• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Tye dye equines

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Tye dye equines

    Has anyone heard of this place? It's in Idaho, which is about 3000 miles away. I have no way of assessing it as a possible home for my mare, except by asking around. If anyone can give me any info I'd appreciate it!

  • #2
    https://sites.google.com/site/tyedyeequines/ Looks like some sort of a sales barn. Never heard of it. After looking at the web page I would not send my horse there.

    Comment


    • #3
      I've never heard of it and after looking at the site I don't think I would necessarily send my horse there but under the sold horses link, there is information on where the horses went so you could probably contact them and ask about their experience.

      Comment


      • #4
        They plan on breeding the gelding "Miner." They have "carrer goals."

        Um. I don't see any scary things as far as horse care, but I do see some flags as to their professionalism. Fairly new business. Disorganised website. They could have potential, but I'm extraordinarily cautious.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by MCM746 View Post
          Has anyone heard of this place? It's in Idaho, which is about 3000 miles away. I have no way of assessing it as a possible home for my mare, except by asking around. If anyone can give me any info I'd appreciate it!
          Let me guess, this is actually your place and this is a thinly veiled ad? I couldn't imagine sending any animal 3000 miles away to someone you don't know. You can't find somewhere 1000 miles away?
          McDowell Racing Stables

          Home Away From Home

          Comment


          • #6
            Ummmm … wow? They have a 2009 15.0H TB that they are planning to BREED (but they call him a gelding?!?!)

            He is later to mature (nutrition lacked before I got him, he looked like a yearling not a 23 month old when I got him) so he will be started by the end of 2012 once he has had time to mature more (some of his growing is already shown in the pictures between June and September). Out with everyone he is the the "low man on the totem pole" being the baby of the group. The hope is to have his first foal(s) on the ground in 2013; if that doesn't happen then 2014 for sure. There is no rush since I want to him excell in training (and growing) his first few years.
            So really not sure if he has his nuts or not. Certainly doesn’t look like a stallion candidate. I like how he is out with one of the mares they have listed for “free”. Wonder if they are disclosing that the mare has been exposed to a 15H TB.

            They keep their horses behind barbed wire and uncapped T Posts

            https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

            Their horses do not appear to be kept in very good flesh

            Free Mare

            This is a sales photo?

            Skinny - Stud / gelding?

            I wouldn’t send my horse there!
            APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
              Ummmm … wow? They have a 2009 15.0H TB that they are planning to BREED (but they call him a gelding?!?!)



              So really not sure if he has his nuts or not. Certainly doesn’t look like a stallion candidate. I like how he is out with one of the mares they have listed for “free”. Wonder if they are disclosing that the mare has been exposed to a 15H TB.

              They keep their horses behind barbed wire and uncapped T Posts

              https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

              Their horses do not appear to be kept in very good flesh

              Free Mare

              This is a sales photo?

              Skinny - Stud / gelding?

              I wouldn’t send my horse there!

              OMG! I wasn't going to comment at all, but that grey mare is in almost seizure condition! I wouldn't have taken that picture let alone posted it!!!!

              I have a hard keeper TB mare who dealt with a bout of septic lymphangitis, lost her foal during the fever process and looks 150% better than that!
              Holly
              www.ironhorsefrm.com
              Oldenburg foals and young prospects
              LIKE us on Facebook!

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                Thanks for all of your responses...no its not my farm; that's why I'm asking. Maybe you don't sell horses much, but it's not unusual to send horses cross country or even internationally, as I originally did with my mare, whom I imported from Germany. I have a very fancy pregnant mare with a foal by her side. This woman responded to my ad and told me that she is interested in establishing a breeding/sales program and would buy all three. Her offer was a bit low, but I'm more interested in finding a good home for the mare. I agree about the mickey mouse website. She's young, and perhaps too ambitious. I like the suggestion to follow up with some of the places where the horses went. I'll look more closely at the photos. I didn't see any barbed wire. I was hoping to find someone who has actually dealt with her. Her name is Carlin Eckberg. She seems nice, but a bit inexperienced. I just don't know the local professionals out there. If she were on the east coast, I could easily ask around and get the scoop.

                Comment


                • #9
                  If those pictures don't tell you "the scoop" you don't give a crap about what happens to your horse or where she ends up. That should be enough to send you screaming in the other direction.
                  McDowell Racing Stables

                  Home Away From Home

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Barbed wire in the photos I linked to. She has a facebook page with many photos. Lots of barbed wire, uncapped t posts, rough pastures, doesn’t look to be a lot of shelter, but she does appear to blanket in the winter.

                    Photos of very skinny horses, breeding to a neglected 15H 2yo TB stallion. “Brood mares” with no history or credentials provided. – she does say that some are ET recipients…

                    “Warmbloods” = draft crosses to this breeder. She lists the breed of a filly for sale as “warmblood” – it is a mix of TB, Percheron, Belgain, and Paint.

                    https://sites.google.com/site/tyedye...rocket-x-lance(check out the fencing, and condition of the mare)

                    So far her breedings for this year are:

                    Stallion – Shamus - Canadian “Warmblood” (1/2 APHA x 3/8 Percheron x 1/8 Belgian) to an OTTB mare (also looking ribby on FB)

                    Stallion – Miner (the neglected 2 y.o. TB) to “Bunny” a QH x Friesian cross – that has some interesting conformation.

                    "Bunny" - possibly the worst hindquarters I have ever seen.

                    Seriously, breeders like these give me a headache. What exactly is she trying to produce with these crosses? All unproven, poorly conformed horses. These are not the type of “breeders” we need.

                    Edited to add: Wish "Fugly horse of the day" was still at it. This is back yard breeding at its worst. unproven, poorly built horses being bred willy nilly. What an utter disaster!
                    Last edited by Appsolute; Jul. 31, 2012, 07:29 PM.
                    APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MCM746 View Post
                      I didn't see any barbed wire. .

                      The babies are kept behind barbed wire


                      Sorry to harp on this... but I agree with Laurierace. If you can't tell from her website, and FB page, this is not a reputable breeder... and that her horses are underweight and a breeding train wreck.. well then. Why would the "scoop" matter. Are you wondering if it is even worse than the public face she puts on... because it probably is.
                      APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        *sighs*

                        Any horse kept in barbed wire is cringeworthy but foals?! Tragedy waiting to happen.

                        And that poor grey mare.....

                        I cannot imagine sending a horse of mine into that on purpose.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Oh my!!! This is a responsible breeder/horse owner???
                          www.crosscreeksporthorses.com
                          Breeders of Painted Thoroughbreds and Uniquely Painted Irish Sport Horses in Northeast Oklahoma

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Registered?

                            I'd like to know how she plans on getting the foals registered with Oldenburg NA and/or AHHA?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              OMG I know this girl! STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY!

                              I won't trash her on here (here pictures and website do a good enough job of that on their own), but OP if you have questions let me know. I personally know her and have met her several times.
                              Last edited by LovelyBay; Jul. 31, 2012, 08:40 PM. Reason: more
                              Foaling Around www.facebook.com/foalingaround
                              Custom Equestrian Items and Bath Products

                              Comment

                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                Ok I get it. My initial impression was that she seemed nice but a bit clueless, but I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt . Figured that she was just young and inexperienced. I had only seen the website on my iPhone as my regular computer was giving me some trouble and I couldn't get onto her website. Once that was up and running I could see for myself what so many of you have pointed out here. It didnt look so bad on the iphone. Just talking to her gave me an uneasy feeling. I figured I'd post an inquiry here and I was surprised at the number of responses. Today I got my computer fixed and I see what you all mean.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  On her FB page she claims to have bred some mare to this horse:
                                  http://www.foxdalefarm.us/gatsby.htm

                                  Isn't this a CoTHers stallion???

                                  What a freaking death trap that place is.....I want to scoop those free horses up just to get them the hell out of there.

                                  ETA the text from FB in case it disappears:
                                  Tye Dye Equines shared a link.
                                  July 18
                                  I just confirmed with Gatsby's owners and since I couldn't use the breeding this year with Silhouette I will be able to use it next year on Ellie! http://www.foxdalefarm.us/gatsby.htm

                                  GATSBY - 17 hh Homozygous Black Oldenburg Stallion - Breeding & Contact Information
                                  www.foxdalefarm.us
                                  GATSBY - 17 hh Homozygous Black Oldenburg Stallion - Breeding & Contact Information

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    https://sites.google.com/site/tyedye...rses/freelance

                                    This horse is NOT registered with Canadian Warmblood as a stallion or otherwise.

                                    And they used him as a stallion and are calling the offspring a Wb. 6k for a foal.....
                                    If you do own a imported Wb, that should have tipped you off. There is young and then there is dishonest. If you are going to call yourself a professional (Carlin, I mean), you better know better. Ask any of the young people actually involved with breeding Wbs, they would not make such claims!

                                    Comment

                                    • Original Poster

                                      #19
                                      I did wonder about that. Unlike water, Hot (tb) plus cold (draft) does not equal warm (blood), but that seems to be a common misconception among a lot of people. I don't know anything about Canadian WBs, except a lot of them seem curiously related to the premarin foals. I've never bothered to investigate, as my experience with "American WBs" has been underwhelming. I just figured she didnt know the difference and she was just starting out and perhaps she hadn't had the opportunity to find nicer horses.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by MCM746 View Post
                                        I did wonder about that. Unlike water, Hot (tb) plus cold (draft) does not equal warm (blood), but that seems to be a common misconception among a lot of people. I don't know anything about Canadian WBs, except a lot of them seem curiously related to the premarin foals. I've never bothered to investigate, as my experience with "American WBs" has been underwhelming. I just figured she didnt know the difference and she was just starting out and perhaps she hadn't had the opportunity to find nicer horses.
                                        No they are not PMU horses. They are the only Wb registry in Canada that is recognized under federal gov and they only except the major European Warmblood horses, which are listed on the site. There is aux papers for crosses of Wb stallions to other mares, and this was fashioned after the European/Hanoverian model that has recently changed. Where did you see PMU horses that were Canadian Warmblood? Or maybe they were just PMU horses being advertised as CW, like the young lady in question. I guess people get away with it because no one knows enough to check. And if she didn't know the difference why would you even consider sending your mare to her?

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X