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    Okay Tiki only one more question (I swear) Why do you say it is not a ration balancer? I pulled this from their site and have been going by it and it's assertion it can be fed with grass or legume hays. Since we have orchard grass pasture, timothy rounds, and feed/supplement with alfalfa we really have a mixed hay type. Again, I'm going by what they said, but then they are trying to sell a product

    From the TDI site:
    TDI-30 Supplement (Ration Balancer) is a pelleted product suitable for all ages of horses and all activity levels. It contains quality protein and has a high concentration of minerals and vitamins. This supplement is specifically blended for those who feed whole grains or prefer to mix their own ration. This means that TDI-30 can be fed to horses individually (add 1 to 2 lbs. daily), or it can be used as the fortification pellet in a custom mix. Using TDI-30, in either manner, is an excellent way to ensure that your horse's nutritional requirements are being satisfied.

    The organic mineral program in the TDI-30 provides enhanced mineral absorption. This provides quality bone development and aids in the prevention of nutritionally related Developmental Orthopedic Disease.

    TDI-30 has an excellent balance of esssential amino acids including lysine, methionine, tryptophan and threonine.

    TDI-30 further demonstrates its flexibility with a formulation that allows it to be fed with either grass or legume type hays. TDI-30 Supplement is progressive and practical...the key ingredient to nutritional balance in your individual feeding program!
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    • #42
      They're not using ration balancer in the traditional, nutritional sense. What they are saying is that it can be used for a ration balancer for people who mix their own grains - e.g. someone buys oats, corn and alfalfa pellets and mixes them together - whoops, no vitamins or minerals - let's add some TDI 30. They're talking about a mixed diet that needs some supplementation.

      What the 'new age' equine nutritionists mean by a ration balancer is a ration that balances the forage portion of the diet. Forage should be the real basis of a horse's diet and you supplement (or balance) for what the forage lacks. Forage these days comes from depleted soils. The grass or alfalfa, or any kind of, hay looks good and green, but when you test it you find that most of the vitamins and minerals are gone. Our soils are depleted and can't supply everything that we, or our horses and other livestock, need, so food companies and grain companies supplement. Most horse feed is supplemented these days. I just don't like to use high starch/sugar feeds for the reasons posted before. OK, so, the 'real' ration balancers have the amounts of vitamins, minerals and trace minerals that you would use in a whole ration, balancing the forage. When you calculate a diet for a horse, you have to consider the whole ration. Lots of people freak when they see a feed that is 30% protein. Well, you only feed 1-3 lbs of it - generally - in a day. The idle horse should have about 10% protein in his/her diet. Most hays these days are down to around 6-8% protein. If you feed a 10% grain at 2 lbs twice a day and about 22 lbs of 7% hay, they horse doesn't get nearly 10% protein. Ration balancers are a way of balancing the forage without increasing the 'empty calories' in the diet. You know, eat a candy bar or a bag of chips for a snack?

      Some of the supplements on the market also call themselves ration balancers, but they're really loaded supplements that can only be fed in small amounts of 1-2 lbs/day because they have too much of the good things in the small amount you can feed. Basically, it all depends on the horse and the use. Some are good. The TDI 30 is probably really good for an air fern gelding who gets fat on anything but coarse hay, but still needs vitamins, minerals and trace minerals. For your broodmare, that's not they way you want to feed her.

      If you're feeding an alfalfa based diet, you probably need a ration balancer formulated for use with alfalfa to balance the Ca:P ratio properly. My horse's diet is grass based so I use one for grass hay. For me using Buckeye there's Gro 'n' Win. You might want to look at Gro 'n' Win Alfa. The grass based balancers are usually around 28-30% protein. The alfalfa balancers are around 14% because alfalfa is a much higher protein base than hay and has an 'upside down' Ca:P ratio. The ones that say they're good for both are for top dressing as a supplement. Broodmares need a proper diet for healthy development of the foal starting even before they're bred, right through weaning. If they're rebred, just keep them on a good diet but change the amounts for the stage of reproduction.

      Hope that's clearer. If not, you're allowed one more question.
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