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    Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
    Bonaparte N looks really interesting
    Can you elaborate?
    http://www.tamarawiththecamera.com

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    • Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
      Bonaparte N looks really interesting
      Crazy talented.
      It is like the SF and how they have used this cross to produce a great jump.

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        Originally posted by stoicfish View Post
        Crazy talented.
        It is like the SF and how they have used this cross to produce a great jump.
        OK... that's awesome but he's not an Arabian/WB cross, he's an AA. All good but not sure about the point. Good info for those producing Anglos. Thanks for sharing.
        http://www.tamarawiththecamera.com

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        • Originally posted by SportArab View Post
          Really pretty mare. I remember seeing some video of UB40 when he was a young horse. Wonderful movement.

          I also did always like Fyre One. Not surprised that the cross worked since I think Polish and Crabbet work well with warmbloods due to their strong conformation and good movment.
          I have a 22 year old mare that is Polish/ Crabbet. Love her My boy really is the best of both worlds!


          Originally posted by stripes View Post
          He is growing up nicely! I know he's not yours, but do you know if he's under saddle yet? I've actually been watching this youngster as he grows up, love that UB40 is his sire.
          Wooohooo I finally have internet again!

          Uri is not undersaddle yet, he will be three in April! I plan on taking him to the YHS Finals in January, then he will get to relax a bit until I send him away for some light training I am a big big fan of UB40. I would do this exact cross again in a heartbeat...now if I only won the powerball last night....
          Samantha Werner

          There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers

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          • Originally posted by stripes View Post
            Little Red Dragon, haha. She's beautiful! Not that I'm planning on breeding my E II filly in the near future, I do think about where to go with her when the time comes. Its nice to see an F2. Well done!
            Thanks, I have always had a fantasy to breed her to Diamond Hit for an F3, but it isn't feasible given the economy.

            I was digging through old files on the computer last night trying to find photos for the slide show at our barn Christmas party, and I ran across some photos from past years - including one of her in the double that I had totally forgotten about. We'll see if I can get these attached.

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            • Oops, sorry. Your guy's a guy.... not a mare. Still, very lovely. Got any new pics?

              Originally posted by SamWerner View Post
              I have a 22 year old mare that is Polish/ Crabbet. Love her My boy really is the best of both worlds!




              Wooohooo I finally have internet again!

              Uri is not undersaddle yet, he will be three in April! I plan on taking him to the YHS Finals in January, then he will get to relax a bit until I send him away for some light training I am a big big fan of UB40. I would do this exact cross again in a heartbeat...now if I only won the powerball last night....
              co-author of
              Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
              www.duelforthecrown.com

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              • NICE mare!

                I especially like the canter shot.

                Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                Thanks, I have always had a fantasy to breed her to Diamond Hit for an F3, but it isn't feasible given the economy.

                I was digging through old files on the computer last night trying to find photos for the slide show at our barn Christmas party, and I ran across some photos from past years - including one of her in the double that I had totally forgotten about. We'll see if I can get these attached.

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]37254[/ATTACH] This photo was taken when she was not quite 5 y/o, and within a few weeks of starting dressage training after playing in the hunters for a couple of years.

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]37255[/ATTACH] This one was taken sometime last summer

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]37256[/ATTACH] Also taken last summer

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]37257[/ATTACH] And here is the one again from the schooling show earlier this month.
                co-author of
                Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
                www.duelforthecrown.com

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                • Originally posted by stripes View Post
                  Can you elaborate?
                  Why couldnt you cross him on a WB? He still has Arab blood in there..
                  Hickstead 1996-2011 Godspeed
                  " Hickstead is simply the best and He lives forever in our hearts"
                  Akasha 1992-2012 - I will always love you sweet girl.

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                  • Is he approved Hanovarian, GOV, etc.?

                    Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
                    Why couldnt you cross him on a WB? He still has Arab blood in there..
                    co-author of
                    Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
                    www.duelforthecrown.com

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                    • I had a SF/Arab cross and she was INCREDIBLE. She was smart, talented, versatile and of course, completely gorgeous. I would buy a similar cross again in a heart beat.

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                      • Originally posted by SportArab View Post
                        Is he approved Hanovarian, GOV, etc.?
                        Yes - the Hannoverian Verband and is approved for their Jumper breeding program..

                        http://landgestuetcelle.de/cms/front...=16&idart=1878
                        Hickstead 1996-2011 Godspeed
                        " Hickstead is simply the best and He lives forever in our hearts"
                        Akasha 1992-2012 - I will always love you sweet girl.

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                        • SF?

                          Originally posted by TannerS View Post
                          I had a SF/Arab cross and she was INCREDIBLE. She was smart, talented, versatile and of course, completely gorgeous. I would buy a similar cross again in a heart beat.
                          co-author of
                          Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
                          www.duelforthecrown.com

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                          • Original Poster

                            Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
                            Why couldnt you cross him on a WB? He still has Arab blood in there..
                            I guess someone could, but its not why I started this thread. I wanted to see WB's with Arabian blood. I also wanted to see how many breeders of the Arabian/WB cross go thru WB registries for their foals. I've seen how thread go off onto other unrelated things and I just want to keep this on track. I hope you understand. Thanks

                            He's a super horse, I have a friend that wants to breed her AA mare to him.
                            http://www.tamarawiththecamera.com

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                            • Original Poster

                              Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                              Thanks, I have always had a fantasy to breed her to Diamond Hit for an F3, but it isn't feasible given the economy.

                              I was digging through old files on the computer last night trying to find photos for the slide show at our barn Christmas party, and I ran across some photos from past years - including one of her in the double that I had totally forgotten about. We'll see if I can get these attached.

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]37254[/ATTACH] This photo was taken when she was not quite 5 y/o, and within a few weeks of starting dressage training after playing in the hunters for a couple of years.

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]37255[/ATTACH] This one was taken sometime last summer

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]37256[/ATTACH] Also taken last summer

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]37257[/ATTACH] And here is the one again from the schooling show earlier this month.
                              Love her! But I have a big soft spot for the red heads. What was her Arabian breeding again?
                              http://www.tamarawiththecamera.com

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                              • Original Poster

                                Originally posted by SportArab View Post
                                SF?
                                Selle Francais. There is quite a bit of Arabian blood here too.
                                http://www.tamarawiththecamera.com

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                                • What is it about Diamond Hit that calls out to you - vs any of the stallions currently standing in the US?

                                  I was thinking of using frozen semen myself after GOV inspector suggested Romancier for my black Grandom daughter, but have had mixed results with frozen and would as soon skip it when dealing with a maiden mare. Am currently looking at Rubignon for her.

                                  Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                                  Thanks, I have always had a fantasy to breed her to Diamond Hit for an F3, but it isn't feasible given the economy.

                                  I was digging through old files on the computer last night trying to find photos for the slide show at our barn Christmas party, and I ran across some photos from past years - including one of her in the double that I had totally forgotten about. We'll see if I can get these attached.

                                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]37254[/ATTACH] This photo was taken when she was not quite 5 y/o, and within a few weeks of starting dressage training after playing in the hunters for a couple of years.

                                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]37255[/ATTACH] This one was taken sometime last summer

                                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]37256[/ATTACH] Also taken last summer

                                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]37257[/ATTACH] And here is the one again from the schooling show earlier this month.
                                  co-author of
                                  Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
                                  www.duelforthecrown.com

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                                  • SportArab-

                                    Haha no...the mare that was posted is my boy's dam You had it right. I was also just mentioning that I have a purebred Crabbet/Polish mare as my second horse!
                                    Sonesta posted one picture of him on here, but here is the link to a public album of my boy who is the one by UB40 out of the black Polish/Crabbet mare that you saw a picture of:

                                    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...3401537&type=3

                                    Here is the latest full body picture I have of him (cell phone quality!):

                                    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

                                    Enjoy!
                                    Samantha Werner

                                    There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers

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                                    • Originally posted by stripes View Post
                                      Love her! But I have a big soft spot for the red heads. What was her Arabian breeding again?
                                      Thanks again. She may not be the most uber-talented dressage horse of all time, but she has more try in her than any other horse I know. Her work ethic is fantastic - she comes out every day ready to do her best, and she never says "no" under saddle (well, sometimes if she hasn't jumped in a while, she will be hesitant at first about jumping, but once she gets in the groove, she is pretty fancy about it). She loves the mental aspect of doing hard stuff and is always willing to give something the old college try. We can sometimes see her just thinking, "Are you sure? Well, okay, this is kind of weird but if that's what you want..." And then once she learns something, she is all gung-ho to show it off - sometimes all you have to do is think about something and she will do it. And she is quick about it, so you better be ready!

                                      Here is her pedigree again - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pflashpoint

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                                      • Originally posted by SportArab View Post
                                        What is it about Diamond Hit that calls out to you - vs any of the stallions currently standing in the US?

                                        I was thinking of using frozen semen myself after GOV inspector suggested Romancier for my black Grandom daughter, but have had mixed results with frozen and would as soon skip it when dealing with a maiden mare. Am currently looking at Rubignon for her.
                                        My mare is a bit weak behind - along with her Arabian intelligence, eagerness to please, refinement, and high energy, she got the Arabian hind end - a bit level in the croup, and she could have a better loin connection. I think DH could help her in the hindquarters and particularly with the loin, plus I have always loved him - used to see him pretty regularly at Schockemoehle's before he was sold to Emma Hindle. And, as I posted elsewhere, what is not to like? He is a proven GP stallion, he comes from 3 straight generations of GP stallions, and he is a proven sire of GP horses. Downside of using DH is it would be a line-breeding on Pik Bube I and II, which I am not sure is a good thing (although both would be 4 generations back in the foal). Also, since DH has a bit of firecracker blood in him, I might end up with a firecracker foal. But if the foal has a better hind end and loin then my mare, but also has my mare's work ethic and eagerness to please, it could be a super dressage horse.

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                                        • Samwerner- what a LOVELY boy!

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