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  • American Bred?

    I have purchased and imported several young horses from Germany and Ireland. Mostly Ireland now, through Richard Sheane. Recently, I had someone come to me with an interest in investing in young, unbacked, American bred jumpers... And I had no idea where to start! I would be able to find a decent horse that was started in America but I have very little knowledge of who breeds young sporthorses, similar to the quality I have been purchasing abroad. Is anyone able to enlighten me?

    Thanks!

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    Unbacked 3YO?

    Some of the breeders who are active on this forum might have some, but I sense they mostly sell their young stock before that.

    If your are looking for foals, maybe yearlings, there are many breeders active here that would probably appreciate the inquiry.

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    • #3
      Newcastle, the leading Saugerties circuit 6yo jumper this year under Todd Minikus, is (Orame x Contender), registered AHHA.

      I bred and started him and took him to his first shows.

      Our horses also led every age group (2, 3, & 4yo) through the Young Horse Show series in freejumping.

      We have plenty more, this age and younger...

      www.hiddenpearlfarm.com
      Hidden Pearl Farm

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      • #4
        We have had 2 First Premium Jumper bred KWPN foals the last 2 years but both are now sold. But we have definitely changed our breeding focus from mainly dressage to about half jumper breds now. There are many breeders like me out there if you do a search for bloodlines etc...it might help. Best wishes in your search.
        www.lazyjsporthorses.com

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        • #5
          October Hill Farm
          Spy Coast Farm
          Sakura Hill Farm

          Just of the top of my head....
          The rebel in the grey shirt

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          • #6
            I see a lot of temptation...er...quality here in North America. A good place to start is to google a stallion you fancy and narrow the search by date or go to a website for a particular verband (belgian warmblood= bwp-na) to see the links to the farms.

            I also sent you a private message. good luck and great idea.

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            • #7
              Our slogan at Hyperion is "Europe's Finest, Made in America". We are focused on breeding the same quality that the Europens offer. We have some exceptional options from our 2011 and 2012 crops still available if your looking for horses bred with a focus for the jumping sport.

              We also offer a lot of stallion choices for breeding if that is of interest as well.

              So wonderful to hear you are focusing on horses bred here in NA when looking to buy! There are many breeders out there like us who are working diligently at producing top horses for sport. If we don't have what interests you then I can suggest many others for you to take a look at. PM for more info and of course please visit our website to have a look at what's available from our program.

              Cheers!
              Hyperion Stud, LLC.
              Europe's Finest, Made in America
              WWW.HYPERIONSTUD.com
              Standing Elite and Approved Stallions

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              • #8
                If you are open to Canada, then I would look at www.fermebeaulieufarm.com. Ferme Beaulieu Farm has many youngsters to choose from, from all the best European jumper bloodlines. Proven marelines, 5 generations, working on 6 in 2013. I can't say I know another farm with 5 generations of breeding stock still alive and breeding in NA.
                www.bluemoonstables.ca

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cover Girl View Post
                  If you are open to Canada, then I would look at www.fermebeaulieufarm.com. Ferme Beaulieu Farm has many youngsters to choose from, from all the best European jumper bloodlines. Proven marelines, 5 generations, working on 6 in 2013. I can't say I know another farm with 5 generations of breeding stock still alive and breeding in NA.
                  if i wanted a jumper this is where i would start i *love* their horses!

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                  • #10
                    We also have Made in America prospects. Mare lines have produced regional, national, and international competition horses. We have used the best European bloodlines infused with TB blood. Have a look at our website.
                    Judy
                    Sylvan Farm~Breeding for Performance
                    Ramzes SF, approved GOV and Belgian http://sylvanfarm.com
                    USEF National ID and Horse Recording Task Force; USHJA Jumper Breeding Ad Hoc Committee

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                    • #11
                      If you like Irish
                      http://irishdraught.com/#saleshorses

                      http://www.belltowerstud.com/
                      I wasn't always a Smurf
                      Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
                      "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                      The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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                      • #12
                        Thank you for the kind shout-out, JWB!

                        We focus on breeding top notch jumpers for the big ring from imported mares with top-producing bloodlines from Europe- Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands, France. We choose stallions with a view towards proven progeny in competition, breed approvals, rideability and, yes, temperament - a quality less highlighted in Europe. If there is a sire that a client is particularly keen on having offspring from and he is a good match in terms of pedigree, conformation and temperament with one of our mares, we can do a custom foal contract. Typically, our foals sell young- frequently before birth! However, we are re-tooling our operation to allow us to retain more of the young stock longer because so many have asked us for precisely what you are requesting- unstarted three year olds and four year olds prospects.

                        We also breed hunters for the American market, essentially using two Alla'Czar mares to which we are adding others.

                        It is heartening to read the post of the OP which goes to the core of what we so frequently discuss here on this forum---how to encourage buyers to "look American" before going abroad. We KNOW that we and many others have stock on a par, if not, indeed, exceeding the quality of the stock in Europe.....all stemming from the same bloodlines, but bred with a focus on the American client.
                        Last edited by Sakura Hill Farm; Nov. 30, 2012, 08:41 PM.
                        Sakura Hill Farm
                        Now on Facebook

                        Young and developing horses for A-circuit jumper and hunter rings.

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                        • #13
                          There are several smaller breeding programs in the U.S. breeding young jumper prospects, but it can take some searching to find them. My program usually produces 3-5 foals/year, but most of them sell either in-utero or pre-weaning. However, we usually have at least 1 or 2 youngsters that we have held back to start under-saddle and I would guess that is the same for many of the smaller breeders here. It is a labor of love to put the time and money into top genetics when you are dealing with a small breeding program, but so far it has been worth it!
                          Last edited by Hillside H Ranch; Nov. 30, 2012, 06:07 PM.
                          Already excited about our 2016 foals! Expecting babies by Indoctro, Diamant de Semilly, Zirocco Blue and Calido!
                          https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hills...h/112931293227

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                          • #14
                            I would add to the already esteemed list above http://www.risingstarfarm.net/ , , http://www.claybrookfarms.com/, http://www.ironspringfarm.com/,
                            "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                            • #15
                              Branscomb Farm in CA, Hidden Pearl Farm in PA, Birch Hollow Farm in MA, FoxFire Farm in WA, Maggie's Menagerie in GA and Minglewood Sporthorses(me) in NY (www.minglewoodsporthorses.net). These are all Holsteiner breeding farms.
                              Last edited by Maryanne Nicpon; Dec. 1, 2012, 01:11 PM.
                              Maryanne Nicpon
                              Minglewood Sport Horses
                              Ballston Spa, NY

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                              • #16
                                Sport horses in Virginia

                                I own the Holsteiner stallion, Concerto Grosso. My main broodmare is a Voltaire daughter who I bred to Cicera's Icewater producing three offspring. My daughter is now competing the oldest one at the Preliminary level and all her coaches say the horse can go to the top. I bred his two sisters to Concerto Grosso and am wowed by the cross. I have traveled overseas and don't believe the European have anything on us. Americans have always thought it more glamorous to buy in Europe and say they imported their horses.

                                We have a program where we start our own babies that we have cared for since conception. We have four year olds to in-utero for sale.

                                Rosemarie Merle-Smith
                                www.virginiafieldhunters.com

                                http://www.facebook.com/vafieldhunters
                                Virginia Field Hunters
                                https://m.facebook.com/vafieldhunters?ref=bookmark

                                https://m.facebook.com/studconcertogrosso?ref=bookmark CONCERTO GROSSO

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                                • #17
                                  You may wish to speak to Sonja Lowenfish of the American Warmblood Registry for some guidance. She is very familiar with jumper lines from Europe and may be able to give u some insight for more top breeders in ther USA and Canada. She is originally from Germany ( many years ago) where her family has been involved in jumpers for several generations. I believe they bred Holsteiners and were heavily involved with the Holsteiner Association.
                                  "It's not how good you ride, It's how good your horse covers for you." -Kristan
                                  Magic Rose Farm- home of Beste Gold & Hot Shot
                                  Beste Gold & Offspring on Facebook
                                  Magic Rose Farm Warmbloods on FB

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                                  • #18
                                    Jump Start Farm

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                                    • #19
                                      We also breed young jumpers at Silver Creek Farms. Most of our jumper prospects sell to professionals before we have the opportunity to start them, so they are not here long. Some of our homebreds are below -
                                      Validation S (4 year old) http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...56721434_n.jpg
                                      Venice S (5 year old) http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08612299_n.jpg
                                      Casciendo S (4 year old) http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._4733075_n.jpg
                                      Parquette S (6 year old in AAs) http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...26112408_n.jpg
                                      Parlay S (3 year old) http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._1415516_n.jpg
                                      Pirate S (2 year old) http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...32109071_n.jpg
                                      Appeal S (3 year old) http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...48242444_n.jpg
                                      Casallio S (4 year old) http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...50951834_n.jpg

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                                      • #20
                                        Really? Two dislikes? Did I name a farm that someone doesn't like or did I leave you off the list?
                                        The rebel in the grey shirt

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