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  • Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
    When I google Jill Burnell this is the third result. First is her FB page, second is her warrant, and this is third.

    Lets tag this a bit more.

    Jill Burnell
    Gray Fox Farm
    Grey Fox Farm
    Redwine Stallion

    (fixed )
    Oh Please. Are you incapable of posting the correct name for her farm?? Or are you trying to stir the pot and drag reputable farms that have nothing to do will JB into the mess.
    In your case, I suspect you just want to stir the pot.
    There are two GREY FOX FARMS
    One is an Eventing barn in FL.
    The other is a well known H/J barn that happens to be in CA but has no connection with JB.

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    • Well the Jockey Club just found me in their records and offered their apology so that problem is solved. They are forwarding her information to Old NA. We'll see what happens now.
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      • Originally posted by Yowsa View Post
        I agree with laurierace, it is never simple. I had a mare who the old owners never bothered to register. Sire on file with X registry, dam on file with Y. Getting the dots connected, impossible. I was asked for a breeding certificate, which I couldn't get, and then the dam's mane hair, which I couldn't get, etc. I finally gave up, and never got her registered which was very annoying since she is fully eligible to be!
        Been there, done that, got the tshirt. And no papers
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        • Originally posted by S A McKee View Post
          Oh Please. Are you incapable of posting the correct name for her farm?? Or are you trying to stir the pot and drag reputable farms that have nothing to do will JB into the mess.
          In your case, I suspect you just want to stir the pot.
          There are two GREY FOX FARMS
          One is an Eventing barn in FL.
          The other is a well known H/J barn that happens to be in CA but has no connection with JB.
          I guess you could look at that way, but I was assuming that they were just trying to include the people that don't know the correct spelling for Jill's farm. It is a word with two legitimate spellings.............

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          • Originally posted by Andrew View Post
            Is this the larges posted topic in COTH history? Just curious
            I would be surprised if it was in the top 50.
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            • I am Canadian

              Originally posted by Jealoushe View Post
              Someone may want to cross post this on the Canadian BB Equiman Forums...to see if there are more people there that have been wronged...
              Please let me know if anything can be done for us breeders in Canada who have lost money on breedings. I have a contract paid in full but not even an attempt was made to send me semen when I needed it.

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              • Deardra75 - worming your boy every month is really not a good thing. Take fecals on him to determine if he even has worms now and if he does what worms does he have so you are giving the right wormer. Too much worming can result in resistant worms.
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                • Originally posted by equinedriver View Post
                  I guess you could look at that way, but I was assuming that they were just trying to include the people that don't know the correct spelling for Jill's farm. It is a word with two legitimate spellings.............
                  If you don't know the correct spelling then don't guess or ASSume that others won't either.
                  So what if it has two legit spellings, the other farms have nothing to do with this mess. Are you not getting why dragging farms that have nothing to do with JB into this is a problem? Or are you that challenged?
                  Hey let's add Equinedriver to the list of names that should be tagged as part of JB.

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                  • THIS thread is about JILL BURNELL GRAY FOX FARMS - Northern California

                    Ummm No, I am not just “trying to stir the pot and drag reputable farms that have nothing to do will JB into the mess”. That would be you jumping to conclusions, making assumptions and allegations.

                    I added the other spelling, because on this very thread there were people confused with the spelling, and wondering why this thread wasn’t coming up when they Googled. There are two ways to spell gray / grey, and people tend to use them interchangeably.

                    Why would I be purposely “dragging other farms into this mess”? That makes no rational sense. Sorry there are two farms in this large country that share the other common spelling. I would assume if someone was looking for an eventing barn in FL, they would not be confused by a thread about a breeder named Jill Burnell that does “hunter breeding” in California.

                    Originally posted by S A McKee View Post
                    If you don't know the correct spelling then don't guess or ASSume that others won't either.
                    How do YOU know that everyone that searches for JB’s farm knows which of the two correct spellings of grey / gray to use? We want them to find this thread.


                    Here I will make it clear (in case there is any one that clueless out there that goes OMG that is grey with an E, MUST be the same farm!!!):

                    To any one that stumbles upon this thread looking for GREY Fox Farm in FL (event horses) OR GREY Fox Farm in CAMARILLO, CA – this thread is not about those farms. This is about JILL BURNELL and GRAY FOX FARMS in Petaluma (or soon to be Marin County) that is a HB breeder.

                    Originally posted by S A McKee View Post
                    Oh Please. Are you incapable of posting the correct name for her farm?? Or are you trying to stir the pot and drag reputable farms that have nothing to do will JB into the mess.
                    In your case, I suspect you just want to stir the pot.
                    There are two GREY FOX FARMS
                    One is an Eventing barn in FL.
                    The other is a well known H/J barn that happens to be in CA but has no connection with JB.
                    Last edited by Appsolute; Aug. 28, 2012, 03:28 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by IrishWillow View Post
                      Been there, done that, got the tshirt. And no papers
                      And what was most frustrating is that one of the registries had both parents DNA on file, but wouldn't register without a covering certificate. We are talking a 13 year old mare, with a dead sire who stood overseas. I contacted the place that stood him and as I expected I never heard a peep from them (why would they, right?).

                      Anyway, it's not always as easy as it should be or as it seems.

                      Re JB, I do wonder about all the horses, where they are and how they are doing. Hope all is well in that regard.
                      "Hell, when I move my things go in boxes and I always make sure and bubble wrap my dog feces so it don't get broke." runwayz

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                      • Originally posted by Vintage Lane Sporthorses View Post
                        Please let me know if anything can be done for us breeders in Canada who have lost money on breedings. I have a contract paid in full but not even an attempt was made to send me semen when I needed it.
                        PM Equinedriver with your information.
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                        • Originally posted by S A McKee View Post
                          If you don't know the correct spelling then don't guess or ASSume that others won't either.
                          So what if it has two legit spellings, the other farms have nothing to do with this mess. Are you not getting why dragging farms that have nothing to do with JB into this is a problem? Or are you that challenged?
                          Hey let's add Equinedriver to the list of names that should be tagged as part of JB.
                          Do you EVER contribute anything worthwhile?

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                          • Hello
                            I talked to my vet about worming my horses every month... the reason why we do it here in the South because worms are more of a problems.. since we don't get a good freeze sometimes the next year its pretty bad.. But my vet said it was okay. I know if you worm with the same wormer it can stop working so rotating out is good. .
                            When we first got him out here. we did a fecal on him and he was worm free.. So that is good.. I also have had to move my horses a bit in this year so I just want to cover all my bases. We do a fecal on mine 2 times a year. Hopefully this next year I won't have to worm every month and go back to doing every 3 to 4 months.

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                            • Originally posted by Deardra75 View Post
                              Hello
                              I talked to my vet about worming my horses every month... the reason why we do it here in the South because worms are more of a problems.. since we don't get a good freeze sometimes the next year its pretty bad.. But my vet said it was okay. I know if you worm with the same wormer it can stop working so rotating out is good. .
                              When we first got him out here. we did a fecal on him and he was worm free.. So that is good.. I also have had to move my horses a bit in this year so I just want to cover all my bases. We do a fecal on mine 2 times a year. Hopefully this next year I won't have to worm every month and go back to doing every 3 to 4 months.
                              Yeah that is really outdated info but let's leave that discussion for a different thread.
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                              • Appsolute- don't worry about her, all she EVER does is post snark and nothing helpful For the record, I don't think you are stirring the pot!
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                                • It was me that spelled it wrong this morning -- but in fact, even with the alternate spelling, threads on the correct Gray Fox Farm come right up in the top five.

                                  There have been no attempts to drag any other farms or people into this thread. No pot stirring, either, except by Jill Burnell's supporters.

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                                  • Equinedriver - can you tell us how many people have contacted you? Major similarities in the stories? Just generally, of course.
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                                    • Just to clarify re: DNA testing. You can't just call up UC Davis and say test against the stallion Redwine. All of their files are by case numbers rather than names. No number, no testing against the file. And the registries do not give out the numbers to the public, though they will provide them to other registries for parentage verification purposes.

                                      Carry on with your discussion of Jill Burnell and Gray Fox Farm in Petaluma CA.
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                                      • Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                                        I am not confused. I already paid to have the mare done, why should I pay to have it done again? UC Davis says I have to get Redwine's info from the registry or test him myself. Obviously that isn't going to happen. The registry says they have his but needs the JC to release my mare's information or test her again. So I can't go through UC Davis at $40 without Redwine's sample and if I go through the registry it is $60 for the mare and $60 for the foal unless the JC learns to read their own papers.
                                        THIS works a long as the owner of the horse(mare or stallion) signs this release....Been there done that.

                                        To:
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                                        Lexington, KY 40503-2794
                                        Phone: (859) 224-2700
                                        Fax: (859) 224-2710

                                        Re: Blood type and/or DNA test results - Cigar

                                        I grant my permission for the release to the (NAME OF REGISTRY HERE ) the blood-type and/or DNA test results for the 19XX TB Stallion:
                                        Cigar by Palace Music
                                        out of Solar Slew by Seattle Slew


                                        Purpose: Identification of offspring

                                        This request is made on behalf of:
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                                        Hill Rd
                                        Anywhere, USA

                                        Signed_______________________ Date______________________
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                                        • Originally posted by Simkie View Post
                                          Do you EVER contribute anything worthwhile?
                                          Actually, S A McKee makes a really valid point and did contribute something worthwhile with her post, albeit not with warm and fuzzy wording. So while you may not like his/her way of saying it, it "is" an important take home message.

                                          But, she/he is correct in that by NOT keeping the names and links correct, there is the very real chance of smearing some other farm's reputation . So, let's ALL be really conscious of spelling and websites for the sake of preventing that from happening.
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