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I see Sir Gregory also did quite well with GOV...

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  • I see Sir Gregory also did quite well with GOV...

    "Sir Gregory (by Sir Donnerhall x Don Gregory) sired the biggest amount of Oldenburg premium foals in the U.S.A. in 2011. Sixteen of his offspring received the premium title. The chestnut sire is owned by Jennifer and Armin Arnoldt of Dreamscape Farm in Vancouver, Canada, and is in training with Shannon Peters in California, USA."

    Congrats to Jennifer and Dreamscape Farms!!He sure is a lovely stallion.

  • #2
    We have a filly foal by him who we could NOT be happier with!! She's a huge improvement of the mare as well!!

    Congrats Jennifer!!!


    • #3
      I had a 2011 colt by Sir Gregory out of my Ster Idocus x Wanroij mare. Love him, and he's sold and going to Europe! My horses are registered KWPN-NA, and this fellow did not make it to an inspection last year - too far. I'm expecting a full sibling this year.

      Sir Gregory certainly seems to be consistently throwing a very nice type of offspring.
      Martha Haley - NeverSayNever Farm
      2009 KWN-NA Breeder of the Year/Silver Level Breeder


      • #4
        I think it is particularly noteworthy that only 5 of those 16 premium foals were bred by Jennifer & Armin, so he obviously attracted outside mares - and I imagine there was a fair amount of variety in those mares, too.


        • #5
          Originally posted by Dutch View Post
          ...he's sold and going to Europe!
          Oh, big congrats! See, we were just talking on another thread about breeders selling stock back to Europe, and some folks were poo-pooing the idea!


          • #6
            I sold a Rotspon/Londonderry back to Germany four years ago. The Germans are not afraid to pay good money for good foals. It is a bit sad, but my fanciest offspring I find I sometimes need to send back to Germany to be appreciated.

            Just sent a video of a Quaterback/Florencio colt to the trainer I use in Germany. He will come try him once under saddle and then deicide. But the fact he will take two days to come to the farm is HUGE, so that is good enough for me. Most of us breed with imported mares, to imported stallions. It may be a stigma to US buyers to be born in the USA but not to individuals that can look at a pedigree and the horse before them and decide the horse is special no matter where it was born.
            Nancy Holowesko
            Breeders of GOV Horses for Dressage


            • #7
              Nancy how can you complain about this, It won't be until breeders like you start using stallion that are born in North america that the stigma will end.
              I'm really not trying to be snarky.


              • #8
                Originally posted by aquafarms View Post
                Nancy how can you complain about this, It won't be until breeders like you start using stallion that are born in North america that the stigma will end.
                I'm really not trying to be snarky.
                Principle really doesn't pay the bills...

                Like Nancy already said her best foals are not really appreciated here as much as in Europe... I'd harp on the buyer to buy US horses, euro stallion sired or otherwise
                ~~Member of the TB's Rule Clique ~~


                • #9
                  I have bred my Brilliant Ring mare De Lovely ( Dormello/Runinstein) to Sir Gregory for a June 2012 foal. So, yes I do use US stallions that I believe in.

                  I am looking forward to breeding to Solos Lnadtinus this year. The stallion whether US based or not must suit my mares.

                  Also bred one of my favorite mares by Herzzuaber to Las Vegas three years ago. She aborted a filly at nine months, which was a huge shame. Saw Las Vegas in Fl. two months ago and he looked super...though now gelded. So funny how people judge without information.

                  Must add that I would love to breed to Bon Balou and Check Mate. Saw Check mate at the Oldenburg Licensing and love him. Am very willing to support stallion owners like Jennifer and Armin that stand such lovely stallions.. And are willing to bring in frozen like Rock Forever ....that I just must try.....
                  Nancy Holowesko
                  Breeders of GOV Horses for Dressage


                  • #10
                    I'm not judging and both of those stallions were imported. You were talking about foals born in the US and I was speaking of stallions born in North America, and I'd love to see more folks buying North American horses I'm all for that.
                    Some top breeder friends of mine in Germany think we have plenty of good stallions here and mares for that matter.but they don't understand why we keep using frozen seamen.
                    One thing that they see as a problem is that we price all of our foals for close to the same price and they say that most of those foals would sell in Germany for 3-5 thousand Euro and the good one would go for alot more then the North American breeders ask for.


                    • #11
                      I do understand, and agree about prices for warmblood foals in Europe. I follow the foals offered on Kiki's site weekly so do not breed or sell in la la land. I keep horses in Germany and it is way less expensive than at my own farm.

                      But I am sorry, if the stallion in the US does not blow me away, I am not breeding to him. End of story.

                      And believe me it is a double edged sword as I have two young stallions I will present this summer. I know their dams and the dam lines and the stallions in question have qualities I could not find in those frozen.......and that at the end of the day, is our competition. If my stallion is not as good as I can get by frozen from Europe, I will geld him. Why waste my time when frozen is so easy and readily available.
                      Nancy Holowesko
                      Breeders of GOV Horses for Dressage


                      • #12
                        I hope your two young colts are well received by North American Breeders.
                        I've just seen this happen so often, breeder import good stock and produce some excellent colts (foals), then they can't sell them for what there worth so the get them approved only to have the mare owners poo poo them.

                        And congat's to Sir Gregory !!!


                        • #13
                          aqua, I'm not trying to be snarky either -- but please take a close look at Nancy's breeding program before assuming she's doing anything of the sort. Having been to her farm and seen her breeding program up close, I can assure you she would only keep stallion prospects if she felt they could make a real contribution.

                          As for Sir Gregory, I could not be happier with my own Sir Gregory filly, born this past June. I've heard a bit via word of mouth that he adds size and my filly is no exception. She also has a great brain and three awesome gaits:
                          Kendra -- Runningwater Warmbloods
                          Home of EM Raleska (Rascalino/ Warkant) and Donatella M (Furstenball/ Jazz Time)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hansiska View Post
                            As for Sir Gregory, I could not be happier with my own Sir Gregory filly, born this past June. I've heard a bit via word of mouth that he adds size and my filly is no exception.
                            Although he is not a big stallion himself, there is a lot of size in his pedigree, and I am not surprised to hear that he is adding size. Time will tell how tall his foals finish.


                            • #15
                              Sir Gregory colt

                              I have a colt by him out of a 15.2 TB mare. He is bigger then any of the other foals she has had. Jamie is very leggy. I have a filly by him too out of a Dutch Harness Arab mare, interesting breeding yes! They are both super movers and have such nice temperaments. The colt went premium and was placed higher then some foals from imported Warmblood mares. I filmed them playing in the snow recently http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7E_2...4&feature=plcp