 70 day test and passes. (Follow up correspondence has in plain english that yes, a full TB by blood can be registered in book I with RPSI if both parents are approved.)

                #3 - Any Stallion that is not in our German Breeding Books or inactive in the books we charge an additional $50.00 for a non-stallion fee.

                Hope this answers your questions.
                The rebel in the grey shirt

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                  Not many as the market isn't there. The ones that do tend to be "colored tbs"
                  yes to both. I started out with Paints, moved on to Painted TBs . And the ones that didn't come out with color that were solid colored non race bred Tbs...I got incessant comments from people about why did I have them at price X when they could get an OTTb for half the price. My standard response is that an OTTB may be a perfectly fine horse but it is priced cheaper because it has already failed at its intended job (racing). Mine has not failed at its intended job. I started breeding my TB mares to WB mares more because as much as I love my TBs.....the WB crosses sold better. I have 2 TB mares here now. 1 is bred to moy 3/4 TB Paint stallion so the foal will be 7/8 TB and the other is a colored TB mare I intend to breed to a TB stallion.
                  Providence Farm
                  http://providencefarmpintos.blogspot.com/

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                  • #49
                    People breeding "odd colored" TB's face a lot of challenges. Some people think "we" indescriminately pick stock that will produce color. I know of very few "color" breeders who are guilty of this!! In this day and age, EVERY breeder should be aiming for quality foals, not just odd colors. Breeders who breed for a big trot or a big jump don't face these critics!!! We too, have added Irish Sport Horse blood to our breeding program to meet the WB desires and anti-TB buyers. A good horse is a good horse, regardless of color or breed. Every horse buyer has his own preferrences. A bargain OTTB MAY be wonderful...or may have a lot of mental and physical baggage to deal with.
                    www.crosscreeksporthorses.com
                    Breeders of Painted Thoroughbreds and Uniquely Painted Irish Sport Horses in Northeast Oklahoma

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                    • #50
                      Due to the new TB Incentive Progams and the success of Syberia (2006 JC Cybaby) in the hunter ring, we have acquired some new TB mares to add to our mare band.

                      I have 5 TB foals expected in 2013 as well as full siblings to a number of successful WB Cybabies. There are also a few TBs foals on the way from outside mares.

                      I, too, love a good TB and am thrilled with the new programs being offered and hope it results in a resurgence in their popularity!
                      www.debracysporthorses.com
                      Home of Sea Accounts xx
                      AHS/HV, ATA, GOV, RPSI, JC, AQHA, APHA, APtHA
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                      • #51
                        We very much breed our TB's for Sport disciplines and not the race track ...

                        www.TrueColoursFarm.com

                        I just sold 2 of my full TB youngsters into show homes and they will be leaving in January and February and I just bought another full TB mare to put into my breeding program

                        I am finding my full TB market as strong or maybe even stronger than its has ever been, so the value, interest and credibility appears to be holding its own and increasing as each year goes by

                        Its very very healthy from what I am seeing

                        Have fun in your search!
                        www.TrueColoursFarm.com
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