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Oldenburg stallions that consistently produce height and movement?

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  • Oldenburg stallions that consistently produce height and movement?

    Have a very nice mare (scored well in her inspection), but who is a bit stature challenged. Looking for a stallion that will preserve her nice movement, but add a few inches in height.

    Any suggestions?
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    Ironman is well known to produce height, and movement. Most Offspring average a hand bigger than the mare. My horse is 17.1 1/2 out of a 16.1 hand mare.
    Nancy
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    • #3
      Dressage Royal. There is a great write-up about his World Champion son Desperado OLD and Carol a Koppelmann on Eurodressage.

      http://www.eurodressage.com/equestri...-desperado-old
      Last edited by not again; Nov. 8, 2012, 03:30 PM.
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      • #4
        Gatsby added height to the foal of our 16 h mare
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        • #5
          That's why I used Freestyle. Both babies should end up at least 16.2-17 (mom is 15.3) and certainly made her movement even nicer.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Beentheredonethat View Post
            That's why I used Freestyle. Both babies should end up at least 16.2-17 (mom is 15.3) and certainly made her movement even nicer.
            LOVE Freestyle! If I breed again I would love to use him.

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            • #7
              SportArab, did you steal my mare??

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                Originally posted by Personal Champ View Post
                SportArab, did you steal my mare??

                So, what's the breeding on my mare's "twin." :-)
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                • #9
                  Um, I am not fluent in warmblood-eze, but she is by A Crown Court (a son of Not Again and Tasker's Abundance), and out of a TB, Country Music Queen.

                  She also went premium at her inspection and is just a joy to have. Wish I could get a carbon copy with about 2-3 more inches in height. She is about 15.3 and a red head to boot!

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                  • #10
                    You might try Tantris, he sure put the movement on our foals. Mares were already tall 17H girls, so tall babies were expected. Nice temperment as well, with a good work ethic, on the stallion and his babies. He is 16.3H on his site. We really like him a lot.

                    http://www.turningpointfarm.com/?page_id=8

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                    • #11
                      Donnerschlag is an excellent choice and already proven to be a good sire on Arabian mares. He has FEI HA get. =)
                      http://www.fairwindfarm.com/donnerschlag.htm
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by horsetales View Post
                        Gatsby added height to the foal of our 16 h mare
                        My Gatsby foal will certainly end up much closer to 17h than his 16.1h+ dam
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                          In my experience, Freestyle, Blue Hors Romanov, Sir Donnerhall.
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                          • #14
                            Here are a few taller guys based in NA:

                            Bonheur (16.3h)
                            Coromino (17h)
                            Devon Heir (16.3h)
                            Don Caruso (16.3h)
                            Fabuleux (16.3h)
                            Falsterbo (16.3h)
                            Freestyle (17h)
                            Harvard (16.3h)
                            Ironman (17h)
                            Landtinus (17H)
                            Landkoenig (16.3h)
                            Lagoheidor (16.3h)
                            Sandro's Heir (16.3h)
                            Soprano (17H)
                            Schroeder (17h)
                            Sonntagskind (16.3h)
                            Rousseau (17h)
                            Richman (17h)
                            Rubinus (16.3h)
                            Sir Sinclair (17h)
                            Where's Waldo (17h)
                            Wolkentanz II (16.3h)

                            That should give you a few to think about, but some may be more hunter type movers than big dressage movers, so you will have to take a closer look at them. All these guys are approved OHBS/GOV and probably other registries, too.

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                            • #15
                              If you are willing to try frozen then Furst Romancier might be a good choice.

                              Dan
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dan View Post
                                If you are willing to try frozen then Furst Romancier might be a good choice.

                                Dan
                                Interesting. That was the suggestion from the inspector who gave my girl good scores for confo and movement, but graded her down for being "small." She's a Grandom daughter who just turned six in late August and is now about 15.1h. I'm hoping she gains another couple of inches in the next year or two. But who knows.

                                Was hoping to avoid frozen, but that may be the way to go.
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                                Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
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                                  I have a mare who has big genes, but is on the shorter side. Her biggest foals have been by Harvard and Hotline. The Hotline will mature close to 17 hh. Harvard is available fresh, great semen, and Hotline has good frozen. I agree with size thrown by Blue Hors Romanov; I have a filly by him who has good size, out of a mare who has produced smaller foals.
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                                  • #18
                                    I had a similar situation (except mare is smaller - 15.1 1/2 hands) and paid for a breeding to Rubignon. He's know to add a few inches to his offspring.

                                    http://rainbowequus.com/rem-stallions/rubignon/

                                    (Unfortunately although she got pregnant 3 times she didn't hold it because she has thyroid issues. Hopefully we may have gotten that fixed - and if so I may try once again. But good news is his sperm is great!).
                                    Now in Kentucky

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                                    • #19
                                      Gatsby

                                      Gatsby consistently adds height to mares, and in addition to length of limb, correctness, bone/substance, beautiful toplines and lots of floaty movement, he also passes on his OUTSTANDING mind!
                                      Last edited by Foxdale Farm; Nov. 13, 2012, 01:41 PM. Reason: typo

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                                        Originally posted by Valentina_32926 View Post
                                        I had a similar situation (except mare is smaller - 15.1 1/2 hands) and paid for a breeding to Rubignon. He's know to add a few inches to his offspring.

                                        http://rainbowequus.com/rem-stallions/rubignon/

                                        (Unfortunately although she got pregnant 3 times she didn't hold it because she has thyroid issues. Hopefully we may have gotten that fixed - and if so I may try once again. But good news is his sperm is great!).
                                        I had considered Rubignon, but hadn't heard that he is known for throwing height.

                                        My mare's dam has a son by Amiral who is 16.2, so I would expect the Grandom mare to be able to produce size if I just find the right stud.
                                        co-author of
                                        Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
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