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  • #21
    Bernie, here is one of my 4 yr olds that is by Contendro and out of a G-line/TB mare. His dam is around 16hands, medium boned. Consensus is around 16 to 16.1 hands right now, but is still growing. He is medium boned.



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      #22
      Gosh, I have yet to see ONE that I don't just love. Beautiful Contendros you guys have!

      This is the mare : http://www.spruceviewfarms.com/main/?page_id=17

      She is very big, large boned, longer in the back and neck..needs a prettier face and better trot with more knee in particular. Canter and walk are excellent ...I am looking to breed an all around type horse, but I do lean more towards dressage.
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      • #23
        Donella - your mare reminds of one of mine 16.3, big big girl



        She produced these two colts from Contendro




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          #24
          Cathy,
          Yes, they are quite similiar aren't they? Those two colts are just WOW... REALLY beautiful type. What is the movement like on them compared to the mare?

          This is looking good. Ha and you got two bays from a chestnut I see.
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          • #25
            The mare I bred to Contendro is similiar to those two mares, but maybe a tad bit lighter. She could use a more refined head, for sure and she is a longer mare (plus is 16.3). She also throws big. I'm glad to see what types of mares are being bred to him and what they are producing; thanks for those pics!

            Here's the mare that is in foal to him for '09: http://www.hillsidehranch.com/hillsidehranch_003.htm
            Already excited about our 2016 foals! Expecting babies by Indoctro, Diamant de Semilly, Zirocco Blue and Calido!
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            • #26
              New jumping picture

              Here's a more recent picture of my Contendro girl:
              http://picasaweb.google.com/jessica....93445058552258

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              • #27
                Maybe someone interested in a short update of Contendro. Currently many offsprings of Contendro are highly successful in international show jumping competitions. In addition there are also quite a few dressage and eventing horses around, so he is seen as a very positive stallion in horse breeding.

                We crossed him several times with our For Pleasure mares. Currently Eurocommerce Callahan (Gerco Schröder/NL) is successful in international show jumping competitions. For more information, please feel free to have a look at our homepage.

                http://www.hof-tobaben.de/en/index.html

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                • #28
                  In case you still haven't found the answer to one of your questions... yes, Contendro is homozygous for the dark coat so he will not produce a chestnut.
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                  • #29
                    First try I had a stallion by Contendro I!

                    I can't recommend Contendro I enough. My first try with him and I breed a stallion, Contratto. My stalllion is out of a big framed 16'3 Lord Calando mare. As a foal he was premium and just completed the 70 day test here with flying colors. He is approved with AHS, RPSI, GOV and SBS. My stallion looks just like his dad, big star, nice gaits, great personality and an amazing jump. His was so easy to train as my husband and I broke him ourselves, trained him for the 70 day test, and stand him. He is exactly what I tried to breed a prettier, refined, quicker version of the mare. Contendro I just moved up in the world breeding rankings/FEI to 13th in showjumping and 10th in Eventing in the world. I would hightly recommend him.

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                    • #30
                      I have a Contendro mare whom I bred in Germany. I subsequently retried in Canada with frozen, but no luck (the mare dam was never successful with frozen).
                      Contessa is a rubber-ball, loves to move, exudes confidence and joy. She passes these qualities to her foals. I have bred her for dressage (5 x Sir Donnerhall, 1 x Romanov) and her foals have had great type, movement and temperament (confident, friendly). Tess is not tall. I agree with all other posters; he does not add height, but produces elastic, correct-moving, athletic foals of great type. She has clean legs, great feet; so do her foals. In addition to having the 2nd highest jumping breed index, Contendro is in the top 5% for dressage. A breeder in our club has used him many times - top foals, talented jumpers (winning young horse classes), Elite Mares, Best Canadian Bred Mare, MPT winner .... His are all from frozen.
                      Yeah, I'm a fan too
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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Mistysmom View Post
                        In case you still haven't found the answer to one of your questions... yes, Contendro is homozygous for the dark coat so he will not produce a chestnut.
                        Not 100% right, he inherits also grey

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                        • #32
                          Originally Posted by Mistysmom
                          In case you still haven't found the answer to one of your questions... yes, Contendro is homozygous for the dark coat so he will not produce a chestnut.
                          Originally posted by why not View Post
                          Not 100% right, he inherits also grey
                          Why Not - why is Mistysmom's response incorrect? She didn't say he wouldn't produce a grey - only that he would not produce a chestnut.

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                            Originally Posted by Mistysmom




                            Why Not - why is Mistysmom's response incorrect? She didn't say he wouldn't produce a grey - only that he would not produce a chestnut.
                            Contendro is homozygous for a dark coat......

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                            • #34
                              Contendro I cannot produce grey because he does not carry grey (if he did, he would be grey ). If, however, Contendro I is bred to a grey mare, it is possible for the MARE to pass on the grey gene. If the mare is homozygous for grey, 100% of her foals will be grey no matter what color the sire is....
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                              • #35
                                I understand a bit of genetics. But the quote that he is homzyguos for a dark coat will be understand by 90% of the viewers that he always inherits dark brown. And that is not the case.

                                btw: we had a grey Corrado mare that gave us with Calato and Contendro two greys and with Cornet Obolensky (grey) and stakkato two brown foals.

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                                • #36
                                  Your grey Corrado mare was heterozygous grey. This means she only carries 1 grey gene and therefore can also produce non-grey - hence the brown foals. Your mare passed on her grey gene to the Contendro foal (foal would have a non-chestnut base coat though). 1 grey gene = grey foal 100% of the time.

                                  If your mare is bred to a heterozygous grey stallion like Cornet Obolensky, she can also have a non-grey foal if neither of them pass on their grey gene.

                                  A homozygous mare or stallion (contains 2 grey genes) can ONLY produce grey no matter what color they are bred to.

                                  Edited to add.... Yes, Contendro is considered homozygous for dark coat. This basically means that he can only produce bay - dark colours (i.e.. no chestnut).
                                  Last edited by Mistysmom; Jan. 16, 2013, 02:14 PM.
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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by why not View Post
                                    I understand a bit of genetics. But the quote that he is homzyguos for a dark coat will be understand by 90% of the viewers that he always inherits dark brown. And that is not the case.
                                    Considering how many posts there have been on this forum about homozygous coat color, I would wager that most of the regular visitors here pretty well understand that “homozygous for dark coats” does not necessarily mean the horse will never produce a grey – only that the horse does not carry a red gene and will therefore never produce a chestnut.

                                    No problem to clarify MM’s post to add that “Contendro can produce a grey if bred to a grey”, but her comment was really not incorrect – he IS homozygous for dark coats and cannot produce a chestnut.

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                                    • #38
                                      I have searched for a good match for my mare and I really think Contendro I would be a perfect sire but... Everybody seems to agree not to breed to a smaller mare.
                                      My mare is 16h and quite refined (out of a 16h3 dam and by a 17h stallion), but I would be more than happy not to produce any bigger than her. Contendro I has everything my mare needs : a strong topline, good loin connection, great pasterns, good temperament.
                                      So do you think height is a deal breaker when everything else is there ?

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                                        #39
                                        Depends if you are ok with a smaller foal? It sounds like he can even reduce the height of the mare so if you are ok with smaller than 16 hh then I would go for it. For me, that is too small. I have a mare I would love to use with him as well but she is 16.1 and tends not to throw tall offspring so I will not do it.

                                        I am going to try the one straw I have left on my Autocrat mare this year. Not really expecting success with just the one straw but you never know. I think he would be a perfect match for her!
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                                        "Simple: Breeding,Training, Riding". Wolfram Wittig.

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                                        • #40
                                          Thanks Donella.
                                          I don't mind a horse being in the 15h3 - 16h1 range as I am only 5f3 and that offspring would be a keeper for myself and my daughter.
                                          Is there any chance that the genetics of my mare (dam and sire being tall) pop out on her progeny ?

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