• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

When The Mare Is Not Ready To Show, But Her Foal Is

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • When The Mare Is Not Ready To Show, But Her Foal Is

    I have what I think might be the nicest foal I've ever bred. He is HUGE (hocks were almost the same height of his dam's when he was born), beautiful, and very correct. His full sister won the foal class at Upperville two years ago and although she was pretty fabulous, this boy is rockin! The problem is the mare developed an infected tooth (luckily my fiance is an equine dentist and got control of it right away), but she went several days without eating much due to the pain and dropped weight like mad (she milks like a cow, hence the big baby!). Anyway, I am DYING to take him to Upperville, but the mare still doesn't look great. The colt is almost 2 months old, but could easily pass for a 6 month old. However, he is too young to take without his dam. The mare is picking weight back up, but we only have two weeks and I'm not sure if we can pull it off by then. What would you do?
    #JusticeForSunshine

  • #2
    GO ANYWAY! If you're anything like me, you will regret not going.

    I had a similar situation this season. My lovely broodie had a cracking foal by Prestige VDL but he was a greedy little sod and stripped all the weight off her. In the 3 week run up to the show (a very large National level show) I packed as much fattening feed into her as I could. I very nearly didn't go. I was embarrassed that she did not look anything like the sort of condition I would would normally have her in. But she was shiny and turned out beautifully and the foal of course was looking spectacularly chubby in all the right places.

    I took a great big breath, put on a big fake smile, and went anyway. Man, was I pleased I did. The foal won everything and was Reserve Champion against the older horses. The mare won her broodmare class. Everyone understood.

    GO ANYWAY!! Enjoy!

    Comment


    • #3
      I would up her feed, and give it to her two or three times a day. Just pour the feed to her. You can do a lot in 2 weeks.
      Family Partners Welsh Ponies - Home of Section B Welsh stallion *Wedderlie Mardi Gras LOM/AOE http://www.welshponies.com
      Click here to buy: A Guide To In Hand Showing of Your Welsh Pony

      Comment


      • #4
        I don't know about Upperville, but I can tell you that anytime I felt my mare was in a "no show" condition, I went horseless and came home thinking mine would have looked FANTASTIC compared to the others...

        Broodmares, in my neck of the woods at least, often look awful. Thin, rough, hooves slightly neglected (I mean kept on an 8-12 week schedule, instead of 6-8).

        Unless she looks like a starvation case, I would do as rideagoldenpony suggests, I too have seen miracles in as little as 2 weeks, and bring her along.
        www.EquusMagnificus.ca
        Breeding & Sales
        Facebook | YouTube

        Comment


        • #5
          can you feed her 4x per day?? I put almost 100# on a rescue in less than a month by feeding 4 x per day

          I was using Sentinel Senior, beet pulp, the chunky hay stretcher bites and corn oil...

          also, can you have someone who doesn't handle her every day take a look at her and give you an opinion?? she probably looks a lot better than you think!!

          "dress" her up and go!!

          Comment


          • #6
            I agree with taking the foal. I had a mare last year that milked like a cow and had a foal the size of a pony She was definitely on the thin side.. and the filly went on to get premium status.

            They will be looking at the colt, not the dam.

            Pack on as much weight as you can in the next two weeks as that is the best you can do.
            Specializing in Custom Warmblood Foals - www.premiumwarmbloods.com

            Visit Our Facebook Page!

            Comment


            • #7
              I agree - GO! Groom her to the nines; everyone will understand. A mare that looks loved and cared for, but a little thin, with a HUGE baby by her side is not going to raise any eyebrows. And much can change in 2 weeks!

              Comment


              • #8
                You should go, unless the mare is emaciated (which it doesn't sound like) and won't eat on the road, thus further jeopardizing her health. It isn't at all unusual to see mares at less-than-ideal body condition at shows and inspections. You'll regret it if you don't go!
                Already excited about our 2016 foals! Expecting babies by Indoctro, Diamant de Semilly, Zirocco Blue and Calido!
                https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hills...h/112931293227

                Comment

                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Wow, I would have never guessed anyone would say go. You can see most of her ribs. She is usually FAT, so to me, she looks bad, but maybe its not as bad as I think.
                  #JusticeForSunshine

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    www.EquusMagnificus.ca
                    Breeding & Sales
                    Facebook | YouTube

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I've been to a LOT of breeder's shows in the past 4-5 years. I have rarely seen a broodmare with foal at foot that wasn'T ribby/saggy/sad-looking. Really.

                      Mine (a young maiden!) dropped a ton of weight last year nursing and her filly was a total porker. I took her a show in August anyway. Yes i was a bit embarassed by how the mare looked, but the filly won nothing but blues & reds. So, it was all worth it.

                      Go, have fun! And yes, feed your mare like crazy up until then!
                      www.jlsporthorsesales.net

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Definitely go! I think everyone will realize when they see her foal that is why she is in less than ideal condition. Congratulations on the spectacular baby!
                        www.glenhillfarm.com
                        www.learntolikepink.com my journey with breast cancer
                        http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petalu...2907692?ref=ts

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Go ! If the mare is in good health other then a bit sucked down by the foal Go go go!

                          The foal is who is being judged ..she is just there for moral support. Lord knows after raising my siblings and I there were days my mom was not looking so hot (especially after a weekend at a horse show ) !!
                          "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I am going to be the nay sayer here. I wouldn't take any horse in public that looked in poor condition unless I absolutely had to. I have been to breed inspections and heard many nasty comments from spectators about mares who were thin. People who are not very knowledgable can be very catty. I made the mistake last year of posting a picture of one of my foals on Facebook. The mare was in the background in the picture and she looked a bit thin from from nursing such a huge foal and she had had recently broken out in hives due the large flies in the area (hives were resolved within days of the photo being taken). You wouldn't believe the s*** storm that erupted from those pictures. I ended up losing a very lucrative sale because of it. The mare is now fat and sassy and happily owned by knowledgable new owners, but I will never make that mistake again.
                            www.saraalberni.com

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Forte - I understand where you're coming from, but the OP can do a lot in 2 weeks, weight wise.

                              Perhaps you could post the photo you're refering to and the OP can make a direct comparison.

                              Edited to add: We are not a bunch of uneducated semi-horse owners. We are not about to crucify you for having an underweight mare under those circumstances.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Post a picture. I know if a breeder looks at it, like me, they will give you the best advice. Without seeing the picture, I am saying GO.
                                Sandy
                                www.sugarbrook.com
                                hunter/jumper ponies

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  You are right, the mare could improve in two weeks. If the OP is really keen on going to the show, she could always enter and then scratch at the last moment if she doesn't feel the mare has gained enough weight.
                                  There is no way in heck I'd post those pictures of my mare again. I learned my lesson the first time.
                                  www.saraalberni.com

                                  Comment

                                  Working...
                                  X